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Author:  Franky T [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  12/2: McCowEAN to JefferyS

Quote:
Dan Bernstein ‏@dan_bernstein 18h
Time for people to start trying harder to pronounce a certain receiver's name correctly. Please. #Bears


How many mispronunciations before Danny blows his top? Listen to find out!

Bears lose, Terry called it with an assist from Mike in Milwaukee.

Is Trestman still a REALLY. SMART. FOOTBALL. COACH.?

Author:  redskingreg [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:04 am ]
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I can already hear Terry describe an intern with "He will call in a drone strike to handle your package." To which, I will laugh.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:13 am ]
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Save us B&B from all this Tressman angst.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:17 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
Save us B&B from all this Tressman angst.

When has Dan saved us from angst? He'll probably say it's so terrible that the Bears are bad, because it's not that they're bad, they're just not good, and in the NFL, that's really bad.

Good grief, I sound like I'm doing Klosterman more than Bernstein.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:20 am ]
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when they are at their best they are not angsty. alas, those occasions seem to be happening les and les often.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:29 am ]
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so #dbernstein accidentally directed a twitter post to the public that was intended for larry fuckmeintheass homes?

Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:52 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Good grief, I sound like I'm doing Klosterman more than Bernstein.


Six of one, really.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:58 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
when they are at their best they are not angsty. alas, those occasions seem to be happening les and les often.


I went to Sex Therapy School with Les Often.

Author:  billypootons [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:41 pm ]
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at this point i really only care about my fantasy team since i dont think this team has any real shot at contending for a title.... but still.... kicking that FG on 2nd down was one of the more dumb trestman coaching decisions we've seen.... even more dumb than all of the going for it on 4th down with stupid michael bush runs

the 66 yard attempt had a chance at being historically dumb considering the auburn-alabama game just happened yesterday (and that devin hester made the "return a missed FG" play famous several years ago)... can you imagine if patterson had returned it all the way? The spent the whole game making sure patterson did not return a kick... then you give him a chance to return a kick when you have the wrong personnel on the field to cover kicks

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:59 pm ]
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Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:07 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing

Author:  Kirkwood [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:08 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

Here's Dan explaination:
Quote:
Trestman claimed that concern over a penalty, fumble or other “unique” occurrence informed his decision to not work to move the spot closer, and that they were “in range,” no matter the complex analysis from some of us that they could remain “in range,” and be “even closer to the goalpost,” and “increase the chance that the kick is made,” which would make them “far more likely to win the game.”

That's all one sentence btw.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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Bernstein trolling right out of the gate saying AP is better than Payton and it's not even close.

Image

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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:lol: and Lil Danny comes out trolling . AP is the greatest runner ever. Ummmmm no. The fact that he gashed an historically bad defense yesterday ? Well that seals it for me. Fucking dope.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:11 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing


how many times has a bad snap on a 4th down fg attempt lost the game? dozens of times.

Author:  City of Fools [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:12 pm ]
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so Dan isn't defending Trestman...I'm confused.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:12 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:
Bernstein trolling right out of the gate saying AP is better than Payton and it's not even close.

Image

Didnt the Vikings used to take the great Adrian Petersen out of the game on goal line calls?

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:12 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
:lol: and Lil Danny comes out trolling . AP is the greatest runner ever. Ummmmm no. The fact that he gashed an historically bad defense yesterday ? Well that seals it for me. Fucking dope.


all you need to do is watch a few replays of peyton and sayers and you wont think that. ap is a beast, one of the 5 best ever, but hes not the best.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:14 pm ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing


how many times has a bad snap on a 4th down fg attempt lost the game? dozens of times.

I need Scott in Davenport to run some numbers on that . Per season how many times that has happened and cost a team a victory. Less than you think .

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:15 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing

Its prudent on 3rd down if its a chip shot. Why not give yourself two tries?

Its not worth it to go from a 27 yarder to a 24 yarder

But on second down from 47 mf'n yards is insane

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:16 pm ]
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Peterson is in the discussion with Payton for #2 behind the clear cut number one, Jim Brown

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:19 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Peterson is in the discussion with Payton for #2 behind the clear cut number one, Jim Brown

If I needed a yard against a good defense and the choice is between giving it to Payton and AP ill go with Walter (when he was alive anyway) every time

Author:  SomeGuy [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:28 pm ]
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Caught transition...

Holy fuck! Leery, please stop calling every Bears player by their first name! YOU AREN'T BEST BUDS WITH THEM. No one buys it. Get thay shit the fuck outta here.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:31 pm ]
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No Boers . Billick isn't one of the best analysts. Fucking kiss ass.

Author:  redskingreg [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:36 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing

Its prudent on 3rd down if its a chip shot. Why not give yourself two tries?

Its not worth it to go from a 27 yarder to a 24 yarder

But on second down from 47 mf'n yards is insane


If you miss a field goal on third down, it's not fourth down next. The other teams take possession. Or am I wrong?

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:38 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing

Its prudent on 3rd down if its a chip shot. Why not give yourself two tries?

Its not worth it to go from a 27 yarder to a 24 yarder

But on second down from 47 mf'n yards is insane


If you miss a field goal on third down, it's not fourth down next. The other teams take possession. Or am I wrong?

They're talking about a botched snap not a missed field goal. if you muff the snap you can kick it again as long as you recover it .

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:42 pm ]
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I hope the Bears take Major Rebuilding in the draft.

Author:  Beardown [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:45 pm ]
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When Gould kicked it it was like 2nd and 6, right? I would try to get that 6 yards on 2nd and 3rd down from that position on the field. Get a first down and make the FG under 40. The way Forte was running, he could have busted another 10 yard run and got that thing inside the 20.

But certainly go for it on 2nd. There is no way Trestman should still be defending his position.

Author:  KDdidit [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:51 pm ]
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The third down thing is if there's a bad snap the holder spikes it for an incomplete pass. That's assuming it's a bad snap but not so bad that the holder catches and has the awareness to spike it, which isn't a given.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:51 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Wait a second. Trestman attempted a field goal on SECOND down?!? Who the fuck does that? I know there are situations that call for attempting on third, but second? And it wasn't with one second left on the clock? What the hell?

This thing about kicking on 3rd down is stupid too. How many times have teams kicked on 3rd down where it's actually been a bad snap where doing that "saved " them? I can't recall that happening. Matter of fact it cost Minnesota and the Bears both doing that exact thing

Its prudent on 3rd down if its a chip shot. Why not give yourself two tries?

Its not worth it to go from a 27 yarder to a 24 yarder

But on second down from 47 mf'n yards is insane


If you miss a field goal on third down, it's not fourth down next. The other teams take possession. Or am I wrong?

Fumbled snap, etc, you cover the ball up and try again

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