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Author: | bigfan [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | DAN'S INSIDE INFO |
Just stop man.....you are repeating what the cubs want out there, posing like you have some inside scoop. It just makes you the shill of the team... Oh yeah, but then when you want FREE tickets, you call the same people at each of these teams......that works out well. Not saying Dan abuses the privlegde of free tickets, nor is he not grateful, just lets put all the cards on the table when you provide information to the people and where you get it and the fact you might be getting things back in return at some point. |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:02 pm ] |
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He might have his choice of seating this season. |
Author: | spmack [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:21 pm ] |
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Notice that Dan doesn't bash Crane Kennedy much anymore? |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:22 pm ] |
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spmack wrote: Notice that Dan doesn't bash Crane Kennedy much anymore? Crane Kenney. Crane Kennedy probably died in a plane or skiing or a car accident or was assassinated. |
Author: | spmack [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:29 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: spmack wrote: Notice that Dan doesn't bash Crane Kennedy much anymore? Crane Kenney. Crane Kennedy probably died in a plane or skiing or a car accident or was assassinated. My bad, Crane Kennedy was what Jim Belushi famously called him. |
Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:31 pm ] |
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spmack wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: spmack wrote: Notice that Dan doesn't bash Crane Kennedy much anymore? Crane Kenney. Crane Kennedy probably died in a plane or skiing or a car accident or was assassinated. My bad, Crane Kennedy was what Jim Belushi famously called him. John Belushi. Jim Belushi probably died in a plane or skiing or a car accident or was assassinated. |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:34 pm ] |
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Does Dan realize he's being used as Cubs mouthpiece or does he not care? He looks foolish with every" I talked to my Cubs guy" spiel which totally contradicts the previous "I talked to my Cubs guy" drivel. The last one I heard was "The Cubs are not moving.....the studies have been done. It's not financially smart". |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:35 pm ] |
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City of Fools wrote: Jim Belushi probably died in a plane or skiing or a car accident or was assassinated. America could never get that lucky. |
Author: | bigfan [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:00 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: Does Dan realize he's being used as Cubs mouthpiece or does he not care? He looks foolish with every" I talked to my Cubs guy" spiel which totally contradicts the previous "I talked to my Cubs guy" drivel. The last one I heard was "The Cubs are not moving.....the studies have been done. It's not financially smart". I dont think he sees it that way. As long he doesnt say "I spoke to the Cubs director of communications", sounds much more like a reporter with 'My sources" Then he tells it like we dont know they want to stay at Wrigley. "They still want to resolve this, but they are having serious internal talks about moving" My only question is that when I read that agreement it says once they get city approval to do what they need to do, this agreement means shit. So, is the only reason they are on hold is to appease Rahm with the focus of working out an agreement? Because that clause of that agreement seemed real simple to enforce and just move ahead. If he wants to bring that answer to the table, then he can start talking about his source |
Author: | Bucky Chris [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:07 pm ] |
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Dan knows exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it. I think to suggest he doesn't would be silly. It's probably in his best interest to do it, too. |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:15 pm ] |
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Bucky Chris wrote: Dan knows exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it. I think to suggest he doesn't would be silly. It's probably in his best interest to do it, too. Free tickets ? |
Author: | BD [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:14 pm ] |
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bigfan wrote: Just stop man.....you are repeating what the cubs want out there, posing like you have some inside scoop. It just makes you the shill of the team... Oh yeah, but then when you want FREE tickets, you call the same people at each of these teams......that works out well. Not saying Dan abuses the privlegde of free tickets, nor is he not grateful, just lets put all the cards on the table when you provide information to the people and where you get it and the fact you might be getting things back in return at some point. When the Cubs rooftop battle heated up a few weeks ago, he actually said on the radio that he needed to check with his Cubs source to determine the legitimacy of some of the newest developments (whatever they were at the time). His source, if he has one and not some gossip or blog that he packages into a story, is completely one sided and offers nothing but the Cubs perspective. |
Author: | donspiracy [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:20 pm ] |
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Dan is bs-ing!! There is NO consequence to him lying or being an outlet for what the cubs want him to say. |
Author: | bigfan [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:30 pm ] |
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BD wrote: bigfan wrote: Just stop man.....you are repeating what the cubs want out there, posing like you have some inside scoop. It just makes you the shill of the team... Oh yeah, but then when you want FREE tickets, you call the same people at each of these teams......that works out well. Not saying Dan abuses the privlegde of free tickets, nor is he not grateful, just lets put all the cards on the table when you provide information to the people and where you get it and the fact you might be getting things back in return at some point. When the Cubs rooftop battle heated up a few weeks ago, he actually said on the radio that he needed to check with his Cubs source to determine the legitimacy of some of the newest developments (whatever they were at the time). His source, if he has one and not some gossip or blog that he packages into a story, is completely one sided and offers nothing but the Cubs perspective. here is his source------> Director, Media Relations Peter Chase and his source at the bears is Scott Hagel and his source at the Bulls is Tim Hallam....these guys have the job of communicating with the media.... They tell Dan exactly what they want him to say on the air and he says it. My issue is that he talks about it like he is getting unfiltered info. All this doesnt make the cubs wrong, or the info wrong. |
Author: | pittmike [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:34 pm ] |
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He makes his stuff mysterious and so on just to keep the average listener in the repeat customer biz. |
Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:56 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: Bucky Chris wrote: Dan knows exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it. I think to suggest he doesn't would be silly. It's probably in his best interest to do it, too. Free tickets ? MONETIZE. EVERYTHING. |
Author: | bigfan [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:57 pm ] |
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pittmike wrote: He makes his stuff mysterious and so on just to keep the average listener in the repeat customer biz. No, it just sounds lame when he says I called the communications guy......and he told me.... He makes it sound like he has a'Wikileak" guy on the inside....that sits in the meetings, then calls Dan.... Additionally, nothing dan even says after he talks to 'His source" is anything that is beyond the obvious. The cubs want to work it out, a few rooftop owners are still a problem and the leader of the group is the biggest problem..Mrs Murphy....he could have called me for that! if i was the Cubs I would make two new entrances and exists to the Bleachers away from her place just to piss her off further. |
Author: | Franky T [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:00 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: Does Dan realize he's being used as Cubs mouthpiece or does he not care? He looks foolish with every" I talked to my Cubs guy" spiel which totally contradicts the previous "I talked to my Cubs guy" drivel. The last one I heard was "The Cubs are not moving.....the studies have been done. It's not financially smart". I remember this. It was during tranny a couple weeks ago when Mac was saying how sick he was of the story and saying 'just move already'. Danny was quick to say what you quoted, as if he had inside info. Now that's changed? What's changed is the message the Cubs want their shills to get out there. |
Author: | Baby McNown [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:02 pm ] |
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I was really glad my truck was stopped today when Berns said that the Cubs "needed Crane Kenny". I would have driven off the road. |
Author: | bigfan [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:04 pm ] |
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Baby McNown wrote: I was really glad my truck was stopped today when Berns said that the Cubs "needed Crane Kenny". I would have driven off the road. They NEEDED Him on day 1 to show everyone where the files where and how to jiggle the lock on the bathroom door, but Ricketts needs to rid himself of this guy at this point . |
Author: | pittmike [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:07 pm ] |
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bigfan wrote: pittmike wrote: He makes his stuff mysterious and so on just to keep the average listener in the repeat customer biz. No, it just sounds lame when he says I called the communications guy......and he told me.... He makes it sound like he has a'Wikileak" guy on the inside....that sits in the meetings, then calls Dan.... Additionally, nothing dan even says after he talks to 'His source" is anything that is beyond the obvious. The cubs want to work it out, a few rooftop owners are still a problem and the leader of the group is the biggest problem..Mrs Murphy....he could have called me for that! if i was the Cubs I would make two new entrances and exists to the Bleachers away from her place just to piss her off further. Thats why I said he does it to be mysterious to average listener. Not us smart guys here. |
Author: | Beardown [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:23 pm ] |
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Baby McNown wrote: I was really glad my truck was stopped today when Berns said that the Cubs "needed Crane Kenny". I would have driven off the road. He said that? Somebody at the Cubs must have gotten to him. Just a year ago, Bernstein ridiculed this Kenny. Called him pointless. Called him stupid. Ripped him for walking around the office in a Cubs uniform. Ripped him for bringing a priest to sprinkle holy water over the Cubs dugout before a playoff series. Said his existence hurts the Cubs. Said that Ricketts needs to launch him. Boers was on Dan's shoulder echoing everything Dan said if you guys remember. Now Dan Bernstein is off that stance? Like I said, somebody at the Cubs got to him. Maybe it's for more than free tickets. You'd think Dan would at least explain why he's off his initial position on Kenny. But that's the way he works. Just do a 180 and act like you never bashed Kenny at all. |
Author: | No Clever Moniker [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:06 pm ] |
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Right offices, wrong people Bigfan. It's not good for the communications director to actually speak to someone like Bernstine, better that it be an underling who's speaking with approval. The message is the same but it gives the organization the needed deniability should the winds change or sand shift beneath their feet. Dan isn't a reporter and never has been, as a sports shock jock he doesn't have to maintain any credibility. Which is why he is perfectly content and willing to keep his "sources" secret because a real journalist would get someone to actually speak on the record. His transformation into a true shill means getting some comped tickets and indirectly maybe some work for the wife (or the opportunity for the wife to entertain a potential client). The owner of the Cubs is in no hurry to put a winner on the field and has no desire to increase his debt, so the team is staying at Wrigley where expectations are minimal and manageable. Bernstine is the perfect media foil (infomercial grade) because he isn't a part of the Cubs but delivers the messages(s) as desired. He doesn't have to be right because he isn't paid to be right, and more importantly he doesn't care. |
Author: | pittmike [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:22 pm ] |
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We all noticed last week how the Hawks do everything perfect. They are the perfect image of the fan experience. That is if you get some tix take your son and a friend(s) to game and they are allowed to hang outside locker room after and talk technique with Annti Raanta. |
Author: | BD [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:55 pm ] |
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Has anyone asked Bernstein why he seems to base his opinion of the Cubs vs. Rooftop owners on the 'inside information' from his sources? If he wants to present himself as this reporter getting relevent inside information, why only present one side, and go out of his way to attack the other side? I may be answering my own question, but I'm assuming he would tell anyone who challenges him after he shouts them down, finds one point and focuses on that, and/or tells the caller it's his show, and his opinion, and to not listen....but I was wondering if anyone had actually asked him about his angle on this. |
Author: | pittmike [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:32 pm ] |
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Just think Joe Girardi. |
Author: | bigfan [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:38 pm ] |
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No Clever Moniker wrote: Right offices, wrong people Bigfan. It's not good for the communications director to actually speak to someone like Bernstine, better that it be an underling who's speaking with approval. The message is the same but it gives the organization the needed deniability should the winds change or sand shift beneath their feet. Dan isn't a reporter and never has been, as a sports shock jock he doesn't have to maintain any credibility. Which is why he is perfectly content and willing to keep his "sources" secret because a real journalist would get someone to actually speak on the record. His transformation into a true shill means getting some comped tickets and indirectly maybe some work for the wife (or the opportunity for the wife to entertain a potential client). The owner of the Cubs is in no hurry to put a winner on the field and has no desire to increase his debt, so the team is staying at Wrigley where expectations are minimal and manageable. Bernstine is the perfect media foil (infomercial grade) because he isn't a part of the Cubs but delivers the messages(s) as desired. He doesn't have to be right because he isn't paid to be right, and more importantly he doesn't care. Nope, its the right person. dan was a roaming reporter for a while and I am sure he knows peter chase....I guess you forgot there was a time when Dan often ripped on the person who was in charge before peter and who dan ripped on publicly and she was let go, making Peter the director. Sharon Van Bitchyface. dan has another source at the Cubs for other player, in season stuff, but he's not a rooftop guy. Old school score guys know who he is. And yes, the Hawks are the nicest group and they do stuff like this right, they also just dont call Dan and ask if he wants tickets, but everyone there is instructed to take care of people in this town that can do the organization any good. I will admit, I benefit from the same treatment at the Hawks. They wont even let people pay when they really want to in those circumstances. 4-6 seats on the ice for a game? $3000? thats REALLy nice though....I didnt get that I had the privledge of going to meet certain players in my life and as a kid, its the coolest thing ever, Artis, Colby, Orlando, Kingman, Reggie (I got his dog), McMahon....any chance you get for you kid to have that memory, take it. |
Author: | pittmike [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:47 pm ] |
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Jorr thinks you should eschew that advantage for your kids as unfair. |
Author: | bigfan [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:54 pm ] |
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It can be terrible. I always appreciated every chance like that someone gave me and I never would have ever expected it. One of my friends, his kids are such shitheads, that you cant go to a game with them, unless they each get at least 2 baseballs and a few autographs or the crying starts. Went to a Northwestern/Ohio State hoops game. They tossed the mini balls into the crowd, each kid got 2. Players stayed on court after game to sign them and take pics. Coach Fitz was there, he stops, grabs my nephew, one other kid we brought and my buddys 2 kids....to take a pic at center court. We take the pic, we are walking out and this one kid is crying his eyes out? I am totally confused...these kids just got autographs and pics with coaches and player (They dont know its NU) a 7 footer is a 7 footer.....but I am stumped as to why this one kid is crying. Finally, after he cries all the way to the car, dragging his feet like someone just shot his dog, I ask again "WHAT IS SO BAD????' and he screams "I WANTED A PICTURE WITH THE HEAD COACH ALONE!!!!!!!!" |
Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:49 pm ] |
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bigfan wrote: Finally, after he cries all the way to the car, dragging his feet like someone just shot his dog, I ask again "WHAT IS SO BAD????' and he screams "I WANTED A PICTURE WITH THE HEAD COACH ALONE!!!!!!!!" Wow, time to knock some sense into your friend, though it may be too late! |
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