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Author:  CharlieFurbush [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:29 am ]
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On today’s show, the guys will discuss a little spring baseball, and one of the few issues Terry has ever disagreed with Dan about: when the Cubs young prospects should be brought to Chicago. Terry says they need to start bringing these guys up.

Dan says no, Theo and Jed are not your bitch, and you don’t deserve to be excited about Cubs baseball until they say so.

Dan will talk about this v e r y s l o w to make sure you really understand him.

They will also talk about gay people, athletes’ butts, and if we’re really lucky, gay athletes’ butts.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:20 pm ]
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Nope, sorry charlie that show is on hold til tomorrow



Bernstein: Russia’s Hockey Failure Is Delicious
February 19, 2014 10:51 AM
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By Dan Bernstein-
CBSChicago.com senior columnist
(CBS) That was the gold medal game, and we won.
It doesn’t matter who actually finishes where, now, or which anthem gets played at the end — the Americans’, the Canadians’, whatever. I’m not waving any flags. Going into these Olympics, all I wanted was for the Russian men’s hockey team to lose and for their despotic, bigoted president to be internationally embarrassed.
Kiitos, Suomi. Onnittelu.
Vladimir Putin himself made it clear that this would be his nationalistic showcase, the event of the events, with the former KGB lieutenant colonel expressing in certain terms that the team was a direct representation of the interests of the Kremlin and the country. This was to be a symbolic reaffirmation of Russian power, on home ice.
He has wielded his own influence in the unprecedented expenditure on these Sochi games amid allegations of deep and widespread corruption and the deaths of construction workers, and in oppressive policies discriminating against the LGBT community. Putin, always one to butch himself up by waving guns and riding horses, hitched himself to hockey for his man’s-man moment of rough toughness.
And the Finns just gelded him.
The style of Finland’s 3-1 quarterfinal win on Wednesday was particularly satisfying, too. Even after Ilya Kovalchuk scored eight minutes in, Finland continued to play its intelligent, opportunistic game, countering superior overall skill. Juhamatti Aaltonen scored, then captain Teemu Salanne did. Then it was Mikael Granlund with a power-play goal, and the nervous silence in the Bolshoy Ice Dome. Over the final 35 minutes, Finland’s deliberate neutral-zone traps, dedicated shotblocking by defensemen and Tuukka Rask’s precise positional goaltending slowly squeezed the life out of a team carrying an immense political burden.
Semyon Varlamov surrendered all three goals, and he was pulled midway through the second period, adding some butter-cream frosting atop this delectable cake of schadenfreude. Varlamov is the guy accused of stomping on his girlfriend’s chest, dragging her around by her hair and telling her he’d beat her worse if they were back home in Russia instead of in Denver. Prosecutors dropped charges after weighing evidence but insisted that they believed the victim’s claims. So have a nice day, dude.
Pavel Datsyuk also has a problem with gay people, it seems. Any distress for him is fine, also.
Others are reveling in this result, enjoying the emblematic defeat. Patrick Burke is the president of the You Can Play Project, which has organized and educated sports across amateur and professional levels to eagerly accept gay athletes. His tweets included:

I haven’t had any rooting interest in any of this outside of this team in this event, only wanting the Russians to come up with something other than the gold medal sought by a bad guy. Even a loss in the championship game would have sufficed.
But this is even better, with catcalls rained down on them by home fans with enough energy to muster up such disdain, and the rest of them ashen-faced and sullen. No medal, no shot at one and no chance to fly a proud banner of old prejudice.
Do Svidaniya, Vlad.
Nothing like starting a day with a rainbow.

Author:  hnd [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:41 pm ]
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he only wants russia to lose because...gay people. seriously is he a teenager?

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:45 pm ]
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hnd wrote:
he only wants russia to lose because...gay people.


MONETIZE. RUSSIAN. GAYS.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:12 pm ]
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Hockey parents messageboard ... ye gods ......

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:12 pm ]
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Bernsie starting off transition by saying how GLORIOUS it is that Russia lost, and it sounds completely phony. And now we get tales of reaction time goalie drills he was doing with his son last night.

I didn't hate what I heard from Quigley and Griffith yesterday. Will check them out until Teinowitz fouls the airwaves.

Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:14 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:
Bernsie starting off transition by saying how GLORIOUS it is that Russia lost, and it sounds completely phony. And now we get tales of reaction time goalie drills he was doing with his son last night.

I didn't hate what I heard from Quigley and Griffith yesterday. Will check them out until Teinowitz fouls the airwaves.


I'm sad that W&S got rid of the commercial-free 2 o'clock hour.

Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:14 pm ]
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Say it, Dan. Say it. You know you want to.

People on Twitter.

Author:  Dallas Winston [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:18 pm ]
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Here they go with the bumslayer shit! :roll:

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:19 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote:
Say it, Dan. Say it. You know you want to.

People on Twitter.


He doesn't care what anyone posting comments on the CBS site thinks, but what people on Twitter think is of vital importance. :lol:

Author:  Kirkwood [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:21 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Nope, sorry charlie that show is on hold til tomorrow



Bernstein: Russia’s Hockey Failure Is Delicious
February 19, 2014 10:51 AM
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By Dan Bernstein-
CBSChicago.com senior columnist
(CBS) That was the gold medal game, and we won.
It doesn’t matter who actually finishes where, now, or which anthem gets played at the end — the Americans’, the Canadians’, whatever. I’m not waving any flags. Going into these Olympics, all I wanted was for the Russian men’s hockey team to lose and for their despotic, bigoted president to be internationally embarrassed.
Kiitos, Suomi. Onnittelu.
Vladimir Putin himself made it clear that this would be his nationalistic showcase, the event of the events, with the former KGB lieutenant colonel expressing in certain terms that the team was a direct representation of the interests of the Kremlin and the country. This was to be a symbolic reaffirmation of Russian power, on home ice.
He has wielded his own influence in the unprecedented expenditure on these Sochi games amid allegations of deep and widespread corruption and the deaths of construction workers, and in oppressive policies discriminating against the LGBT community. Putin, always one to butch himself up by waving guns and riding horses, hitched himself to hockey for his man’s-man moment of rough toughness.
And the Finns just gelded him.
The style of Finland’s 3-1 quarterfinal win on Wednesday was particularly satisfying, too. Even after Ilya Kovalchuk scored eight minutes in, Finland continued to play its intelligent, opportunistic game, countering superior overall skill. Juhamatti Aaltonen scored, then captain Teemu Salanne did. Then it was Mikael Granlund with a power-play goal, and the nervous silence in the Bolshoy Ice Dome. Over the final 35 minutes, Finland’s deliberate neutral-zone traps, dedicated shotblocking by defensemen and Tuukka Rask’s precise positional goaltending slowly squeezed the life out of a team carrying an immense political burden.
Semyon Varlamov surrendered all three goals, and he was pulled midway through the second period, adding some butter-cream frosting atop this delectable cake of schadenfreude. Varlamov is the guy accused of stomping on his girlfriend’s chest, dragging her around by her hair and telling her he’d beat her worse if they were back home in Russia instead of in Denver. Prosecutors dropped charges after weighing evidence but insisted that they believed the victim’s claims. So have a nice day, dude.
Pavel Datsyuk also has a problem with gay people, it seems. Any distress for him is fine, also.
Others are reveling in this result, enjoying the emblematic defeat. Patrick Burke is the president of the You Can Play Project, which has organized and educated sports across amateur and professional levels to eagerly accept gay athletes. His tweets included:

I haven’t had any rooting interest in any of this outside of this team in this event, only wanting the Russians to come up with something other than the gold medal sought by a bad guy. Even a loss in the championship game would have sufficed.
But this is even better, with catcalls rained down on them by home fans with enough energy to muster up such disdain, and the rest of them ashen-faced and sullen. No medal, no shot at one and no chance to fly a proud banner of old prejudice.
Do Svidaniya, Vlad.
Nothing like starting a day with a rainbow.

Isn't this pretty much the same as Michigan State saving Detroit and the Saints saving New Orleans. It's just the opposite in that the hockey team losing ruined Russia? Fucking guy :lol:

Author:  guwop [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:33 pm ]
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Why are they all such giggling bitches when ranger is updating?

Author:  $5000 Suit [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:35 pm ]
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Russia losing is not going to be of any benefit to gay people. In fact the loss will probably make it worse for them as people look for someone to blame. Bernstein has single handly made it it worse for them. He.should.be.brought.up.before.a.tri.-bu.-nal.on.war.crimes.charges.

Author:  billypootons [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:36 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Nope, sorry charlie that show is on hold til tomorrow



Bernstein: Russia’s Hockey Failure Is Delicious
February 19, 2014 10:51 AM
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By Dan Bernstein-
CBSChicago.com senior columnist
(CBS) That was the gold medal game, and we won.
It doesn’t matter who actually finishes where, now, or which anthem gets played at the end — the Americans’, the Canadians’, whatever. I’m not waving any flags. Going into these Olympics, all I wanted was for the Russian men’s hockey team to lose and for their despotic, bigoted president to be internationally embarrassed.
Kiitos, Suomi. Onnittelu.
Vladimir Putin himself made it clear that this would be his nationalistic showcase, the event of the events, with the former KGB lieutenant colonel expressing in certain terms that the team was a direct representation of the interests of the Kremlin and the country. This was to be a symbolic reaffirmation of Russian power, on home ice.
He has wielded his own influence in the unprecedented expenditure on these Sochi games amid allegations of deep and widespread corruption and the deaths of construction workers, and in oppressive policies discriminating against the LGBT community. Putin, always one to butch himself up by waving guns and riding horses, hitched himself to hockey for his man’s-man moment of rough toughness.
And the Finns just gelded him.
The style of Finland’s 3-1 quarterfinal win on Wednesday was particularly satisfying, too. Even after Ilya Kovalchuk scored eight minutes in, Finland continued to play its intelligent, opportunistic game, countering superior overall skill. Juhamatti Aaltonen scored, then captain Teemu Salanne did. Then it was Mikael Granlund with a power-play goal, and the nervous silence in the Bolshoy Ice Dome. Over the final 35 minutes, Finland’s deliberate neutral-zone traps, dedicated shotblocking by defensemen and Tuukka Rask’s precise positional goaltending slowly squeezed the life out of a team carrying an immense political burden.
Semyon Varlamov surrendered all three goals, and he was pulled midway through the second period, adding some butter-cream frosting atop this delectable cake of schadenfreude. Varlamov is the guy accused of stomping on his girlfriend’s chest, dragging her around by her hair and telling her he’d beat her worse if they were back home in Russia instead of in Denver. Prosecutors dropped charges after weighing evidence but insisted that they believed the victim’s claims. So have a nice day, dude.
Pavel Datsyuk also has a problem with gay people, it seems. Any distress for him is fine, also.
Others are reveling in this result, enjoying the emblematic defeat. Patrick Burke is the president of the You Can Play Project, which has organized and educated sports across amateur and professional levels to eagerly accept gay athletes. His tweets included:

I haven’t had any rooting interest in any of this outside of this team in this event, only wanting the Russians to come up with something other than the gold medal sought by a bad guy. Even a loss in the championship game would have sufficed.
But this is even better, with catcalls rained down on them by home fans with enough energy to muster up such disdain, and the rest of them ashen-faced and sullen. No medal, no shot at one and no chance to fly a proud banner of old prejudice.
Do Svidaniya, Vlad.
Nothing like starting a day with a rainbow.

Isn't this pretty much the same as Michigan State saving Detroit and the Saints saving New Orleans. It's just the opposite in that the hockey team losing ruined Russia? Fucking guy :lol:



LOL, someone needs to call this in to WYC this week... is it not the esscence as terry would say?

Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:41 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
Say it, Dan. Say it. You know you want to.

People on Twitter.


He doesn't care what anyone posting comments on the CBS site thinks, but what people on Twitter think is of vital importance. :lol:


But of course! That's his go to straw man.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:43 pm ]
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$5000 Suit wrote:
Russia losing is not going to be of any benefit to gay people. In fact the loss will probably make it worse for them as people look for someone to blame. Bernstein has single handly made it it worse for them. He.should.be.brought.up.before.a.tri.-bu.-nal.on.war.crimes.charges.

That's true. He's a war criminal.

Author:  Swingandalongonetoright [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:51 pm ]
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I really miss CTE and Paterno talk.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:29 pm ]
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Quote:
Pavel Datsyuk also has a problem with gay people, it seems. Any distress for him is fine, also.

Is this on the record somewhere, or did Dan just decide he does because he plays for Russia?

You'd never guess Datsyuk would be a homophobe. I mean, have you seen the guy's head? It's shaped just like an upside-down triangle.

Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:46 pm ]
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http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hoc ... ays-it-all

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Author:  Zizou [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:50 pm ]
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Nothing like starting a day with a rainbow?

I'll take Gay Reference Word Vomit for $1000, Alex.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:51 pm ]
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uninspired:

1. lacking in imagination or originality.

2. (of a person) not filled with excitement.

I think what he ended up putting out still fits the definition.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:56 pm ]
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Oh God Lil Danny is about to read an article from BP about scouting tools. My head is going to explode in t minus 3....2....1......

Author:  Reared on the Score [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:05 pm ]
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oh no, the Bernstein and Deadspin divorce continues http://deadspin.com/here-is-an-article- ... 1526119424

"half-assed public relations musings" is some of the important radio we need, and should not be mocked.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:08 pm ]
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Quote:
The style of Finland’s 3-1 quarterfinal win on Wednesday was particularly satisfying, too. Even after Ilya Kovalchuk scored eight minutes in, Finland continued to play its intelligent, opportunistic game, countering superior overall skill. Juhamatti Aaltonen scored, then captain Teemu Salanne did. Then it was Mikael Granlund with a power-play goal, and the nervous silence in the Bolshoy Ice Dome. Over the final 35 minutes, Finland’s deliberate neutral-zone traps, dedicated shotblocking by defensemen and Tuukka Rask’s precise positional goaltending slowly squeezed the life out of a team carrying an immense political burden.


"This is an intelligent and opportunistic game."
"They gotta watch out for Juhamatti Aaltonen."
"Mikael Granlund, with whom I am familiar as a rising star for Minnesota, could be dangerous on their power-play unit."
"This is some of the most precise positional goaltending I've seen in a while!"
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The best part is that Dan is rooting for a team running the fucking NEUTRAL ZONE TRAP, an approach to the game that did so much damage to the NHL that there are practically Geneva Conventions against it.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:16 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Quote:
The style of Finland’s 3-1 quarterfinal win on Wednesday was particularly satisfying, too. Even after Ilya Kovalchuk scored eight minutes in, Finland continued to play its intelligent, opportunistic game, countering superior overall skill. Juhamatti Aaltonen scored, then captain Teemu Salanne did. Then it was Mikael Granlund with a power-play goal, and the nervous silence in the Bolshoy Ice Dome. Over the final 35 minutes, Finland’s deliberate neutral-zone traps, dedicated shotblocking by defensemen and Tuukka Rask’s precise positional goaltending slowly squeezed the life out of a team carrying an immense political burden.


"This is an intelligent and opportunistic game."
"They gotta watch out for Juhamatti Aaltonen."
"Mikael Granlund, with whom I am familiar as a rising star for Minnesota, could be dangerous on their power-play unit."
"This is some of the most precise positional goaltending I've seen in a while!"
Image


:lol: :lol:

:salut:

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:22 pm ]
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Quote:
Over the final 35 minutes, Finland’s deliberate neutral-zone traps, dedicated shotblocking by defensemen and Tuukka Rask’s precise positional goaltending slowly squeezed the life out of a team carrying an immense political burden.

Let's rewrite this sentence from the perspective of someone who isn't rooting for THE HEALING POWER OF SPORTS to intervene on behalf of mistreated gay people.

Quote:
The Finns sat on a lead and played not to lose for more than half the game. Then when the play was in their end, they went into a defensive shell and blocked all the shooting lanes. This allowed the goalie to face mostly low-percentage shots and stop what few shots didn't hit guys wearing lots of body armor. Then time ran out and they won. Russia doesn't like homosexuals.

Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:52 pm ]
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Ahh, yes. There it is. The most hated/loved players' list is racist. :lol:

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:27 pm ]
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Please enjoy this from Julia Ioffe, a favorite of mine for having a rare perspective on Russia, writing very well, and being quite pretty. More interesting perspective on Russia and hockey than Dan's:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1165 ... ponse-self

Quote:
Psychological issue #2: Stockholm Syndrome. I can't tell you how many Olympic newscasts on state-owned Channel One have begun with a rundown of what the Western press thinks about Russia. What did the Western press think about the opening ceremony? What nice things did the Western press say about the Sochi Olympics facilities? About our stupendous athletes?

I'm sorry, are you not a resurgent superpower, the country of Gagarin and Dostoyevsky? Why do you care about what the corrupt West thinks about you if you are? But the Russians care. Oh, they care so much. Moscow's biggest radio station has a show that airs on weekend evenings called "Cover Story," an entire hour dedicated to what the Western press writes about Russia. Russia's state-owned news agency RIA Novosti has an entire outlet dedicated to translating Western coverage of Russia. It's not the only such outlet here. Russia Today famously obsesses over how Russia is covered in the West. (In fact, my recent story about Western journalists swarming the one gay club in Sochi merited a mention on RT as proof that Western journalists are just nefarious and unprofessional shills, trying to make Russia look bad. Which, needless to say, was not the point of my story.)

The Russians, however, are shocked to discover that Russia no longer occupies a similar amount of disk space in the American imagination. Which only fuels the curiosity about what we're saying.

Before you say that the Russians are commendably more aware of the world around them than the ocean-sheltered, solipsistic Americans—they're not. It's not the world that they're curious about. They're curious about what the world is saying about them.

Psychological issue #3: inferiority complex. Also, note that I've been saying "Western" rather than "international" press. The Russians couldn't care less what the Indian or Chinese papers are writing. Russia's centuries-old internal debate about whether it is East or West today manifests itself as a militant insistence on its European-ness. This or that building is "European." This or that import is luxe and coveted because it's "European." I once saw Vladimir Putin at an investor conference launch into a long tirade about how very European Russia is—exactly the kind of ranting you'd never hear in, say, France. This is in part why Russia has a hard time dealing with the Chinese or the Japanese: it sees them as Asian and therefore somehow inferior, as less prestigious international partners than those tiny countries to the West.

Which are at the same time infecting it with their perverted social norms like homosexuality. (Psychological issue #4: schizophrenia.)

Psychological issue #5: not understanding consequences. Russia has taken a strong position on the world stage. It has done some pretty controversial things: It has banned adoptions of Russian orphans by Americans, it has passed anti-gay legislation, it has imprisoned three stupid young women for dancing in a church, it has given refuge to Edward Snowden, yet expects the Americans to send Barack Obama to the opening of the Olympics and expects the world to speak admiringly of its historical grandeur and its might. Under Vladimir Putin, Russia has decided to be feared but it also wants badly to be loved, and it can't understand why, while it is walking around kicking shit and giving everyone the finger, the world isn't showering it with kisses.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:54 pm ]
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Ugh. Bernstein breaking down hockey strategy.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:58 pm ]
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Like I was saying, he mostly did a good job, except that

1) while the lack of fighting and scrumming is better, the wider rink isn't

2) "Carey Price? Is he any good?" Yes. He's very good. I know he plays in another conference and another country with another language, but he's very good.

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