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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Bernstein: Go Big, Bulls June 17, 2014 9:31 AM (CBS) With all due respect to Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love, they’re small potatoes. Both are All-Star-caliber players who would immediately alter the Bulls’ title trajectory, if not guarantee real contention. Anthony is the preternatural, instinctive scorer who at 30 wants to begin his career’s third act with new options, and Love the younger power forward with deep shooting range and rebounding skill who is pouting his way into a trade out of Minnesota. Either would now be a fall-back option, worth the effort and money only after exhausting all possibilities to lure LeBron James to the Bulls. Savvy businessmen understand that periods of market volatility are opportunities for skillful strikes, environments that favor the swiftest and smartest. This is just such a time. As James makes cryptic, guarded comments about his future, huddling with the handful of close advisors he refers to as his “team” as he mulls whether to exercise his contractual right to immediate free agency, there must be back-channel outreach to make clear intentions to pursue him. Chances — even very slim ones — to acquire greatest-ever players in their prime almost never occur, and to not attempt to take full advantage would be small-minded and irresponsible. While taking great pains to adhere to the letter of the law regarding tampering, the message must be communicated now to James’s camp that Chicago would be an ideal landing spot for someone wanting to win. Some certainties can be offered: Derrick Rose will be recovered from his latest knee injury and on the team, the franchise’s brand has a solid global footprint and the top-three market size is sufficient for James’s corporate partnership interests, as is the size of the fanbase in evidence from attendance and television viewership data. Everything else is in question and open to negotiation. Salary cap clearance for an outright signing or pieces exchanged in a sign-and-trade scenario mean the personnel situation is fluid, and input would be required from him to determine the most favorable, competitive arrangement of components. James would be offered some responsibility in engineering the roster, within the byzantine league restrictions. It’s possible that coach Tom Thibodeau is a drawing card, having established himself as an expert defensive tactician with the ability to maximize peripheral players. James could warm to the idea of working closely with someone who so clearly shares his focus on film work and opponent-specific game-planning. It could also be the case, however, that James is aware of both his own heavy load of minutes at age 29 and Thibodeau’s relentless expenditure of top players in relatively insignificant regular-season games. He may also see him as a limited offensive mind, in a time that rewards creativity on that end of the floor. If James has any reservations about an alliance with Thibodeau that can’t be allayed with guarantees, John Paxson and Gar Forman must make the tough call and bring in his preferred coach. That would be drastic — but necessary and correct if it meant landing the game’s most powerful individual force. Coaching matters indeed, but any assumed difference from replacement level at that position isn’t enough to stand in the way of something that instantly alters the balance of the NBA and guarantees multiple title shots. There is no time for dawdling or dreaming or worrying about alternative scenarios. All else can wait, as the message is sent in the shadows from a proud franchise with a case full of trophies to a megastar at a crossroads: Mountains can and will be moved for him. The Bulls must be actively seeking an answer from LeBron James to the only question at the moment: “What will it take?” |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
How. Does. This. Get. The. Bulls. Closer. To. A. Championship. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Sigh.....I'd just be happy to have a healthy D Rose back. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
just don't trade Jimmy Butler |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
This wont happen, but I'd love to see the converted LeBron fans on this board if it did. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
The "Get Lebron James" strategy is a bold one. Not sure I buy into the idea yet though. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Krazy Ivan wrote: This wont happen, but I'd love to see the converted LeBron fans on this board if it did. Ive straddled that fence for a while I appreciate greatness and mock his douchetastic nature |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Will never happen. They will be lucky to get Melo or Love. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
RFDC wrote: Will never happen. They will be lucky to get Melo or Love. If Lebron called Jerry and said he wanted to come here, Jerry would do everything in his power to get him here. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: This wont happen, but I'd love to see the converted LeBron fans on this board if it did. Ive straddled that fence for a while I appreciate greatness and mock his douchetastic nature But if LeBron came here and they won a title, you'd be hard pressed to find a Bulls fan that would say a word about what a douche he is... |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Krazy Ivan wrote: But if LeBron came here and they won a title, you'd be hard pressed to find a Bulls fan that would say a word about what a douche he is... I promise I will.
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Douchebag wrote: RFDC wrote: Will never happen. They will be lucky to get Melo or Love. If Lebron called Jerry and said he wanted to come here, Jerry would do everything in his power to get him here. I agree completely. Just don't see Lebron doing that. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Krazy Ivan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: This wont happen, but I'd love to see the converted LeBron fans on this board if it did. Ive straddled that fence for a while I appreciate greatness and mock his douchetastic nature But if LeBron came here and they won a title, you'd be hard pressed to find a Bulls fan that would say a word about what a douche he is... I disagree. I think plenty would still consider him a douche, but he would be an acceptable douche since he would be playing for our team. I am more of a fan of the Bulls than a hater of Lebron. I thought Rodman was a grade A douche before he came to the Bulls. Then I was glad he was our douche, but he was still a douche. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Is there any reason to actually read that, or can I guess as to the genius that lies within? As far as the "converted fans" thing goes, it's old hat ... Dennis Rodman ... end of subject. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Don Tiny wrote: Is there any reason to actually read that, or can I guess as to the genius that lies within? As far as the "converted fans" thing goes, it's old hat ... Dennis Rodman ... end of subject. The only news in the article is Dan believes LeBron is more valuable than Thibs |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: But if LeBron came here and they won a title, you'd be hard pressed to find a Bulls fan that would say a word about what a douche he is... I promise I will.I will too. I said on here in 2010 I didn't want him on the Bulls and nothing has changed that. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Krazy Ivan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: This wont happen, but I'd love to see the converted LeBron fans on this board if it did. Ive straddled that fence for a while I appreciate greatness and mock his douchetastic nature But if LeBron came here and they won a title, you'd be hard pressed to find a Bulls fan that would say a word about what a douche he is... You've never heard anybody in Chicago say bad things about Jordan? |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Good thing I don't care enough about the Bulls to cheer for Lebron. Ivan should appreciate rooting against a hometown team for dumb reasons. |
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| Author: | Councilman Les Whinen [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
I don't see Lebron coming to Chicago. There are plenty of other options where he'd have as much chance of winning a title as he would in Chicago and most would be more comfortable and stable situations. D Rose is such a big question mark, I wouldn't expect any star to sign on without knowing how he's going to be. What if Lebron comes here and Derrick is broken down? That situation wouldn't be much different for Lebron than what he has now except he'd have Thibs screaming at him for 40 mins a game. Chicago isn't the best option. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
spanky wrote: You've never heard anybody in Chicago say bad things about Jordan? Not while he was collecting rings. There was a lot of "Jordan is a bad guy" hindsight shit after he was done here. I'm not saying everyone would be on board, I'm just saying most would. With only a few people holding on, trying to look smart or something. Getting LeBron would be one of the best Chicago sports accquisitions ever. We tend to forgive and forget a lot here... |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
I have a strong preference to win with our guys. That is what made the Blackhawks so entertaining is that Toews, Kane, Seabs, Keith were ours although one would argue Sharp and Hossa were not. But I think you get my point. It is the same reason I like the Cubs plan. Regardless of that though, I would take LeBron in a heart beat. I just think the draft/develop version is so much more fun. Look at the Spurs vs. Heat, which one would you rather cheer for- hired hands or your guys from the beginning? |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
KDdidit wrote: Good thing I don't care enough about the Bulls to cheer for Lebron. Ivan should appreciate rooting against a hometown team for dumb reasons. doesn't count... |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Krazy Ivan wrote: spanky wrote: You've never heard anybody in Chicago say bad things about Jordan? Not while he was collecting rings. There was a lot of "Jordan is a bad guy" hindsight shit after he was done here. I'm not saying everyone would be on board, I'm just saying most would. With only a few people holding on, trying to look smart or something. Getting LeBron would be one of the best Chicago sports accquisitions ever. We tend to forgive and forget a lot here... People say douchey things about Cutler all the time and he's still here win-...........wait...... Dammit, Jay! |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Not while he was collecting rings. There was a lot of "Jordan is a bad guy" hindsight shit after he was done here. I'm not saying everyone would be on board, I'm just saying most would. With only a few people holding on, trying to look smart or something. If Lebron gave me a million dollars I'd never say a bad thing about him either. Does that mean I can't have an opinion on him now?
Getting LeBron would be one of the best Chicago sports accquisitions ever. We tend to forgive and forget a lot here... |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: Not while he was collecting rings. There was a lot of "Jordan is a bad guy" hindsight shit after he was done here. I'm not saying everyone would be on board, I'm just saying most would. With only a few people holding on, trying to look smart or something. If Lebron gave me a million dollars I'd never say a bad thing about him either. Does that mean I can't have an opinion on him now?Getting LeBron would be one of the best Chicago sports accquisitions ever. We tend to forgive and forget a lot here...  Don't be silly, Rick. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
He's just a douchebag. Doesn't mean he's not a great player. Not sure why it's so hard to accept both truths for some here. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
FavreFan wrote: He's just a douchebag. Doesn't mean he's not a great player. Not sure why it's so hard to accept both truths for some here.  Who isn't accepting that? There are a lot of assumptions and not a lot of reading going on here... |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6/17 OMG, LeBron could be a Bull |
FavreFan wrote: He's just a douchebag. Doesn't mean he's not a great player. Not sure why it's so hard to accept both truths for some here. I don't understand it either. If he were a Bull, I'd root for him, but I'd still think he was a douchebag. And I actually don't want him on the Bulls because liking the guys on my teams is as important to me as them winning (sorry Danny boy). I don't know why some get so caught up in what others think. Are they forced to read our opinions? Just push the but... I mean look at other message boards or other threads. |
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| Author: | Dave In Champaign [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:29 pm ] |
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KDdidit wrote: Ivan should appreciate rooting against a hometown team for dumb reasons. Touch 'em all, KD. |
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