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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Four Eastern Conference championships in very down years for the conference. Two Finals losses as favorites. One strike shortened season championship against a team decimated by injury. The other championship earned as heavy favorites that they won by miracle. I won't call this team smoke and mirrors but I think there is a myth about their dominance. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Seems close. I would say the West has been the story the last decade. Edit to account for the Celtics. |
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| Author: | Councilman Les Whinen [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Dominance is definitely a myth. The Eastern conference is horrible and the Heat were hardly dominant in the Finals. This whole Heat team has been overblown for a long time. They weren't exactly paper champs but with 2 hall of famers at the top of the roster and all the bluster when they came together, I think it's fair to say the Heat failed to deliver on the hype. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
The fact that "four straight finals appearances" is even said should tell you all you need to know. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
I believe they are the first team to make 4 straight appearances to the Finals since the great Celtics teams of the 60's. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Nas wrote: I believe they are the first team to make 4 straight appearances to the Finals since the great Celtics teams of the 60's. 82-85 Lakers |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
good dolphin wrote: Four Eastern Conference championships in very down years for the conference. Two Finals losses as favorites. One strike shortened season championship against a team decimated by injury. The other championship earned as heavy favorites that they won by miracle. I won't call this team smoke and mirrors but I think there is a myth about their dominance. And now people will rightfully say that they were lucky to win a second ring. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Jordan never made 4 straight finals! |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Jordan never made 4 straight finals! True. He is 6-0. Lebron is 2-3. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Jordan never made 4 straight finals! Delonte West wrote: That's what's I just told Momma Gloria
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| Author: | Councilman Les Whinen [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Seacrest wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Jordan never made 4 straight finals! True. He is 6-0. Lebron is 2-3. But you're forgetting the most important thing, Jordan didn't have to deal with twitter and facebook and also he was really mean to people on occasion 20 years ago. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
They weren't heavy favorites last year and they were underdogs this year. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
"Not three, not four, not five, not six..."?!? |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Just another team. Hardly dominant. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
They were a very good team who took advantage of a weak Eastern Conference. Making the finals four straight years is no small feat, but it's nothing close to a dynasty. I would put them down with the Rockets of the '90s. They had a couple very opportunistic rings with one great player and a decent supporting cast, but nothing for the ages. Dwyane Wade = Kenny Smith |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
The Heat have been to the Finals and won more championships than any other team in the NBA since The Decision. I would say that vindicates LeBron. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Nas wrote: The Heat have been to the Finals and won more championships than any other team in the NBA since The Decision. I would say that vindicates LeBron. Yeah I mean the plan worked but they basically failed to deliver twice. But getting there each year proves it was a wise "decision". |
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| Author: | Councilman Les Whinen [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
leashyourkids wrote: They were a very good team who took advantage of a weak Eastern Conference. Making the finals four straight years is no small feat, but it's nothing close to a dynasty. I would put them down with the Rockets of the '90s. They had a couple very opportunistic rings with one great player and a decent supporting cast, but nothing for the ages. Dwyane Wade = Kenny Smith But I think ultimately the Rockets of the 90's will be remembered a bit more fondly than the Heat. There was never the enormous hype, declaring themselves a dynasty before playing a single game and celebrating more titles than they ended up winning. The Heat set themselves up to look foolish. They may end up as one of NBA history's cautionary tales. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
good dolphin wrote: Two Finals losses as favorites. The Spurs were favored to win the series this year. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
lipidquadcab wrote: Nas wrote: I believe they are the first team to make 4 straight appearances to the Finals since the great Celtics teams of the 60's. 82-85 Lakers 84-87 Celtics |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Councilman Les Whinen wrote: leashyourkids wrote: They were a very good team who took advantage of a weak Eastern Conference. Making the finals four straight years is no small feat, but it's nothing close to a dynasty. I would put them down with the Rockets of the '90s. They had a couple very opportunistic rings with one great player and a decent supporting cast, but nothing for the ages. Dwyane Wade = Kenny Smith But I think ultimately the Rockets of the 90's will be remembered a bit more fondly than the Heat. There was never the enormous hype, declaring themselves a dynasty before playing a single game and celebrating more titles than they ended up winning. The Heat set themselves up to look foolish. They may end up as one of NBA history's cautionary tales. This I agree with. They were never dominant though they did win and you can't discount that. The Bernstein hype machine and I will mention him since this is his thread made them out to be far more dominant than they actually are. I still believe that the Bulls without the injuries could have taken them but we will never know for sure. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
FavreFan wrote: They weren't heavy favorites last year and they were underdogs this year. Even -110 for both teams with the Spurs holding home court certainly suggests favorite |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Regular Reader wrote: "Not three, not four, not five, not six..."?!? The Heat brass orchestrated him saying that ..... |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Is The Heat Legacy? |
Regular Reader wrote: "Not three, not four, not five, not six..."?!? He's never spoke truer words. |
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