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How's the little girl, Chris Kluwe? You know -- the "underage girl" who was "caught in a compromising position" with "two very well known Vikings."

That one. Her.

How is she, Chris? Who is she? Where is she?

Do her parents know what happened to her, or is that not your concern? Maybe that girl is just like all those little boys who were raped by Jerry Sandusky -- not your concern beyond being the punch line to a joke, or the hook to an edgy tweet, as you used that little girl on Friday night right here:

More than 1,000 people retweeted that one, passing around that little girl like a virus and not the human being Chris Kluwe seems to have forgotten she is. After all that encouragement, Kluwe issued a second tweet about her:

No, Chris, we didn't hear about the underage girl and the two NFL football players, presumably because there was no police report about the incident, only talk in the Vikings locker room, talk that you heard because special teams hears *everything*.

As for the rest of your tweet, Chris, no thanks. Let's not do this all day. And let's be done with the me-to-Chris portion of this column and open it up to include everybody else, and I'm hoping everybody else -- or at least a lot of people -- are like me today: Looking at Chris Kluwe in a different light.

Today I'm disgusted by two people: Mike Priefer, the Vikings special teams coach whose homophobia was so degrading and so public that the team suspended him on Friday for three games of the 2014 NFL season. And Chris Kluwe, who apparently did stuff in the Vikings locker room that was every bit as offensive, every bit as homophobic, as Priefer.

According to the report, whose public release Kluwe has been demanding, Kluwe used the Sandusky horror in Penn State as the set-up to his joke, which was to walk around the locker room with a hole ripped out of his pants -- in the back, near his rectum -- and said he was a "Penn State victim."

Kluwe's joke -- get it? -- was directed at strength coach Tom Kanavy, who is described by Kluwe on Twitter as "a big Penn State guy." Kluwe confirmed that he made some such Sandusky joke "once" but said everybody was doing it.

Over half the team did it for over a month? Well, that makes it all better.

No it doesn't. And what Kluwe did in that locker room -- and what he apparently did not do, as it relates to that underage girl -- is in stark contrast to the fine work he has done on behalf of the LGBT community. He has been that community's champion in the NFL, he and Brendon Ayanbadejo, and this doesn't diminish that.

But this stuff does diminish Chris Kluwe, and is a reminder to all of us -- me included -- that noble intentions in some areas of life, even most areas of life, do not make any of us untouchable or incapable of becoming on occasion the very thing we hate.

And Chris Kluwe, it turns out, is the very thing he claims to hate: a jerk who traffics in cruel humor, homophobic jokes and look-the-other-way cowardice when the mood strikes. Now that he has been outed as such -- and has outed himself with his own words on Twitter -- he has sacrificed his position of bighearted moral crusader.

Seriously, can you look at Chris Kluwe the same way again? Not me. Can't take him seriously now that we know he tore a hole out of the back of his pants and paraded around the locker room as a "Penn State victim." That's so awful, and so stupid, Richie Incognito may well have chuckled when he heard about it.

The next time something needs to be said on behalf of homosexuals in the NFL -- on behalf of Rams linebacker Michael Sam -- or even on behalf of the LBGT community, period, Chris Kluwe is not someone I want to hear it from. Not as the voice of compassion. Not anymore.

And I don't know what to make of Kluwe's assertion that an underage girl was in some sort of "compromising position" with two Vikings, a story that he threw out as tantalizing tweet-bait and then bragged about his insider info by adding, "Bet you didn't hear about that one."

Were the cops called? The girl's parents? Were team officials told? These are questions I have for Chris Kluwe, and I tried to reach him Saturday on his preferred method of discourse (Twitter), but as of this story's posting he hasn't responded. If he does -- if you do, Chris -- I will update this story. It's the Internet. Stories online are fluid.

So are reputations. Chris Kluwe, crusader for so many good causes, remains that -- and so much less. But in case you were wondering, he seems to stand by his tweets from Friday. This is what he said toward the end of his Twitter barrage:

Not carefully enough, Chris.

Who's the girl? How is she?

Do you know, Chris?

Do you care?

-----------

Update, 5:37 p.m.: Kluwe responded to me on Twitter by providing an email address, and from there a phone number. We spoke, but he wouldn't talk about the "compromising position" involving the "underage girl" -- other than to say I had made an "assumption." To which I said:

"Tell me what happened with the girl, or I'm leaving that part of my story as-is."

Kluwe: "Leave it."

Kluwe did talk about -- and express some regret for -- the Penn State joke.

Kluwe: "That one, the way the report presented it, it was presented in a way designed to make me look bad."

Me: "There's no way to present that without you looking bad."

Kluwe: "The intent was to make fun of the culture of Penn State that allowed that to happen: Do whatever it takes to protect the team. If that offended some people, then yes, I'm sorry for offending those people. I realize some people may not like that sort of humor. If it comes to speaking truth to power, standing up to blind fanaticism, that's what I'm going to do."

As for his battle with the Vikings, Kluwe closed with this:

"I didn't want it to come to this. It's ugly, and it's going to get worse."

Author:	8675309 [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:15 pm ]
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Kluwe is a known media whore who's been trying to get a media gig since his days of a crappy punter ended. He's also good for the family gay wedding business. Just as Dan was getting ready for a weeks worth of important Kluwe radio it comes out that Kluwe cut a hole in the ass of his shorts and joked he was a "Sandusky victim". His excuse was everybody was doing it........ Almost as fun as the Wildebeest story.

Author:	312player [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:18 pm ]
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What's the wildabeast story? This whole Vikings. vs Kluwe thing is bad for everyone ...just move on.

Author:	Franky T [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:20 pm ]
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I'm sure he'll say making fun of Sandusky is OK because in a sense, he's making fun of the Penn State truthers. Gay people don't rape children! Don't you dare make fun of gays...TB Diddlers be damned!

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:03 am ]
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The Vikings locker room has made bad headlines pretty much since I was a child going all the way back to Tommy Kramer trying to drink the alcohol equivalent of 10,000 lakes

Author:	hnd [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:48 am ]
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you could tell bernstein was about to go on a twitter retweet fest then just slammed on them brakes. social media is such a two edged sword.

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Author:	Rod [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:01 am ]
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hnd wrote: you could tell bernstein was about to go on a twitter retweet fest then just slammed on them brakes. social media is such a two edged sword. DON'T. BLAME. SOCIAL. MEDIA. BECAUSE. PEOPLE. ARE. IDIOTS.

Author:	ChgoSportsFreak [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:01 am ]
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Think it's more important that he is claiming of having knowledge of underage shenanigans involving 2 Vikings players but he won't talk about it...besides to tell you he knows of it and that he won't talk about it. Dude is a poser.

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:06 am ]
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ChgoSportsFreak wrote: Think it's more important that he is claiming of having knowledge of underage shenanigans involving 2 Vikings players but he won't talk about it...besides to tell you he knows of it and that he won't talk about it. Dude is a poser. That's page one in the Dan Bernstein playbook. Kluwe is indeed quite the poser.

Author:	pittmike [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:24 am ]
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SpiralStairs wrote: ChgoSportsFreak wrote: Think it's more important that he is claiming of having knowledge of underage shenanigans involving 2 Vikings players but he won't talk about it...besides to tell you he knows of it and that he won't talk about it. Dude is a poser. That's page one in the Dan Bernstein playbook. Kluwe is indeed quite the poser. From my brain to Spiral's keyboard.

Author:	Franky T [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:25 am ]
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ChgoSportsFreak wrote: Think it's more important that he is claiming of having knowledge of underage shenanigans involving 2 Vikings players but he won't talk about it...besides to tell you he knows of it and that he won't talk about it. Dude is a poser. You would think, at a minimum, law enforcement would call Kluwe in and ask what he knows about that.

Author:	Reared on the Score [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:29 am ]
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Franky T wrote: ChgoSportsFreak wrote: Think it's more important that he is claiming of having knowledge of underage shenanigans involving 2 Vikings players but he won't talk about it...besides to tell you he knows of it and that he won't talk about it. Dude is a poser. You would think, at a minimum, law enforcement would call Kluwe in and ask what he knows about that. Especially since Bernstein already alerted the authorities.

Author:	Zizou [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:21 am ]
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The initial love-in for Kluwe from Beerstain and the Deadspin disciples immediately made me suspicious of the guy. A football white knight. How internet-y.

Author:	Tad Queasy [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:17 am ]
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Kluwe sounds a lot like Bernstein. Kluwe's Tweets are in the article at the link below, but they didn't copy and paste with the rest of the text. http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... itter-rant Gregg Doyel wrote: How's the little girl, Chris Kluwe? You know -- the "underage girl" who was "caught in a compromising position" with "two very well known Vikings." That one. Her. How is she, Chris? Who is she? Where is she? Do her parents know what happened to her, or is that not your concern? Maybe that girl is just like all those little boys who were raped by Jerry Sandusky -- not your concern beyond being the punch line to a joke, or the hook to an edgy tweet, as you used that little girl on Friday night right here: More than 1,000 people retweeted that one, passing around that little girl like a virus and not the human being Chris Kluwe seems to have forgotten she is. After all that encouragement, Kluwe issued a second tweet about her: No, Chris, we didn't hear about the underage girl and the two NFL football players, presumably because there was no police report about the incident, only talk in the Vikings locker room, talk that you heard because special teams hears everything. As for the rest of your tweet, Chris, no thanks. Let's not do this all day. And let's be done with the me-to-Chris portion of this column and open it up to include everybody else, and I'm hoping everybody else -- or at least a lot of people -- are like me today: Looking at Chris Kluwe in a different light. Today I'm disgusted by two people: Mike Priefer, the Vikings special teams coach whose homophobia was so degrading and so public that the team suspended him on Friday for three games of the 2014 NFL season. And Chris Kluwe, who apparently did stuff in the Vikings locker room that was every bit as offensive, every bit as homophobic, as Priefer. According to the report, whose public release Kluwe has been demanding, Kluwe used the Sandusky horror in Penn State as the set-up to his joke, which was to walk around the locker room with a hole ripped out of his pants -- in the back, near his rectum -- and said he was a "Penn State victim." Kluwe's joke -- get it? -- was directed at strength coach Tom Kanavy, who is described by Kluwe on Twitter as "a big Penn State guy." Kluwe confirmed that he made some such Sandusky joke "once" but said everybody was doing it. Over half the team did it for over a month? Well, that makes it all better. No it doesn't. And what Kluwe did in that locker room -- and what he apparently did not do, as it relates to that underage girl -- is in stark contrast to the fine work he has done on behalf of the LGBT community. He has been that community's champion in the NFL, he and Brendon Ayanbadejo, and this doesn't diminish that. But this stuff does diminish Chris Kluwe, and is a reminder to all of us -- me included -- that noble intentions in some areas of life, even most areas of life, do not make any of us untouchable or incapable of becoming on occasion the very thing we hate. And Chris Kluwe, it turns out, is the very thing he claims to hate: a jerk who traffics in cruel humor, homophobic jokes and look-the-other-way cowardice when the mood strikes. Now that he has been outed as such -- and has outed himself with his own words on Twitter -- he has sacrificed his position of bighearted moral crusader. Seriously, can you look at Chris Kluwe the same way again? Not me. Can't take him seriously now that we know he tore a hole out of the back of his pants and paraded around the locker room as a "Penn State victim." That's so awful, and so stupid, Richie Incognito may well have chuckled when he heard about it. The next time something needs to be said on behalf of homosexuals in the NFL -- on behalf of Rams linebacker Michael Sam -- or even on behalf of the LBGT community, period, Chris Kluwe is not someone I want to hear it from. Not as the voice of compassion. Not anymore. And I don't know what to make of Kluwe's assertion that an underage girl was in some sort of "compromising position" with two Vikings, a story that he threw out as tantalizing tweet-bait and then bragged about his insider info by adding, "Bet you didn't hear about that one." Were the cops called? The girl's parents? Were team officials told? These are questions I have for Chris Kluwe, and I tried to reach him Saturday on his preferred method of discourse (Twitter), but as of this story's posting he hasn't responded. If he does -- if you do, Chris -- I will update this story. It's the Internet. Stories online are fluid. So are reputations. Chris Kluwe, crusader for so many good causes, remains that -- and so much less. But in case you were wondering, he seems to stand by his tweets from Friday. This is what he said toward the end of his Twitter barrage: Not carefully enough, Chris. Who's the girl? How is she? Do you know, Chris? Do you care? ----------- Update, 5:37 p.m.: Kluwe responded to me on Twitter by providing an email address, and from there a phone number. We spoke, but he wouldn't talk about the "compromising position" involving the "underage girl" -- other than to say I had made an "assumption." To which I said: "Tell me what happened with the girl, or I'm leaving that part of my story as-is." Kluwe: "Leave it." Kluwe did talk about -- and express some regret for -- the Penn State joke. Kluwe: "That one, the way the report presented it, it was presented in a way designed to make me look bad." Me: "There's no way to present that without you looking bad." Kluwe: "The intent was to make fun of the culture of Penn State that allowed that to happen: Do whatever it takes to protect the team. If that offended some people, then yes, I'm sorry for offending those people. I realize some people may not like that sort of humor. If it comes to speaking truth to power, standing up to blind fanaticism, that's what I'm going to do." As for his battle with the Vikings, Kluwe closed with this: "I didn't want it to come to this. It's ugly, and it's going to get worse."

Author:	spmack [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:35 am ]
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Bernstein is going to have a field day with the Dungy stuff that just came out where he said he wouldn't have drafted Michael Sam because he's gay.

Author:	redskingreg [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:19 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: Fuck Kluwe Fuck BeerStain Fuck Dungy Fuck the Vikings Also, Fuck Mobb Deep Fuck Biggie Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fucking crew

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:20 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Fuck Kluwe Fuck BeerStain Fuck Dungy Fuck the Vikings Also, Fuck Mobb Deep Fuck Biggie Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fucking crew One of the songs played before Kendrick came out yesterday

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Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:36 am ]
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it should be remembered y-that none of this absolves the vikings

Author:	Franky T [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:09 pm ]
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spmack wrote: Bernstein is going to have a field day with the Dungy stuff that just came out where he said he wouldn't have drafted Michael Sam because he's gay. That's not what he said, but that's how Danny will read it. Dungy is a Christian so that will add fuel to his fire. Add to it that he said he'd take Tebow 1st overall and it is a perfect storm for Danny to bash Christians.

Author:	redskingreg [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:18 pm ]
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spmack wrote: Bernstein is going to have a field day with the Dungy stuff that just came out where he said he wouldn't have drafted Michael Sam because he's gay. Yeah, but he's gay!

Author:	Tad Queasy [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:20 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: it should be remembered y-that none of this absolves the vikings It should also be noted that If Woody had gone right to the police, this would never have happened.

Author:	312player [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:22 pm ]
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Ofcourse Tony Dungy wouldn't have drafted Sam, he's a huge asshole n wouldn't accept his own son as gay...probably why he killed himself ..I hate Dungy, very over rated coach as well.

Author:	8675309 [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:50 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: Fuck Kluwe Fuck BeerStain Fuck Dungy Fuck the Vikings ...and Larrys fade

Author:	badrogue17 [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:02 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote: good dolphin wrote: it should be remembered y-that none of this absolves the vikings It should also be noted that If Woody had gone right to the police, this would never have happened.

Author:	pittmike [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:06 pm ]
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spmack wrote: Bernstein is going to have a field day with the Dungy stuff that just came out where he said he wouldn't have drafted Michael Sam because he's gay. That would be special especially as Terry was the biggest tongue poker of Dungy when he was a DC in MN and would come on the Heavy Fuel show when there were filling time way back when. Of course, then Tony was "terrific".

Author:	conns7901 [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:12 pm ]
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Shots at Tony Dungy right out of the gate.

Author:	pittmike [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:13 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote: Shots at Tony Dungy right out of the gate. And Terry with the uh huh and oh yeah.

Author:	SomeGuy [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:17 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote: Shots at Tony Dungy right out of the gate. Im sure they took the time to put his words in the full context of what he said, right?

Author:	spmack [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:22 pm ]
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You may want to change the name of the thread....got a feeling it might be a Penn State-ish day on Dungy.

Author:	conns7901 [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:24 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote: conns7901 wrote: Shots at Tony Dungy right out of the gate. Im sure they took the time to put his words in the full context of what he said, right? Actually Dan is perplexed why Dungy would not want gays in the league.