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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
On the backchannel negotiations for the Cubs to get Joe Maddon: "Nobody involved in this is stupid. Everyone involved in this is smart." There is no Plan B. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Curious Hair wrote: On the backchannel negotiations for the Cubs to get Joe Maddon: "Nobody involved in this is stupid. Everyone involved in this is smart." There is no Plan B.  Is that a direct quote?
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Absolutely. Dan said everyone involved in the Chicago Cubs' tampering is smart. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
From my thread, which has been deleted. Let's be clear here. They are doing everything they can to treat the actual manager of the Cubs with respect, all the while throwing themselves at Joe Maddon like a single girl at a bar on Valentine's Day. |
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| Author: | Reared on the Score [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
jeez, even Crane is smart now? guest-light today: Pete Fiutak at 4:40, Hub at 5. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Seems as if I heard this back channel Cubs manager stuff before? |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
All of this aside ... if/when Maddon shows up for a press conference in a Cubs hat, with another manager already being paid (albeit not a fortune), does that start to indicate that Ricketts isn't an absolutely miser? I mean, somebody only interested in owning the Cubs to not spend money doesn't run out to spend money. It would seem to me it would be enough of an indicator to be able to shut down the idiot talk about the Cubs aren't ever going to spend money to contend ... unless somebody is going to try to contrive a storyline in which it's all a great ruse to keep fans interested by poaching a sitting manager from an AL team as a smokescreen to not signing big money talent when the time is appropriate. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Anyone catch terry claiming he called his cubs guys last night? DB: "Oh you did" TB: "Yes, I called him and he said,,,,well I left him a message and he called me back with a text and just said Yes" DB:"really?" TB: "Yes, he knew the question I had for him and he just said yes when I talked to him" did some searching and I found Terrys cub Guy! 
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Don Tiny wrote: It would seem to me it would be enough of an indicator to be able to shut down the idiot talk about the Cubs aren't ever going to spend money to contend ... unless somebody is going to try to contrive a storyline in which it's all a great ruse to keep fans interested by poaching a sitting manager from an AL team as a smokescreen to not signing big money talent when the time is appropriate. Total payroll matters, and it should be top 5.Paying a guy equal to Kyuji Fujikawa doesn't exactly prove anything. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
On Renteria: Bernstein wrote: I don't think they'd dock his pay that much.
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Don Tiny wrote: It would seem to me it would be enough of an indicator to be able to shut down the idiot talk about the Cubs aren't ever going to spend money to contend ... unless somebody is going to try to contrive a storyline in which it's all a great ruse to keep fans interested by poaching a sitting manager from an AL team as a smokescreen to not signing big money talent when the time is appropriate. Total payroll matters, and it should be top 5.Paying a guy equal to Kyuji Fujikawa doesn't exactly prove anything. It has not mattered until perhaps next season ... 2016 for certain ... at least that's where I've been with it since this all started. As far as the docking pay ... yeah, that's one of the dumbest things I've heard so far ... I don't think they can just dock his pay like the poor chink that passed out in Blazing Saddles. |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Bernstein: They'll do right to Renteria. Move him to another position, not dock his pay too much. He signed a contract. Dock his pay?!?!??!
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Renteria seems to be OK. He'll do whatever he's told. Sounds like the perfect employee. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: On Renteria: Bernstein wrote: I don't think they'd dock his pay that much. I see not everyone involved in this radio show is smart. |
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| Author: | Reared on the Score [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Hatchetman wrote: Renteria seems to be OK. He'll do whatever he's told. Sounds like the perfect employee. Not until he complements his boss after this 'lateral' move. |
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| Author: | Reared on the Score [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
so is this really the show today? I liked it better when B&B celebrated the stupid in sports. |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:01 pm ] |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Kirkwood wrote: Bernstein: They'll do right to Renteria. Move him to another position, not dock his pay too much. He signed a contract. Dock his pay?!?!??! Good point. Also, he's not gonna take another position. He'll leave and they'll pay him his last 2 years of his contract. HE WANTS TO BE A MANAGER. Not some advanced scout or whatever they'd have him do. Do right by him? Not too much doc in pay? What? Bernstein is stupid.Nobody would stay a team that fired them as a manager. That would just be humiliating to that person. Who wouldn't just take two years of salary and leave? |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Kirkwood wrote: Bernstein: They'll do right to Renteria. Move him to another position, not dock his pay too much. He signed a contract. Dock his pay?!?!??! Dan exposed once again. Not only does he have a guaranteed contract, he has a guaranteed contract to be a field manager. They cannot demote him to say, clubhouse attendant in the hopes that he breaks his end of the contract and they don't have to pay him. Like I said, if Renteria accepts this he has no dignity unless they did something like double his salary |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
These two guys are more delusional than any Cubs fans, and one is supposedly a Sox fan and the other is supposedly a Rays fan. It's obvious what the Cubs are doing to Ricky, and how they aren't treating him "well", to pretty much everyone. He'll console himself with the millions of dollars he'll get for doing nothing but if you asked Ricky right now what he would want it would be "Be the Cubs coach for the length of my contract". |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
good dolphin wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Bernstein: They'll do right to Renteria. Move him to another position, not dock his pay too much. He signed a contract. Dock his pay?!?!??! Dan exposed once again. Not only does he have a guaranteed contract, he has a guaranteed contract to be a field manager. They cannot demote him to say, clubhouse attendant in the hopes that he breaks his end of the contract and they don't have to pay him. Like I said, if Renteria accepts this he has no dignity unless they did something like double his salary He won't accept it. He'll take his two years of salary and try to be a manager some where else. He'll get a bench coach job right away probably. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: These two guys are more delusional than any Cubs fans, and one is supposedly a Sox fan and the other is supposedly a Rays fan. They're both HUGE Cub fans, so that might explain it. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
good dolphin wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Bernstein: They'll do right to Renteria. Move him to another position, not dock his pay too much. He signed a contract. Dock his pay?!?!??! Dan exposed once again. Not only does he have a guaranteed contract, he has a guaranteed contract to be a field manager. They cannot demote him to say, clubhouse attendant in the hopes that he breaks his end of the contract and they don't have to pay him. Like I said, if Renteria accepts this he has no dignity unless they did something like double his salary The bigger question for a major Cub fan like bernstein should be, what do you do when they fail under Maddon? |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
A caller congratulated CBS radio.
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Oh gawd, a fucking caller congratulated CBS radio for signing the Cubs. fuck this earth. |
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| Author: | Hayden Fry's Mustache [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Hatchetman wrote: Renteria seems to be OK. He'll do whatever he's told. Sounds like the perfect employee. Or every person who works with Bernstein. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: A caller congratulated CBS radio. Kirkwood wrote: Oh gawd, a fucking caller congratulated CBS radio for signing the Cubs. fuck this earth. Did he say "don't thank me, thank Rod Zimmerman"? |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Would Bernstein have accepted a paycut and demotion if Dan McNeil were given a show with Boers? |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Would Bernstein have accepted a paycut and demotion if Dan McNeil were given a show with Boers? Why not? It's a semi-lateral move. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28: Nobody involved in this is stupid. |
Curious Hair wrote: There is no Plan B. Accurate This is at least Plan D |
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