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Author: | Beardown [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | 11/3 - Will Joe Maddon win the press conference? |
Dan Bernstein will be listening intensely and give us the verdict after it's over. THIS IS REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT. It's no different than game 7 of the World Series. It needs to be a win. Cubs fans are nervous. |
Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 11/3 - Will Joe Maddon win the press conference? |
Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. |
Author: | RFDC [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:26 pm ] |
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Jaw Breaker wrote: Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. Who said Renteria was forced to do that? |
Author: | Zizou [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:26 pm ] |
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He'll have Julian Green coaching him up. Some Dearick Rose talk today? Ankles. Ice. Hospital. Next Grant Hill. |
Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:27 pm ] |
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As long as he stands to the side of the lectern whilst dispensing his pearls of wisdom, it's another Cubbie winner! |
Author: | Rod [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:28 pm ] |
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Jaw Breaker wrote: Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. Well, that's one of the puzzling things about the entire situation. The modern SABRmetric take on managers is that they are as meaningless as RBI and W/L records. If that's the case, why pay three of them at once? Or will Theo abandon his core philosopy re: a manager's duties because, well, because after all, Maddon is Maddon? |
Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:40 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. Who said Renteria was forced to do that? Bruce Levine: "The Cubs management group put Baez in the No. 2 hole of the batting order and have not wavered on that decision, regardless of the quality of the young player’s at-bats." |
Author: | Rod [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:46 pm ] |
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Jaw Breaker wrote: RFDC wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. Who said Renteria was forced to do that? Bruce Levine: "The Cubs management group put Baez in the No. 2 hole of the batting order and have not wavered on that decision, regardless of the quality of the young player’s at-bats." That was an issue with Beane and Art Howe as well. The new model is that the front office is making these calls based on their data. Maybe the thinking is that they won't have to twist Maddon's arm as he will be able to see the wisdom in the percentages. Epstein isn't looking for a guy like Zimmer who says something like, "I know he's 1 for 56 against this guy, but I looked down the bench and Mendy just had that look in his eye." |
Author: | Beardown [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:00 pm ] |
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Is this press conference on TV? I'd imagine Comcast would carry it? If so, could you imagine the lustful look on Bernstein's face as he watches Theo and Joe sitting next to each other as they dominate this press conference? Then the look on his face as Theo slips the Cubs jersey on Joe. Dan: Beardown: Calm down, buddy. Calm down. |
Author: | Tad Queasy [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:01 pm ] |
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"Winning the Press Conference" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can *say* anything you want in a press conference, but what you actually do and how your team performs is what matters. I don't think anyone takes these seriously, except someone who needs to fill several hours of a talk show with hyperanalysis and speculation. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:02 pm ] |
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"When he put on that Cubs hat...he looked smart." |
Author: | Zizou [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:07 pm ] |
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Tad Queasy wrote: "Winning the Press Conference" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can *say* anything you want in a press conference, but what you actually do and how your team performs is what matters. I don't think anyone takes these seriously, except someone who needs to fill several hours of a talk show with hyperanalysis and speculation. Generally, I would agree with you but if you saw Tim Beckman's first press conference you'd have come away thinking he was a mumbling, blathering simpleton and that the best case scenario for his coaching career at Illinois was well-contained dumpster fire. |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:22 pm ] |
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Didn't Emery "win" his press conference? Also known as "the golden age of Chicago G.M.''s"? Bernstein has really provided some great thoughts on the airwaves. |
Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:23 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: Didn't Emery "win" his press conference? Also known as "the golden age of Chicago G.M.''s"? Bernstein has really provided some great thoughts on the airwaves. Even Eddie Robinson would agree. |
Author: | denisdman [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:25 pm ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Didn't Emery "win" his press conference? Also known as "the golden age of Chicago G.M.''s"? Bernstein has really provided some great thoughts on the airwaves. Even Eddie Robinson would agree. Mel Rojas, Todd Hundley, Ben Wallace, Milton Bradley....Lamar Houston? |
Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:26 pm ] |
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denisdman wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Didn't Emery "win" his press conference? Also known as "the golden age of Chicago G.M.''s"? Bernstein has really provided some great thoughts on the airwaves. Even Eddie Robinson would agree. Mel Rojas, Todd Hundley, Ben Wallace, Milton Bradley....Lamar Houston? Jay Cutler? |
Author: | denisdman [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:31 pm ] |
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Hmmm, you are at least getting some production. I'll say no on Cutler. Cristobal Huet (sp?). |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:34 pm ] |
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Zizou wrote: Tad Queasy wrote: "Winning the Press Conference" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can *say* anything you want in a press conference, but what you actually do and how your team performs is what matters. I don't think anyone takes these seriously, except someone who needs to fill several hours of a talk show with hyperanalysis and speculation. Generally, I would agree with you but if you saw Tim Beckman's first press conference you'd have come away thinking he was a mumbling, blathering simpleton and that the best case scenario for his coaching career at Illinois was well-contained dumpster fire. Normally, I'd agree with Tad's thought. "Winning the Press Conference" is just a stupid concept. However, I also immediately thought of the Tim Beckman press conference, and realized "Losing the Press Conference" is a definite possibility. That said, I fully expect Maddon to win the Press Conference World Championship today, complete with reporter giggles that will be interesting to see if Bernsie calls those reporters out on. My guess is that he won't. |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:36 pm ] |
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Jaw Breaker wrote: RFDC wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. Who said Renteria was forced to do that? Bruce Levine: "The Cubs management group put Baez in the No. 2 hole of the batting order and have not wavered on that decision, regardless of the quality of the young player’s at-bats." Has Bruce's source confirmed that a Maddon deal is done yet or is he still sticking with nothing is happening? |
Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:50 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Zizou wrote: Tad Queasy wrote: "Winning the Press Conference" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can *say* anything you want in a press conference, but what you actually do and how your team performs is what matters. I don't think anyone takes these seriously, except someone who needs to fill several hours of a talk show with hyperanalysis and speculation. Generally, I would agree with you but if you saw Tim Beckman's first press conference you'd have come away thinking he was a mumbling, blathering simpleton and that the best case scenario for his coaching career at Illinois was well-contained dumpster fire. Normally, I'd agree with Tad's thought. "Winning the Press Conference" is just a stupid concept. However, I also immediately thought of the Tim Beckman press conference, and realized "Losing the Press Conference" is a definite possibility. That said, I fully expect Maddon to win the Press Conference World Championship today, complete with reporter giggles that will be interesting to see if Bernsie calls those reporters out on. My guess is that he won't. Jesse Rogers will be wearing a Cubs jersey |
Author: | Tad Queasy [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:57 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Zizou wrote: Tad Queasy wrote: "Winning the Press Conference" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can *say* anything you want in a press conference, but what you actually do and how your team performs is what matters. I don't think anyone takes these seriously, except someone who needs to fill several hours of a talk show with hyperanalysis and speculation. Generally, I would agree with you but if you saw Tim Beckman's first press conference you'd have come away thinking he was a mumbling, blathering simpleton and that the best case scenario for his coaching career at Illinois was well-contained dumpster fire. Normally, I'd agree with Tad's thought. "Winning the Press Conference" is just a stupid concept. However, I also immediately thought of the Tim Beckman press conference, and realized "Losing the Press Conference" is a definite possibility. That said, I fully expect Maddon to win the Press Conference World Championship today, complete with reporter giggles that will be interesting to see if Bernsie calls those reporters out on. My guess is that he won't. I understand your points, but a guy could be a terrible public speaker and a really good coach or he could be a slick talker but be in way over his head as a coach. I agree that Bernsie will likely have the Press Conference World Championship title belt all shined up and ready to be fastened snugly across Maddon's waist this afternoon. |
Author: | Seacrest [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:58 pm ] |
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good dolphin wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Zizou wrote: Tad Queasy wrote: "Winning the Press Conference" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can *say* anything you want in a press conference, but what you actually do and how your team performs is what matters. I don't think anyone takes these seriously, except someone who needs to fill several hours of a talk show with hyperanalysis and speculation. Generally, I would agree with you but if you saw Tim Beckman's first press conference you'd have come away thinking he was a mumbling, blathering simpleton and that the best case scenario for his coaching career at Illinois was well-contained dumpster fire. Normally, I'd agree with Tad's thought. "Winning the Press Conference" is just a stupid concept. However, I also immediately thought of the Tim Beckman press conference, and realized "Losing the Press Conference" is a definite possibility. That said, I fully expect Maddon to win the Press Conference World Championship today, complete with reporter giggles that will be interesting to see if Bernsie calls those reporters out on. My guess is that he won't. Jesse Rogers will be wearing a Cubs jersey Leave Jessie alone you meanie. |
Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:04 pm ] |
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Oh the irony of the overt self-aggrandizing anti-Bernstein circlejerk exceeding that of its genesis (i.e., Bernstein's level of overt self-aggrandizing), never mind the predictability of both. That said, White Sox fans should be so fortunate as to have Jessie Rogers show up in an ill-fitting Cubs jersey. |
Author: | billypootons [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:13 pm ] |
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Zizou wrote: He'll have Julian Green coaching him up. Some Dearick Rose talk today? Ankles. Ice. Hospital. Next Grant Hill. i chuckled while watching aubrun-ole miss sat. night the espn scroll at the bottom of the screen said rose was out [ankles]... had never seen ankles plural as an injury |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:09 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: RFDC wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: Someone should ask him if he will have final say over the batting order, or if he will have to bat Baez in the 2-spot every game as I believe Renteria was forced to do. Who said Renteria was forced to do that? Bruce Levine: "The Cubs management group put Baez in the No. 2 hole of the batting order and have not wavered on that decision, regardless of the quality of the young player’s at-bats." Has Bruce's source confirmed that a Maddon deal is done yet or is he still sticking with nothing is happening? Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine 2h2 hours ago 5 year deal for Joe Maddon 0 replies 14 retweets 12 favorites Reply Retweet14 Favorite12 More |
Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:14 pm ] |
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Don Tiny wrote: Oh the irony of the overt self-aggrandizing anti-Bernstein circlejerk exceeding that of its genesis (i.e., Bernstein's level of overt self-aggrandizing), never mind the predictability of both. That said, White Sox fans should be so fortunate as to have Jessie Rogers show up in an ill-fitting Cubs jersey. Jesse isn't fat. It may be ill fitting because he fits into child sizes. |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:28 pm ] |
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Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein 3m3 minutes ago "Autocratic," "confluence" and "ameliorate" so far from #Maddon. |
Author: | Smarmystein [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:31 pm ] |
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Maddon: "Don't ever permit the pressure to exceed the pleasure" of this game. "This is baseball. It's a game an entertainment." That counts Bernstein out! |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:36 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein 3m3 minutes ago "Autocratic," "confluence" and "ameliorate" so far from #Maddon. I made a point of listening after the Emery and Trestman hiring pressers. I will pass on this one. I don't think I can stomach Bernsie's opinions on this. |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:36 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein 3m3 minutes ago "Autocratic," "confluence" and "ameliorate" so far from #Maddon. I made a point of listening after the Emery and Trestman hiring pressers. I will pass on this one. I don't think I can stomach Bernsie's opinions on this. Tim PumpkinSpiceHair @TimBaffoe 35s35 seconds ago Maddon is crapping all over the grind it out, lunchpail narrative, and it's so awesome. |
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