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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
the top players at that position always seem to be narcissistic Complaining about Marshall is complaining about Bryant is complaining about Gordon is complaining about Jackson, etc |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
His teams never win and he wears out his welcome quickly. He has made a career of putting up great statistics on horrible teams. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
jerry rice was such a drama queen. |
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| Author: | DannyB [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Nothing tops track stars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LymeOcJyJtg |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Hatchetman wrote: jerry rice was such a drama queen. He was in a lot of ways |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
I don't care what he does in the bedroom. I don't remember him saying much when he played. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
good dolphin wrote: Hatchetman wrote: jerry rice was such a drama queen. He was in a lot of ways Right. And he was a total PITA in Oakland. I think this is true about WR's they are not all perfect guys. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:44 pm ] |
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good dolphin wrote: Hatchetman wrote: jerry rice was such a drama queen. He was in a lot of ways With Trestman, go figure. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Tommy Waddle didn't make no trouble. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Hatchetman wrote: I don't care what he does in the bedroom. I don't remember him saying much when he played. You missed his Raider days and complaints about Trestman. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
I do recall that when Trestman was hired here. I wasn't really paying attention to raider football back in 1996 or whenever the hell that was. |
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| Author: | MajorKong [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
There's no way that they didn't know what they were getting in Marshall. Their biggest concern had to have been that his off the field (legal) problems would eclipse his on the field production- which hasn't happened. In terms of their lack of success, Brandon Marshall being a big baby is foreseeable and minuscule compared to their other obvious deficiencies. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
MajorKong wrote: There's no way that they didn't know what they were getting in Marshall. Their biggest concern had to have been that his off the field (legal) problems would eclipse his on the field production- which hasn't happened. In terms of their lack of success, Brandon Marshall being a big baby is foreseeable and minuscule compared to their other obvious deficiencies. They knew he was a three year rental.They will regret if they bring him back next year. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Hatchetman wrote: I don't care what he does in the bedroom. I don't remember him saying much when he played. believe that the day after the super bowl, instead of celebrating, he told the world he should have been mvp and did not win it because he is black |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
I was probably too young to remember but was he right? |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Those were the racist 1980s. We've come a long way. Now, if it's even between a black and a white player, there is no way they'd give the Super Bowl MVP to the white player. I'm proud of that progress. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
What was the last team to win a Super Bowl with a Top 2 or 3 Wide Receiver? Colts? Soon to be a decade ago. And before that? The Rams? |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Wasn't Colston a top 3 receiver the year the Saints won it? Jennings was a top 3 receiver when the Packers won it. I know the Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl when they went 16-0 but Moss had the best WR year ever that season. 25 TDs. Bottom line, you need a great receiver. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:52 pm ] |
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Beardown wrote: Wasn't Colston a top 3 receiver the year the Saints won it? Jennings was a top 3 receiver when the Packers won it. I know the Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl when they went 16-0 but Moss had the best WR year ever that season. 25 TDs. Bottom line, you need a great receiver. While you can argue Colston and Jennings, I can list the past 20 years of Super Bowl champions. Trust me...you don't want me to. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:54 pm ] |
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Usually the top 2 or 3 receivers are such because they have a HOF QB. So that's more important. Look at how Jennings has sucked since he went to the Vikings. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:05 pm ] |
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Beardown wrote: Usually the top 2 or 3 receivers are such because they have a HOF QB. So that's more important. Look at how Jennings has sucked since he went to the Vikings. Doesn't that hurt your argument more? Now suddenly teams have a HOF QB and a Top 3 WR and still cannot win Super Bowls? |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
KDdidit wrote: good dolphin wrote: Hatchetman wrote: jerry rice was such a drama queen. He was in a lot of ways With Trestman, go figure. Twice. Trestman got fired in SF after two years in the 90's as well. IIRC it was because he couldn't communicate with his players (Rice & Young). |
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| Author: | BD [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
Marshall has not played well this season, but I have a difficult blaming him for the issues vs. the Cutler turnovers, the defensive play and scheme, and Trestman's lack of leadership. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marshall Is No Different Than Any Other Elite WR |
immessedup17 wrote: Beardown wrote: Usually the top 2 or 3 receivers are such because they have a HOF QB. So that's more important. Look at how Jennings has sucked since he went to the Vikings. Doesn't that hurt your argument more? Now suddenly teams have a HOF QB and a Top 3 WR and still cannot win Super Bowls? No. HOF QBs can make good WRs great. They can't make bad or average receivers great. Bad QBs can make good WRs average or even bad. |
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