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Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Does anybody at the Score question B&B?

I'm not trying to be a jag. Not joking either. This is an honest question. Drinky and/or Tanny, I'd actually appreciate it if you would answer.

I hear the intro coming back from the 3pm update. Where Bernstein says what he's hearing from his source. Then Terry follows by talking about his source and literally repeating exactly what Bernstein just said. Tanny actually cued that up. Which means he obviously heard it. Do you think he said to himself, "Wow that's a little weird."

Some pointed this out yesterday. Where Terry agreed with Mannelly yesterday. Saying that he thought that the Culter decision was made by Emery to keep Jay healthy. Then a little later Dan said that his source said that this was Trestman's decision and it was done to as a "Fuck You" to Emery. At which Terry said, "That's what my guy said, too." WHAT? :lol:

To drinky, Tanny, Mitch or anybody else at the Score:

If you guys have an ounce of intelligence, curiosity or an ability to detect bullshit, I would think that you guys would question B&B. Not publicly. Of the air, of course After you hear this how could you not? Do you? Do you not care? I mean the producers attitude is "I just want to play sound bites, answer the phones and collect my check every 2 weeks", I would actually be cool with that answer. If Mitch's attitude is "I just want to come to work, hide under my desk for 8 hours and collect my check every 2 weeks" I'd be cool with that too. At least it would be them saying "I know, I just don't care."

I'm just curious if you guys are aware of what B&B are doing. It just offends my sensibilities that nobody over at the Score realizes what's going on. That can't be the case. Or can it? That's all

Thanks.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:59 pm ]
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I think they get into the studio five minutes before the show starts and leave five minutes after it ends without any time for questioning

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:17 pm ]
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Here's what we'll do. Score people are obviously scared to publicly call out the powerful B&B. If they did, they'd be fired faster than Bernstein turning around a 95 mph fastball.

So anybody from the Score can PM me and tell me they are aware that B&B are liars with regards to their reporting. I will not reveal your name. In fact, you don't even have to give me your name. I'll just report back to the board that people at the Score are aware. Deal? Good.

I'll bet I get a couple of PMs. I'm sure B&B have lots of enemies at the Score.

Author:  redskingreg [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:20 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
I'm not trying to be a jag.


Understandable. Some things just happen naturally.

Author:  Smarmystein [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:31 pm ]
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Don't forget to tell Santa what you want for Christmas too...

Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:42 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Here's what we'll do. Score people are obviously scared to publicly call out the powerful B&B. If they did, they'd be fired faster than Bernstein turning around a 95 mph fastball.

So anybody from the Score can PM me and tell me they are aware that B&B are liars with regards to their reporting. I will not reveal your name. In fact, you don't even have to give me your name. I'll just report back to the board that people at the Score are aware. Deal? Good.

I'll bet I get a couple of PMs. I'm sure B&B have lots of enemies at the Score.


But we dont need validation from WSCR employees. If listeners know they are full of shit liars, so does everyone at the station.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:46 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Here's what we'll do. Score people are obviously scared to publicly call out the powerful B&B. If they did, they'd be fired faster than Bernstein turning around a 95 mph fastball.

So anybody from the Score can PM me and tell me they are aware that B&B are liars with regards to their reporting. I will not reveal your name. In fact, you don't even have to give me your name. I'll just report back to the board that people at the Score are aware. Deal? Good.

I'll bet I get a couple of PMs. I'm sure B&B have lots of enemies at the Score.


But we dont need validation from WSCR employees. If listeners know they are full of shit liars, so does everyone at the station.


I'd like validation. Score people are stupid. Especially Score producers. They might now know.

There you go Score producers, you're chance to prove to Chicago that you're not stupid. Send me a PM saying you are aware of the B&B lies.

Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:51 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Here's what we'll do. Score people are obviously scared to publicly call out the powerful B&B. If they did, they'd be fired faster than Bernstein turning around a 95 mph fastball.

So anybody from the Score can PM me and tell me they are aware that B&B are liars with regards to their reporting. I will not reveal your name. In fact, you don't even have to give me your name. I'll just report back to the board that people at the Score are aware. Deal? Good.

I'll bet I get a couple of PMs. I'm sure B&B have lots of enemies at the Score.


But we dont need validation from WSCR employees. If listeners know they are full of shit liars, so does everyone at the station.


I'd like validation. Score people are stupid. Especially Score producers. They might now know.
There you go Score producers, you're chance to prove to Chicago that you're not stupid. Send me a PM saying you are aware of the B&B lies.


None of them like Berns. They resent him.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:21 pm ]
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Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.

It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.

Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.

Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:35 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.

It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.

Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.


I dont get the passive apathetic leadership either. Its a shame because The Score could and should be so much better. The entire lineup is unlistenable for me.

Author:  Chus [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:44 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.

It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.

Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.


I dont get the passive apathetic leadership either. Its a shame because The Score could and should be so much better. The entire lineup is unlistenable for me.


Yet you listen to B&B everyday.

Author:  El Gallo Negro [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:00 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.

It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.

Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.



Why should anyone be offended? This is very simple, B & B are not journalists. They are radio personalities, their job isn't to enlighten anyone or "get a scoop". Their only job is to entertain you and if you aren't, then... DON'T LISTEN!

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:07 pm ]
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Fine. By that logic, let's have radio personalities do false reports on athletes cheating on their wives. No big deal. They're entertainers.

When they're just talking sports, they're entertainers. They're not journalist? Fine. Though I would argue when they give reports on "alleged" sourced information, they are. It doesn't matter what you call them. I don't think you should lie on the radio. Does that make sense to you? Call me a prude if you want. But in your world it's fine to lie if you're a talk show host. You shouldn't lie if you report something in a newspaper. It's OK to lie if you report something on the radio. Gotcha. Cool.

Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:27 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.
It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.
Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.

I dont get the passive apathetic leadership either. Its a shame because The Score could and should be so much better. The entire lineup is unlistenable for me.


Yet you listen to B&B everyday.


Ocasionally I tune in, but most of the time I listen to The Game or Dahl.

Author:  Chus [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:31 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Chus wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.
It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.
Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.

I dont get the passive apathetic leadership either. Its a shame because The Score could and should be so much better. The entire lineup is unlistenable for me.


Yet you listen to B&B everyday.


Ocasionally I tune in, but most of the time I listen to The Game or Dahl.


You have a lot to say about them. You listen a lot more than occasionally.

Author:  spmack [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:37 pm ]
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What's the PM tally count so far, Beardown?

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:44 pm ]
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Because Beardown, its all part of their bit. Its basically the local sports version of TMZ. Do you question the smut ads when you walk past them at the grocery store? Of course not. You just say, "oh, Oprah has a secret third tit!" Then you move on with your life. Same thing here. I get a laugh out of these guys saying things like, "hockey fans are all racist." Its funny! But it also means they have no credibility at all when they throw around sources.

Author:  SirTinkleButton [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:51 pm ]
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Does Hub count? Around 8:35, while talking to Dan Wiederer, he took a subtle shot at Bernstein. He said something along the lines of " Some people want to report it as fact (that Trestman is fired) when it's not a fact yet. It may happen, but I can't report it as fact just yet."

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:58 pm ]
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El Gallo Negro wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Like I said before, it's sports, nobody is gonna die. But it does offend me that nobody at the Score is offended. Especially the bosses, Mitch and Zim.

How can you listen to Terry say one thing and then say the opposite thing minutes later to rubber stamp Bernstein's sourced information. That's amazing to me. I know if I were producing, I'd ask Terry about that. I'd actually play back the contradiction to him.

It's just a shame that everybody over there is either intimidated by B&B and/or just want to get through the day and go home. It's just wrong. Especially the actual reporters at the station. They should be offended. I don't expect much from the producers. As I said earlier, they're dim bulbs that probably don't even recognize it.

Much like Will McAvoy's character in The Newsroom, I'm on a mission to civilize sports radio. Mitch and Zim won't do it. Maybe I can shame them into it.



Why should anyone be offended? This is very simple, B & B are not journalists. They are radio personalities, their job isn't to enlighten anyone or "get a scoop". Their only job is to entertain you and if you aren't, then... DON'T LISTEN!


Yup, its what I do.

I will make my voice heard here, as I do want MY SPORTS STATION to improve. Bernstein can claim he made the station smarter, but I disagree, You can rip a guy like North all you want, but when ranted and fought with someone it was because he beleived in something with a true convicton. Right or wrong, his fight was true. These fake stories and fake fights by Bernstein really bring down the station over the long haul.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:03 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
What's the PM tally count so far, Beardown?


No. Not yet.

You know what, you gave me an idea, Spmack.

Nobody at the Score knows me. So they wouldn't PM me. I wouldn't give up their names, but they don't know that. They don't trust me. Fine.

CSFMB, I'm enlisting you. You know Score people, right? Through twitter, facebook or real life. You know people, Spmack, right?

So here it is, Score people. Tell the people you know here. Through Social media or in person.

The posters here will report back in this very thread. They'll keep it anonymous if you wish, of course. You wouldn't give it to them if you didn't trust them. Give a story of the length at which they go to spread their bullshit stories if you wish.

Like I said, I'm not looking for glory. I just want the truth!!!!! I'm on a mission to civilize. So go to work, CSFMB. Let's get this!!!

Score people: Here is your chance. You no longer have to live in fear of B&B. And you can get the revenge that you never thought was possible.

Thanks and Godspeed.

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:04 pm ]
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I don't know if I agree that he is bringing down the station. Its just that he and Boers attract a certain type of listener. That type of listener will likely always listen because the show will always be about sports entertainment, almost being sports shock jocks.

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:12 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I don't know if I agree that he is bringing down the station. Its just that he and Boers attract a certain type of listener. That type of listener will likely always listen because the show will always be about sports entertainment, almost being sports shock jocks.


They definitely have older guys calling in, which I think represents the listeners. I do think there is an expectation that the station is the voice of the fans and the fans should be able to speak out. Thus many of these callers are long time disgruntled Bears fans. I compare Bernstein right now to the political experts who talk down to those who have a job and dont study every single vote and actions of those representing them. Could not imagine making minimum wage, working 50 hours, raising kids, dealing with lifes other issues and then having some shithead yell at me about going to meet me local state representatives and get involved. lol

there is also a bit of Danny playing the bully. Maybe all those years of being mocked and not being able to play sports at Deerfield HS have surfaced in the ability to hangup on people?

Dan is nothing like it when you talk to him, he tries to be overwhelmingly nice to everyone. Not even any good ball busting, so you know the niceness isnt genuine, but thats how he rolls.

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:22 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I don't know if I agree that he is bringing down the station. Its just that he and Boers attract a certain type of listener. That type of listener will likely always listen because the show will always be about sports entertainment, almost being sports shock jocks.


They definitely have older guys calling in, which I think represents the listeners. I do think there is an expectation that the station is the voice of the fans and the fans should be able to speak out. Thus many of these callers are long time disgruntled Bears fans. I compare Bernstein right now to the political experts who talk down to those who have a job and dont study every single vote and actions of those representing them. Could not imagine making minimum wage, working 50 hours, raising kids, dealing with lifes other issues and then having some shithead yell at me about going to meet me local state representatives and get involved. lol

there is also a bit of Danny playing the bully. Maybe all those years of being mocked and not being able to play sports at Deerfield HS have surfaced in the ability to hangup on people?

Dan is nothing like it when you talk to him, he tries to be overwhelmingly nice to everyone. Not even any good ball busting, so you know the niceness isnt genuine, but thats how he rolls.


The political expert analogy is spot on.

I've had the same experience. In person, he has told me much of the stuff is a bit. They are entertainers, like Marilyn Manson.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:29 pm ]
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It's a bit? That's what he tells people in public. That saves him. He's scared when he doesn't have the security of that score studio, his scared boss, the parrot that is Boers, the hang up button, the dim witted producers and the transition kiss-ass host that says "Hi ya Dan, Hi Uncle Teary, really, really nice to see you guys, you had a really, really, really great show today, I'm gonna repeat everything you said for my half hour show unless my intro takes all the time." I get that. That makes sense. He's a pussy (Women are strong, Bernstein, I know, still a good word.)

But you still can't lie and say it's a bit. That's the issue here.

Author:  Beardown [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:20 pm ]
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You know what makes it more galling?

The fact that Bernstein lectures Chicago reporters on how to do it properly?

That mean anything to Tanny or drinky?

Tanny and drinky: Nope. Just shooting listeners, answereing phoness. That's all we do. We're dumb ass crackers. That's why we're producers.

Beardown: Gotcha. Cool. Nothing you can do anyway. You could prove they're lying, take the evidence to you boss and they'd say, "answer phones and shoot listeners". I understand.

Author:  Beardown [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:11 pm ]
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Breaking News: As of right now, nobody at the Score has gone rogue. No PMs. Nobody is willing to break bad on B&B. Fear factor is strong. How are you guys doing? Anything?

Author:  No Clever Moniker [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:26 pm ]
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My sources, who are both broad and intimate, break bad on them at every opportunity. The rest of the local working media that I know are just generally derisive. My medical contacts want me to get some help, my legal sources want to change the subject or ignore me, and the two accountants I know know the accountants they know (one of them) and just hold to some omertà that I won't mess with until after April 15.

Author:  Beardown [ Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:26 pm ]
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How many meeting do they need?

Christ!!!

Meeting after the Packer game to determine who should be fired. Meeting before the Saints game to determine who should be fired. Now Danny reports a meeting happening right now to determine who should get fired. But they never figure it out.

Isn't the purpose of the meeting to come up with a conclusion. Not the Bears. They meet to plan the next meeting.

This is all assuming Dan's report of meetings are correct. They're probably not.

The only one that was legit was the Packers game meeting. But Wayne Laravee reported that one.

Author:  No Clever Moniker [ Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:47 pm ]
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They know but they don't know. Their sources are as infallible as they are unique. Theirs is a pro team management insight so broad, so deep, so incisive, they dare not explain it. They are held in equal parts respect and contempt.

They are, the most intelligent sports talk radio hosts ever.

Author:  denisdman [ Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:55 pm ]
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