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Author:  No Clever Moniker [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:21 pm ]
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Meat, coming with both barrells on Beerstain and blasting him all over the place with his "Marshall Knowledge" and other things to being a raging rectum. Terry, sits on the sidelines at first but now is comig forth with his own brand weak sauce, after the fact b.s.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:28 pm ]
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rozner got a nice sly little dig in about how terry's basically been rubberstamping all of dan's bullshit for the last 10yrs, altho he phrased it as terry "ignoring" dan whereas the reality of the situation is that terry just lets dan grab his torch-n-pitchfork and lead the ALS into battle while he just "uh-huh"s along with dan en route to the easiest means of cashing his hefty paychecks.

terry was always a radio hero of mine so i'm biased and i'll give him the benefit of the doubt for the most part, but i really can't knock the guy for letting dan prattle/scream on with his zealotry while he just cruises along well compensated for being at ground zero of the social-justice/outrage express.

hell, my parents both recently retired and my mom won't let my dad listen to b&b on any open/audible radios because of "all the yelling" --- c'est la vie!

Author:  bigfan [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:35 pm ]
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WOW, Terry and Dan changing the story! 15 was gone, but now its because the interview went so well Ted and George have now said its OK if you want to keep him.

I agree with everything about 15. He is s complete asswipe, but he is a good WR and last I checked, they play football, not educational meetings.

Danny mumbling "fat front butt"....and thats good enough for me for the show <click> so much for the good business.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:54 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
I agree with everything about 15. He is s complete asswipe, but he is a good WR and last I checked, they play football, not educational meetings..


We should run down the list of the top 20 WR (by any standard) and determine which one is not an asswipe. I would bet it would be limited to the rookies and only because we don't know enough about them.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:56 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I agree with everything about 15. He is s complete asswipe, but he is a good WR and last I checked, they play football, not educational meetings..


We should run down the list of the top 20 WR (by any standard) and determine which one is not an asswipe. I would bet it would be limited to the rookies and only because we don't know enough about them.
Marshall has never played in a playoff game either. It's not like his production seems to result in anything worthwhile.

With or without Marshall they aren't a playoff team next year.

Author:  DannyB [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:57 pm ]
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1 Antonio Brown, WR PIT 129 182 1,698 13.2 13 63 19 106.1 1 568 85
2 Demaryius Thomas, WR DEN 111 184 1,619 14.6 11 86 25 101.2 0 647 69
3 Julio Jones, WR ATL 104 164 1,593 15.3 6 79 31 106.2 2 553 76
4 Jordy Nelson, WR GB 98 151 1,519 15.5 13 80 19 94.9 0 481 71
5 Emmanuel Sanders, WR DEN 101 141 1,404 13.9 9 48 24 87.8 1 370 69
6 T.Y. Hilton, WR IND 82 130 1,345 16.4 7 73 21 89.7 3 372 62
7 Golden Tate, WR DET 99 142 1,331 13.4 4 73 17 83.2 1 691 58
8 Dez Bryant, WR DAL 88 138 1,320 15.0 16 68 22 82.5 0 352 60
9 Jeremy Maclin, WR PHI 85 143 1,318 15.5 10 72 21 82.4 0 489 56
10 Odell Beckham Jr., WR NYG 91 132 1,305 14.3 12 80 16 108.8 0 427 57
11 Randall Cobb, WR GB 91 126 1,287 14.1 12 70 24 80.4 1 556 71
12 DeAndre Hopkins, WR HOU 76 127 1,210 15.9 6 76 20 75.6 2 383 57
13 DeSean Jackson, WR WSH 56 94 1,169 20.9 6 81 16 77.9 0 393 35
14 Alshon Jeffery, WR CHI 85 145 1,133 13.3 10 74 17 70.8 0 473 60
16 Calvin Johnson, WR DET 71 128 1,077 15.2 8 67 16 82.8 0 244 59
17 Steve Smith Sr., WR BAL 79 133 1,065 13.5 6 80 15 66.6 1 343 45
18 Anquan Boldin, WR SF 83 130 1,062 12.8 5 76 14 66.4 0 351 56
19 Mike Evans, WR TB 68 124 1,051 15.5 12 56 20 70.1 0 179 46
20 A.J. Green, WR CIN 69 116 1,041 15.1 6 81 13 80.1 2 298 46
Kelvin Benjamin, WR CAR 73 146 1,008 13.8 9 51 14 63.0 1 173 50
23 Vincent Jackson, WR TB 70 143 1,002 14.3 2 50 12 62.6 1 164 50

Author:  MelMarkon [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:08 pm ]
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Doesn't Berstein subscribe to Pros don't need motivation and game to game momentum doesn't exist. These are grown-azz men according to him. So why are they so weak and immature now that Marshall effects the locker room. Seems inconsistent to me.

If Marshall is the best option on the football field I am all for keeping him, if not release him(or try to get something for him).

Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:16 pm ]
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MelMarkon wrote:
These are grown-azz men according to him. So why are they so weak and immature now that Marshall effects the locker room. Seems inconsistent to me.

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Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:24 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I agree with everything about 15. He is s complete asswipe, but he is a good WR and last I checked, they play football, not educational meetings..


We should run down the list of the top 20 WR (by any standard) and determine which one is not an asswipe. I would bet it would be limited to the rookies and only because we don't know enough about them.
Marshall has never played in a playoff game either. It's not like his production seems to result in anything worthwhile..


Marshall is more frequently than not the best WR on the field in whatever game he plays. He does his job as well as almost anyone. I do not expect him to do the job of others

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:26 pm ]
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DannyB wrote:
1 Antonio Brown, WR PIT 129 182 1,698 13.2 13 63 19 106.1 1 568 85
2 Demaryius Thomas, WR DEN 111 184 1,619 14.6 11 86 25 101.2 0 647 69
3 Julio Jones, WR ATL 104 164 1,593 15.3 6 79 31 106.2 2 553 76
4 Jordy Nelson, WR GB 98 151 1,519 15.5 13 80 19 94.9 0 481 71 douchebag
5 Emmanuel Sanders, WR DEN 101 141 1,404 13.9 9 48 24 87.8 1 370 69
6 T.Y. Hilton, WR IND 82 130 1,345 16.4 7 73 21 89.7 3 372 62
7 Golden Tate, WR DET 99 142 1,331 13.4 4 73 17 83.2 1 691 58
8 Dez Bryant, WR DAL 88 138 1,320 15.0 16 68 22 82.5 0 352 60
9 Jeremy Maclin, WR PHI 85 143 1,318 15.5 10 72 21 82.4 0 489 56
10 Odell Beckham Jr., WR NYG 91 132 1,305 14.3 12 80 16 108.8 0 427 57
11 Randall Cobb, WR GB 91 126 1,287 14.1 12 70 24 80.4 1 556 71 douchebag
12 DeAndre Hopkins, WR HOU 76 127 1,210 15.9 6 76 20 75.6 2 383 57
13 DeSean Jackson, WR WSH 56 94 1,169 20.9 6 81 16 77.9 0 393 35
14 Alshon Jeffery, WR CHI 85 145 1,133 13.3 10 74 17 70.8 0 473 60
16 Calvin Johnson, WR DET 71 128 1,077 15.2 8 67 16 82.8 0 244 59
17 Steve Smith Sr., WR BAL 79 133 1,065 13.5 6 80 15 66.6 1 343 45
18 Anquan Boldin, WR SF 83 130 1,062 12.8 5 76 14 66.4 0 351 56
19 Mike Evans, WR TB 68 124 1,051 15.5 12 56 20 70.1 0 179 46
20 A.J. Green, WR CIN 69 116 1,041 15.1 6 81 13 80.1 2 298 46
Kelvin Benjamin, WR CAR 73 146 1,008 13.8 9 51 14 63.0 1 173 50
23 Vincent Jackson, WR TB 70 143 1,002 14.3 2 50 12 62.6 1 164 50



Here is an initial analysis

Author:  Rod [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:26 pm ]
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sinicalypse wrote:
MelMarkon wrote:
These are grown-azz men according to him. So why are they so weak and immature now that Marshall effects the locker room. Seems inconsistent to me.

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Wrong brand, sini!

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BEAR DOWN!

Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:28 pm ]
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nobody wants to fuck with a crazy person. you all know that.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:35 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Marshall is more frequently than not the best WR on the field in whatever game he plays. He does his job as well as almost anyone. I do not expect him to do the job of others
There are a lot of reasons to believe his statistics are fairly hollow.

Big numbers on average offenses. Last year was the anomaly.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:36 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Marshall is more frequently than not the best WR on the field in whatever game he plays. He does his job as well as almost anyone. I do not expect him to do the job of others
There are a lot of reasons to believe his statistics are fairly hollow.

Big numbers on average offenses. Last year was the anomaly.

I know this is not the most logical way to think about it, but I never want to go back to having 5 #3-#4 type receivers led by the likes of Johnny Knox and Devin Hester

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:38 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I know this is not the most logical way to think about it, but I never want to go back to having 5 #3-#4 type receivers led by the likes of Johnny Knox and Devin Hester
I don't either but those teams were better than the Bears with Marshall.

Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:39 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I know this is not the most logical way to think about it, but I never want to go back to having 5 #3-#4 type receivers led by the likes of Johnny Knox and Devin Hester
I don't either but those teams were better than the Bears with Marshall.

I think that has more to do with special teams and defense...

Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:42 pm ]
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oh boy. So now we're going to glorify Boozer? ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!!! What, you'd rather have Boozer than Gasol?

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:50 pm ]
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Is tranny up on podcast yet?

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:52 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote:
oh boy. So now we're going to glorify Boozer? ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!!! What, you'd rather have Boozer than Gasol?


Who is saying that ?!?

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:54 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Marshall is more frequently than not the best WR on the field in whatever game he plays. He does his job as well as almost anyone. I do not expect him to do the job of others
There are a lot of reasons to believe his statistics are fairly hollow.

Big numbers on average offenses. Last year was the anomaly.


I disagree.

Calvin Johnson's teams have sucked most of his career.

Author:  redskingreg [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:54 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
oh boy. So now we're going to glorify Boozer? ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!!! What, you'd rather have Boozer than Gasol?


Who is saying that ?!?


They were speaking fondly of Boozer, citing his professionalism during his nightly fourth quarter benchings.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:58 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I know this is not the most logical way to think about it, but I never want to go back to having 5 #3-#4 type receivers led by the likes of Johnny Knox and Devin Hester
I don't either but those teams were better than the Bears with Marshall.

I think that has more to do with special teams and defense...
Of course but so what?

The point is that Marshall has not resulted in years we will looking back on fondly.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:04 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Marshall is more frequently than not the best WR on the field in whatever game he plays. He does his job as well as almost anyone. I do not expect him to do the job of others
There are a lot of reasons to believe his statistics are fairly hollow.

Big numbers on average offenses. Last year was the anomaly.


I disagree.

Calvin Johnson's teams have sucked most of his career.
Made the playoffs twice though. Marshall never has.

There has to be some reason that Marshall has never played in a playoff game especially when he has played at such an elite level. To me, he is like one of those guys in the NBA that scores 20 ppg on a garbage team. All the while we have other elite receivers playing on elite offenses and elite teams. I won't miss the Brandon Marshall era Bears teams. Will you?

Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:06 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
oh boy. So now we're going to glorify Boozer? ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!!! What, you'd rather have Boozer than Gasol?


Who is saying that ?!?

I kid you not, they were saying that Boozer could better guard stretch fours and that he was at least willing to sit in the fourth quarter.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:18 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Marshall is more frequently than not the best WR on the field in whatever game he plays. He does his job as well as almost anyone. I do not expect him to do the job of others
There are a lot of reasons to believe his statistics are fairly hollow.

Big numbers on average offenses. Last year was the anomaly.


I disagree.

Calvin Johnson's teams have sucked most of his career.
Made the playoffs twice though. Marshall never has.

There has to be some reason that Marshall has never played in a playoff game especially when he has played at such an elite level. To me, he is like one of those guys in the NBA that scores 20 ppg on a garbage team. All the while we have other elite receivers playing on elite offenses and elite teams. I won't miss the Brandon Marshall era Bears teams. Will you?


I'd remember the offense two years ago in the same way I remember the Kramer-Graham offense. Each were a lot of fun and different than the sense of doom created by a plodding offense in just about every other Bear era

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:36 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I'd remember the offense two years ago in the same way I remember the Kramer-Graham offense. Each were a lot of fun and different than the sense of doom created by a plodding offense in just about every other Bear era
Winning is fun, and Marshall's teams for some reason don't win.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:46 pm ]
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Jay Cutler is the cancer. Marshall is just a WR.

Author:  Reared on the Score [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:13 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Is tranny up on podcast yet?


It's up. I'm not even going to listen because I get uncomfortable with confrontation :oops:

Or because it sounds like a typical argument where Bernstein is wrong but the adversary can't pin him down, and we all lose.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:16 pm ]
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Reared on the Score wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Is tranny up on podcast yet?


It's up. I'm not even going to listen because I get uncomfortable with confrontation :oops:

Or because it sounds like a typical argument where Bernstein is wrong but the adversary can't pin him down, and we all lose.

Well, Speigel did pin him down. Bernstein just went with I'm still right. So yes, everyone did lose. :lol:

Author:  billypootons [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:02 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
DannyB wrote:
1 Antonio Brown, WR PIT 129 182 1,698 13.2 13 63 19 106.1 1 568 85
2 Demaryius Thomas, WR DEN 111 184 1,619 14.6 11 86 25 101.2 0 647 69
3 Julio Jones, WR ATL 104 164 1,593 15.3 6 79 31 106.2 2 553 76
4 Jordy Nelson, WR GB 98 151 1,519 15.5 13 80 19 94.9 0 481 71
5 Emmanuel Sanders, WR DEN 101 141 1,404 13.9 9 48 24 87.8 1 370 69
6 T.Y. Hilton, WR IND 82 130 1,345 16.4 7 73 21 89.7 3 372 62
7 Golden Tate, WR DET 99 142 1,331 13.4 4 73 17 83.2 1 691 58
8 Dez Bryant, WR DAL 88 138 1,320 15.0 16 68 22 82.5 0 352 60
9 Jeremy Maclin, WR PHI 85 143 1,318 15.5 10 72 21 82.4 0 489 56
10 Odell Beckham Jr., WR NYG 91 132 1,305 14.3 12 80 16 108.8 0 427 57
11 Randall Cobb, WR GB 91 126 1,287 14.1 12 70 24 80.4 1 556 71
12 DeAndre Hopkins, WR HOU 76 127 1,210 15.9 6 76 20 75.6 2 383 57
13 DeSean Jackson, WR WSH 56 94 1,169 20.9 6 81 16 77.9 0 393 35
14 Alshon Jeffery, WR CHI 85 145 1,133 13.3 10 74 17 70.8 0 473 60
16 Calvin Johnson, WR DET 71 128 1,077 15.2 8 67 16 82.8 0 244 59
17 Steve Smith Sr., WR BAL 79 133 1,065 13.5 6 80 15 66.6 1 343 45
18 Anquan Boldin, WR SF 83 130 1,062 12.8 5 76 14 66.4 0 351 56
19 Mike Evans, WR TB 68 124 1,051 15.5 12 56 20 70.1 0 179 46
20 A.J. Green, WR CIN 69 116 1,041 15.1 6 81 13 80.1 2 298 46
Kelvin Benjamin, WR CAR 73 146 1,008 13.8 9 51 14 63.0 1 173 50
23 Vincent Jackson, WR TB 70 143 1,002 14.3 2 50 12 62.6 1 164 50



Here is an initial analysis


the bolded are the guys i;d defnitely rather have than marshall for next season

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