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Author:  Hayden Fry's Mustache [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  3/6: See, the people who agreed with Bernstine look smart

On today’s show, Danny Boy will pound his chest and possibly his sources in the Brandon Marshall deal. Ryan Pace got a late round pick for him! He also re-signed Jimmy Clausen! Are we once again entering the Golden Age of Chicago GM’s?

The boys will also talk some Doug McDermott and why he’s not seeing the floor. This is completely normal for them, since they have always been shills for the slow white guy sitting at the end of an NBA bench.

In baseball news, the Cubs split squad blew a late inning lead yesterday. I think deep down we all knew Theo’s plan wasn’t going to work.

It’s Friday!!! Listen to this show in between servings of foie gras and fava beans.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:59 am ]
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Author:  Brick [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:59 am ]
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Meatpants should start drinking now.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:05 pm ]
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Dan should predict no more free Blackhawks shit for his son. He'll win that one too.

Author:  Reared on the Score [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:10 pm ]
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I'd prefer Marshall back-patting over their lazy Bulls talk. Eh, actually are both skippable options.

Author:  Ed_from_Lisle [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:16 pm ]
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Hayden Fry's Mustache wrote:
In baseball news, the Cubs split squad blew a late inning lead yesterday. I think deep down we all knew Theo’s plan wasn’t going to work.


:lol:

Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:21 pm ]
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Hayden Fry's Mustache wrote:
The boys will also talk some Doug McDermott and why he’s not seeing the floor. This is completely normal for them, since they have always been shills for the slow white guy sitting at the end of an NBA bench.



I just want to highlight this for anyone who might actually believe bernstein isn't running PR for the Bulls front office.

I actually think they're correct here. I've always believed McDermott can score in the league if given the chance. Add the fact that they traded two first rounders to get him, and I can understand the front office frustration. But this position is the antithesis of the B&b basketball philosophy as constantly discussed on the show. McDermott should be dismissed as slow, tiny, and white and compared to Adam Morrison, Jimmer Fredette, and/or Luke Harangody. The fact that they are taking the opposite view in this single instance is frankly, quite jarring.

Author:  Franky T [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:25 pm ]
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To be fair, Terry was high on him going into the draft.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:26 pm ]
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I don't care for this dismantling of the offense

Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:36 pm ]
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Franky T wrote:
To be fair, Terry was high on him going into the draft.


I always took that to be a sarcastic joke, sort of like "Beckham Camp".

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:42 pm ]
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This mcbuckets pick is one of the Bulls most highly invested in years. It was a complete focus of the organization. I watched him a little closer than I would have his senior year due to this INSIDE INFORMATION!

And the development or lack thereof might be the biggest issue right now between Pax and Thibs.

Author:  Hussra [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:46 pm ]
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McBucketts is who he is. He's gone 0 for his last several games. This isn't some raw 19 year old, one year in college then drafted rookie. McDermott's older than a 1/3rd of the league.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:38 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Franky T wrote:
To be fair, Terry was high on him going into the draft.


I always took that to be a sarcastic joke, sort of like "Beckham Camp".
Not sure what you mean by it being a sarcastic joke. Boers was in both the Beckham and McBuckets camp. Beckham became a joke as it became obvious he wasn't very good.

Author:  pittmike [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:06 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Dan should predict no more free Blackhawks shit for his son. He'll win that one too.


:lol:

Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:07 pm ]
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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/06/bernstein-bears-brandon-marshall-likely-past-point-of-no-return/

Editor’s note: Less than an hour after this was posted, news broke that Brandon Marshall will be traded to the Jets. The column has since been updated to reflect that. Consider it an explanation of how everything developed leading up to today.

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At the end of last season, the Bears decided they’d had it with Brandon Marshall.

Amid the tension and chaos of firing a general manager and an entire coaching staff, sources indicated to 670 The Score that team ownership and upper management also came to the conclusion that dealing with Marshall wasn’t worth it, anymore — his divisiveness and selfish, unpredictable attention-grabbing no longer counterbalanced by enough actual value, particularly for a team exiting win-now territory and staring at a rebuild.

The Bears hired consultant Ernie Accorsi to lead their executive search and were soon wowed by the candidacy of Ryan Pace. As a condition of his hiring, Pace was given full control of the final call regarding the head coach and every spot on the roster, conditions discussed and agreed upon explicitly during their negotiations.

With that, Marshall’s future was in Pace’s hands. While previous opinions on him were expressed, the responsibility was transferred then to the newly minted GM to construct a team as he and his coach would see fit.

Prior to Friday morning’s news that Marshall will be traded to the Jets, sources said that Pace and John Fox were dismayed by Marshall’s very public insistence on continuing to fly to New York for his weekly television show, unpleasantly surprised at his on-camera job pandering to Ravens coach John Harbaugh and disappointed that he chose to reveal information from a private meeting at a personal press conference only hours after it occurred. Perhaps most significant, however, were their conversations with teammates who found support for Marshall’s continued presence to be minimal, at best. Per one source, “No player jumped forward to say, ‘We have to have this guy.'”

The guys in charge now are all about trust and dedication to the job. Pace made that clear in his oblique comments when previously asked directly about Marshall, saying, “Football needs to be the No. 1 priority.” Marshall’s words and actions have long called such commitment into question and made it clear that the team’s life with him week to week carried a risk factor that was potentially distracting and entirely unnecessary.

Once the Bears’ efforts to shop him on the trade market became public, there were conflicting forces at work that set this endgame down an inevitable path — the parting of ways.

Marshall knew he wasn’t wanted, and he knew that everyone knew he wasn’t wanted. Bringing him back to the locker room under such circumstances would have been asking for trouble from someone already proven to be so emotionally fragile and mercurial. It was hard enough to take his childish, phony leadership seriously before and would’ve been utterly impossible now, if not outright silly.

Meanwhile, other teams in the league were aware of all of this. Any potential trade partner could play this chess game out enough moves to see that it probably would’ve ended up with Marshall released and able to sign somewhere on new, friendlier terms.

It was up to Pace to create a market by selling interested teams on the value of exclusivity — that it was worth giving up a middling asset to avoid the uncertainty of Marshall’s free agency, provided he’d agree on a restructuring of his lucrative contract. Pace sold the Jets on that idea, prying a small asset away in exchange for an aging, expensive receiver with noted behavior issues.

It’s indeed a promising start for him and the Bears.


Author:  pittmike [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:14 pm ]
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Will they talk about Ricketts comment this morning? There will be disappointment if they do not win the division this year. That is a benchmark and the owner out down a metric to be reached. If they do not do B&B go hard? A quandary for the summer.

Author:  billypootons [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:19 pm ]
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Quote:
disappointed that he chose to reveal information from a private meeting at a personal press conference only hours after it occurred.



so the bears are mad that marshall told the media about his meeting with them.... so in direct response they leaked news that and other disparraging comments about marshall to the media :) pot meet kettle

Author:  long time guy [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:21 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
This mcbuckets pick is one of the Bulls most highly invested in years. It was a complete focus of the organization. I watched him a little closer than I would have his senior year due to this INSIDE INFORMATION!

And the development or lack thereof might be the biggest issue right now between Pax and Thibs.


I started a thread about this a few weeks ago and most on the board disagreed. GMs want to see high draft picks play. Thibs refusal to play young players unless he absolutely has to has to be an issue for management.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:32 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Franky T wrote:
To be fair, Terry was high on him going into the draft.


I always took that to be a sarcastic joke, sort of like "Beckham Camp".
Not sure what you mean by it being a sarcastic joke. Boers was in both the Beckham and McBuckets camp. Beckham became a joke as it became obvious he wasn't very good.


No. The "love" for Beckham was never sincere. It was a Lettermanesque way of ridiculing the White Sox.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:45 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
bigfan wrote:
This mcbuckets pick is one of the Bulls most highly invested in years. It was a complete focus of the organization. I watched him a little closer than I would have his senior year due to this INSIDE INFORMATION!

And the development or lack thereof might be the biggest issue right now between Pax and Thibs.


I started a thread about this a few weeks ago and most on the board disagreed. GMs want to see high draft picks play. Thibs refusal to play young players unless he absolutely has to has to be an issue for management.


Thibs is in a little bit different spot with Mirotic in his rookie year as well.

Author:  Reared on the Score [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:52 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Franky T wrote:
To be fair, Terry was high on him going into the draft.


I always took that to be a sarcastic joke, sort of like "Beckham Camp".
Not sure what you mean by it being a sarcastic joke. Boers was in both the Beckham and McBuckets camp. Beckham became a joke as it became obvious he wasn't very good.


No. The "love" for Beckham was never sincere. It was a Lettermanesque way of ridiculing the White Sox.


I'm on Zippy's side in recollecting this one.

The way things are going, McDermott will be 'not good for white basketball' soon enough.

Author:  Seacrest [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:01 pm ]
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Seacrest predicted Pace had total control over football decisions.

Seacrest wins again.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:12 pm ]
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I guess we all hear things differently. Some people hear dan romanticize Calderon from his "childhood" (he was 20 when Calderon was playing in Chicagi) and believe hes a big Sox fan. I hear it for what it us- an attempt to rificule the Sox by juxtaposing a journeyman Sox guy against Cub greats like Billy and Ernie.

Author:  Chus [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:13 pm ]
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Is anybody going to the remote? It's right in Douchebag's back yard.

Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:14 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
Is anybody going to the remote? It's right in Douchebag's back yard.

I live 2 blocks from there, but in Indy for Bulls/Pacers tonight.

Author:  pittmike [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:18 pm ]
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Did I see they are playing at ND?

Author:  City of Fools [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:21 pm ]
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Beckham was beloved by Terry. Beckham camp was Terry's way of excusing him out of such love after Dan soured on Beckham and started making fun of Terry, and concurrently Terry figured out Beckham wouldn't be that good. Their affection for Doug is real. I tried to get them to back off the love of that pick a while back and they didn't flinch. I compared him on air to Adam Morrison and nearly got laughed off the air. Which, it's a poor comparison, McBuckets is better. But it's the same mold. And that's the issue.

Author:  Smarmystein [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:24 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Chus wrote:
Is anybody going to the remote? It's right in Douchebag's back yard.

I live 2 blocks from there, but in Indy for Bulls/Pacers tonight.



too bad this isn't a joke... :lol:

Author:  pittmike [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:25 pm ]
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Someone please play the "this is going great" drop for this Dawson call in.

Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:29 pm ]
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BTW, Caliendo's fucking blows. It's hell on Earth. Mike Caliendo can go fuck himself.

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