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Author:  Reared on the Score [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:32 am ]
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TNT averaged 1.67 million viewers for its complete slate of games, marking the net’s lowest figure since the ’07-08 season. TNT’s games were down 12% from last season. For the net’s main Thursday night doubleheader window, TNT averaged 1.8 million viewers, down 5% from ’13-14. ESPN saw game viewership decline 10% compared to ’13-14, with the net’s average of 1.51 million viewers also marking a low point dating back to ’07-08. NBA TV drew 291,000 average viewers for 98 games in ’14-15, marking the net’s lowest figure since ’10-11 (-8% from last season).


http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail ... ience.aspx

Of course not, the NBA is fan-tastic. But given how Bernstein latched on to ratings as a 'concern' for the NCAA I wonder if he'll do the same with this info.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:33 am ]
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:lol:
Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:36 am ]
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Lots of down years for traditional powers. People talk a big game about wanting to see new teams on the national stage like the Hawks or Warriors but then don't commit.
Author:  Matches Malone [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:38 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Lots of down years for traditional powers. People talk a big game about wanting to see new teams on the national stage like the Hawks or Warriors but then don't commit.


Anybody else remember the Shark / Kid Cairo debate about the Spurs and ABC not wanting them in the finals? Good times. Good times.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:39 am ]
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They need more scoring. They should outlaw zone and man to man defense.
Author:  spmack [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:42 am ]
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No Kobe, Melo, KD, Westbrook, D-Wade.


No "team to hate" like it was for a few years with LeBron down in Miami.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:44 am ]
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Matches Malone wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Lots of down years for traditional powers. People talk a big game about wanting to see new teams on the national stage like the Hawks or Warriors but then don't commit.


Anybody else remember the Shark / Kid Cairo debate about the Spurs and ABC not wanting them in the finals? Good times. Good times.

Remember? I still have the scar on my forehead from banging my head on the desk in exasperation.
Author:  8675309 [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:05 am ]
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Is the WNBA dying?
Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:08 am ]
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It's been dead to me for years.
Unwatchable.
Author:  spmack [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:10 am ]
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8675309 wrote:
Is the WNBA dying?

1,227 of your posts definitely did.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:45 am ]
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spmack wrote:
8675309 wrote:
Is the WNBA dying?

1,227 of your posts definitely did.

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Author:  redskingreg [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:49 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Lots of down years for traditional powers. People talk a big game about wanting to see new teams on the national stage like the Hawks or Warriors but then don't commit.


Anybody else remember the Shark / Kid Cairo debate about the Spurs and ABC not wanting them in the finals? Good times. Good times.

Remember? I still have the scar on my forehead from banging my head on the desk in exasperation.


I was wearing my Blackhawks hat at Mariano's last Saturday (big mistake). A guy walks up to me and says "How about that game last night? You know, they didn't want the 'Hawks to sweep, that's why it was like that." He was referring to the 6-2 game. I responded "They? The refs? You're saying the refs scored six goals?" He just walks away.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:17 pm ]
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i dont care what the ratings are, i freakin love the nba. its the most fun sport to watch. nfl is 'cooler' but the nba is just as much skill as it is sport
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:30 pm ]
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The NBA is a league with more jobs than talent.
Author:  Tall Midget [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:46 pm ]
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I've been watching more of the NBA playoffs this season than I have in any of the previous five years. Love me some Warriors--they play beautiful basketball.
Author:  long time guy [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:41 pm ]
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Golden State may be small market but there are no fans that are more loyal than they are. Atlanta is dead weight. They are a front runner that no one believes will win anything. They play a good brand of ball but they really are not that good. The first round has not really been as good as I thought it would be but the second round should be much more competitive.
Author:  IMU [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:48 pm ]
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Hmm. NBA is the fourth most popular sport among suburban youths.
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:56 pm ]
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wdelaney72 wrote:
It's been dead to me for years.
Unwatchable.


+1000.

I love college buckets though.
Author:  BD [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:03 pm ]
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Reared on the Score wrote:
Quote:
TNT averaged 1.67 million viewers for its complete slate of games, marking the net’s lowest figure since the ’07-08 season. TNT’s games were down 12% from last season. For the net’s main Thursday night doubleheader window, TNT averaged 1.8 million viewers, down 5% from ’13-14. ESPN saw game viewership decline 10% compared to ’13-14, with the net’s average of 1.51 million viewers also marking a low point dating back to ’07-08. NBA TV drew 291,000 average viewers for 98 games in ’14-15, marking the net’s lowest figure since ’10-11 (-8% from last season).


http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail ... ience.aspx

Of course not, the NBA is fan-tastic. But given how Bernstein latched on to ratings as a 'concern' for the NCAA I wonder if he'll do the same with this info.


If ESPN were the main provider of NBA coverage, I think he'd cover this for certain.
Author:  long time guy [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:04 pm ]
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NBA is much better than college basketball. College Hoops has actually been dead to me for yrs. The high school to the pros and one and done has rendered the college game useless. The quality of the college product stinks. It's interesting that you say that it is fourth among suburban youths. Suburbanites are hardly considered to be go to guys for cutting edge perspective.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:47 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Hmm. NBA is the fourth most popular sport among suburban youths.

Source?
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:57 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Hmm. NBA is the fourth most popular sport among suburban youths.


From my suburban perspective I would have to agree. Bears, Hawks, Cubs, Bulls.
Author:  redskingreg [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:29 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
IMU wrote:
Hmm. NBA is the fourth most popular sport among suburban youths.


From my suburban perspective I would have to agree. Bears, Hawks, Cubs, Bulls.


Just because Bulls rank fourth doesn't mean NBA does as well. You think people are watching random NHL games before they would give Warriors/Spurs a go?
Author:  IkeSouth [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:33 pm ]
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i dont know why people hate the nba so much. people love college ball around here, but they always say the nba is full of thugs, because they cant say geniuses anymore. they also say these thugs in the nba are lazy... i ask them how do the two leagues compare? college boys play like one a week and for half an hour, and anyone that exercises knows playing real games 3 times a week especially back to back games like they do in the nba is BRUTAL. it is a true testament to physical condition. if they ever look like theyre lazy its usually because they are tired from being so fucking active. all these fuckin people that tell me this shit couldnt run a 1/4 mile. fuckin people i swear to god
Author:  IMU [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:34 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote:
You think people are watching random NHL games before they would give Warriors/Spurs a go?

Yes.

Just among my work place...my friends...way more interest in NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs. The Hawks were a good catalyst for that...but that lead to interest in hockey as a sport, not just the home team. My facebook feed as a lot more people commenting on the NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs as well.
Author:  Scorehead [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:13 am ]
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IMU wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
You think people are watching random NHL games before they would give Warriors/Spurs a go?

Yes.

Just among my work place...my friends...way more interest in NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs. The Hawks were a good catalyst for that...but that lead to interest in hockey as a sport, not just the home team. My facebook feed as a lot more people commenting on the NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs as well.


Same here with our circle of friends, neighbors and co workers.
Author:  long time guy [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:34 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:
IMU wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
You think people are watching random NHL games before they would give Warriors/Spurs a go?

Yes.

Just among my work place...my friends...way more interest in NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs. The Hawks were a good catalyst for that...but that lead to interest in hockey as a sport, not just the home team. My facebook feed as a lot more people commenting on the NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs as well.


Same here with our circle of friends, neighbors and co workers.
Scorehead wrote:
IMU wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
You think people are watching random NHL games before they would give Warriors/Spurs a go?

Yes.

Just among my work place...my friends...way more interest in NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs. The Hawks were a good catalyst for that...but that lead to interest in hockey as a sport, not just the home team. My facebook feed as a lot more people commenting on the NHL playoffs than NBA playoffs as well.


Same here with our circle of friends, neighbors and co workers.


Its a small sample size. There is no way that hockey or even baseball for that matter is more popular than basketball. Domestically or especially globally basketball kills them. Lebron James is more recognizable than either hockey or baseball's most recognizable player.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:51 am ]
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The Blackhawks have made a huge jump in the last few years, but let's not confuse that with the NHL overtaking the NBA on any larger scale. The NHL can challenge the NBA in select battleground metros -- Philadelphia, Twin Cities, Boston, arguably Chicago these days -- but nationally and internationally, there's no contest.
Author:  IMU [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:05 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
Its a small sample size. There is no way that hockey or even baseball for that matter is more popular than basketball. Domestically or especially globally basketball kills them. Lebron James is more recognizable than either hockey or baseball's most recognizable player.

Baseball is definitely more popular than basketball in Chicago. I didn't think this was even a question. And probably nationally. I think Sunday Night Baseball kills Thursday night NBA.
Author:  IMU [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:06 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
internationally

Have you heard of Europe? Russia?
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