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Author: | conns7901 [ Wed May 27, 2015 10:44 am ] |
Post subject: | 5/27 Lebron Worship |
Hopefully the Sox game goes 18 innings. Bernstein: Look At What LeBron James Just Did By Dan Bernstein CBS Chicago Senior Columnist The happiest LeBron James has seemed in months was when Kendrick Perkins scored a basket last night. The best basketball player on Earth was already in sweats, on the sideline of a conference-clinching blowout, waving his arms in celebration of a clumsy, flailing bucket by perhaps the worst player in the NBA. James himself was a comfortable spectator at that point, earning a seat for the entire fourth quarter of the 118-88 mercy-killing of the Atlanta Hawks. The early exit meant he’d have to forego the achievement of averaging a triple-double for an entire playoff series, but he managed two other notable accomplishments: becoming the first player ever in the NBA to register a series with averages of at least 30 points, 11 rebounds and nine assists, and joining members of the 1966 Celtics in reaching five consecutive NBA Finals. He was enjoying it all last night during garbage time in a way he couldn’t up to that point in the playoffs. After he vetoed his coach’s play call, demanded the ball and buried a last-second shot from the corner to douse whatever flame was left burning inside the conflicted Bulls, he didn’t crack a smile. At the completion of his epic, 37-point, 18-rebound, 13-assist performance in game three against the Hawks, he could only drop to his knees in acute fatigue. Last night was James visibly and vocally appreciating his season’s body of work to this point, and we should, too. The Cavaliers are a plane soaring after getting the wings shot off, due only to the thrust of its engine. First Kevin Love departed with a separated shoulder, and then Kyrie Irving became a semi-functioning collection of leg injuries. James was left with a handful of castoffs from the Knicks, a young power forward who can’t really score, an undrafted Australian guard, and an overwhelmed cipher of a coach. And they are going to play for a title. Numbers fail to tell the complete story of what James has done in carrying this big bag of bums this far, having slung them over his shoulder and borne them here. First, he was involved in pushing for the season-saving trade that netted JR Smith, Iman Shumpert and Timofey Mozgov, the front office consulting with him specifically before making any moves. Then as David Blatt tried to catch up to a breakneck NBA pace that outstripped his comfort level both in games and between them, James carefully helped manage everything. He did so both directly when needed – actually taking over huddles at times early in the season, and indirectly by his tacit empowerment of assistant coach Tyronn Lue so that another voice could be better heard. In the vacuum created by Blatt’s lack of gravity and charisma, James has spoken for the Cavaliers in the media all season, too, understanding the nuanced messages that can be sent to opponents and teammates in a way that would make Pat Riley or Phil Jackson proud. On the court, one sees him moving the pieces around like he’s playing Stratego. He’s calling the play whether bringing the ball up or not, indicating who he wants screening for whom, and exactly where. Just as it looks like he’s trying to set himself up for an angle to attack the basket, he whistles another pinpoint diagonal pass for the wide open three-point look that he was arranging all along. We have long applied the phrase “He makes teammates better” to those who simply make their teammates open by their own drives to the hoop. James does plenty of that, to be sure, but in this case the phrase is true in a greater, more complicated sense than just the alpha scorer drawing attention. Because of the role he has played in creating and directing the team, he really has helped improve a roster of mostly spare parts. The knuckleheaded Smith is rebounding and defending, as well as being uncharacteristically aware of score and situation on offense. Mozgov is making difficult catches of all kinds of passes on hard dives after his tough screens and anchored the back of their defense, while Tristan Thompson and Matthew Dellevadova have played relentlessly. Shumpert has averaged 10.1 points and 5.4 rebounds in these playoffs, shooting .368 on three-pointers. And all this is still to say that it could very well end here. Last night’s bottle-popping locker room celebration seemed to understand that, with the Cavs trying to savor what they have done, knowing what awaits them – the rollicking basketball amusement park that is the Golden State Warriors, primed to finish off their own historic campaign. James knows it, stopping short even when given an easy chance for some excusable, in-the-moment braggadocio. “I will guarantee that we will play our asses off,” he said after the game. “At the end of the day, that’s all I can ask for. That’s all we can give.” |
Author: | YepImGary [ Wed May 27, 2015 10:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
I'm not saying I WANT to see Dan hit by a bus, just that knowing he was wouldn't affect my day in the slightest and might even put a spring in my step. |
Author: | Tad Queasy [ Wed May 27, 2015 10:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
I heard an interview yesterday morning on AM1000 with a guy who covers the NBA. For the life of me, I can't remember his name right now, but the host asked him about LeBron's low efficiency rating during the playoffs. The guy said that he HATED when people brought that up because when LeBron misses a shot it gives someone else on his team the opportunity to get a rebound and maybe even score, and then that improves their attitude and their confidence as they head down the court to play defense. I thought that perspective was...insane. That guy and Bernsie should start watching Cavs' games together. |
Author: | redskingreg [ Wed May 27, 2015 11:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
Can't believe he didn't spend that time opening his mail, whilst sipping a cup of coffee. |
Author: | Beardown [ Wed May 27, 2015 11:50 am ] |
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Bernstein: Lebron motha fuckin' James. He's good at basketball. Yet nobody seems to realize it. It's amazing. Boers: Who are you, Goff? Bernstein: No. Goff is me. Boers: Oh yeah. That's right. Goff: Hey!!!! Bernstein: Boers: |
Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Wed May 27, 2015 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
Funny how he admires Spoelstra as a coach -- someone who had much better supporting players and a younger, better LeBron -- but can't give an ounce of credit to Blatt, who is in charge of coaching this "bag of bums." |
Author: | Zizou [ Wed May 27, 2015 12:06 pm ] |
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The revolting fact is that this Lebron worship is not limited to our Daniel Farquart Bernstein. SIrius XM is free this month so I have been listening to Mad Dog Sports Radio and Bleacher Report Radio in the car. I've heard multiple hosts defending poor unappreciated Lebron. I still don't get why these jock sniffers need to defend him. And they are all condescending about it. It's a creepy, one-sided, pseudo-gay bromance. |
Author: | billypootons [ Wed May 27, 2015 2:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
5 finals in a row, that's impressive... this year's being the most impressive. i dont love the guy but i respect how great he is at basketball |
Author: | Reared on the Score [ Wed May 27, 2015 2:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
billypootons wrote: 5 finals in a row, that's impressive... this year's being the most impressive. i dont love the guy but i respect how great he is at basketball And this would be fine to me, too, except for some reason Dan can't understand the not-particularly-nuanced-opinion that you could acknowledge he's spectacular yet still find him to be an insufferable jackass. (LeBron I mean, not Dan. Dan hasn't been spectacular for about 5 years now, he can't lift his own 'bag of bums') |
Author: | pittmike [ Wed May 27, 2015 3:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
I think even though he loves Lebron that part of this has to be trolling. He has to be either trolling Jordan fans or just doing that hip to be counter thing. You simply cann be our age and not have Jordan love. |
Author: | billypootons [ Wed May 27, 2015 3:18 pm ] |
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pittmike wrote: I think even though he loves Lebron that part of this has to be trolling. He has to be either trolling Jordan fans or just doing that hip to be counter thing. You simply cann be our age and not have Jordan love. most of bernstein is a bit he keeps up because it works (gets ratings). he all but admitted that when making fun of a caller who told them this last week |
Author: | City of Fools [ Wed May 27, 2015 3:58 pm ] |
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pittmike wrote: I think even though he loves Lebron that part of this has to be trolling. He has to be either trolling Jordan fans or just doing that hip to be counter thing. You simply cann be our age and not have Jordan love. Dan has said quite clearly (as has Terry) that Jordan was the superior player. Multiple multiple times. |
Author: | Franky T [ Wed May 27, 2015 4:02 pm ] |
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City of Fools wrote: pittmike wrote: I think even though he loves Lebron that part of this has to be trolling. He has to be either trolling Jordan fans or just doing that hip to be counter thing. You simply cann be our age and not have Jordan love. Dan has said quite clearly (as has Terry) that Jordan was the superior player. Multiple multiple times. The two are not mutually exclusive. |
Author: | City of Fools [ Wed May 27, 2015 4:05 pm ] |
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Franky T wrote: City of Fools wrote: pittmike wrote: I think even though he loves Lebron that part of this has to be trolling. He has to be either trolling Jordan fans or just doing that hip to be counter thing. You simply cann be our age and not have Jordan love. Dan has said quite clearly (as has Terry) that Jordan was the superior player. Multiple multiple times. The two are not mutually exclusive. he does have Jordan love. |
Author: | ZephMarshack [ Wed May 27, 2015 4:17 pm ] |
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Reared on the Score wrote: billypootons wrote: 5 finals in a row, that's impressive... this year's being the most impressive. i dont love the guy but i respect how great he is at basketball And this would be fine to me, too, except for some reason Dan can't understand the not-particularly-nuanced-opinion that you could acknowledge he's spectacular yet still find him to be an insufferable jackass. (LeBron I mean, not Dan. Dan hasn't been spectacular for about 5 years now, he can't lift his own 'bag of bums') This exactly. Also while I'm all for recognizing Lebron's achievements in taking the current Cavs to the finals, I think it should also always be acknowledged what a trash heap the East has been during this unprecedented run of finals appearances. Recognizing poor quality goes both ways. |
Author: | City of Fools [ Wed May 27, 2015 4:32 pm ] |
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and there was the obligatory Michael Reinsdorf whisper to Dan that the Bulls are not screwing Tom over. |
Author: | City of Fools [ Wed May 27, 2015 4:34 pm ] |
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Terry in full repeat and wind sock mode today. He must not be well. |
Author: | Reared on the Score [ Wed May 27, 2015 4:40 pm ] |
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City of Fools wrote: and there was the obligatory Michael Reinsdorf whisper to Dan that the Bulls are not screwing Tom over. Not that I'm listening, but hopefully they see that it's in Reinsdorf's financial interest to let Thibs coach elsewhere ASAP to offset the money they owe him. They'd be screwing themselves by screwing him out of a job. |
Author: | good dolphin [ Wed May 27, 2015 5:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
billypootons wrote: 5 finals in a row, that's impressive... this year's being the most impressive. i dont love the guy but i respect how great he is at basketball It is so much more acceptable now that he is not on the Heat. I actually like him again...unless I am in a conversation with Bernstein, in which case I am obliged to take an opposing view. |
Author: | pittmike [ Wed May 27, 2015 5:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
good dolphin wrote: billypootons wrote: 5 finals in a row, that's impressive... this year's being the most impressive. i dont love the guy but i respect how great he is at basketball It is so much more acceptable now that he is not on the Heat. I actually like him again...unless I am in a conversation with Bernstein, in which case I am obliged to take an opposing view. I am sort of in this camp. I can appreciate him but not like him. |
Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed May 27, 2015 6:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 5/27 Lebron Worship |
Reared on the Score wrote: City of Fools wrote: and there was the obligatory Michael Reinsdorf whisper to Dan that the Bulls are not screwing Tom over. Not that I'm listening, but hopefully they see that it's in Reinsdorf's financial interest to let Thibs coach elsewhere ASAP to offset the money they owe him. They'd be screwing themselves by screwing him out of a job. Bernstein made that point yesterday. He stated that there was no way that Reinsdorf would take a financial hit just to support his GM's spite (although he did acknowledge the JR was not above doing that to someone who had done him wrong). |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Wed May 27, 2015 7:25 pm ] |
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Reared on the Score wrote: City of Fools wrote: and there was the obligatory Michael Reinsdorf whisper to Dan that the Bulls are not screwing Tom over. Not that I'm listening, but hopefully they see that it's in Reinsdorf's financial interest to let Thibs coach elsewhere ASAP to offset the money they owe him. They'd be screwing themselves by screwing him out of a job. Bernstein made that point yesterday. He stated that there was no way that Reinsdorf would take a financial hit just to support his GM's spite (although he did acknowledge the JR was not above doing that to someone who had done him wrong). Holding out for a pick means you get a pick plus a lower financial commitment. It's not just.spite motivating holding onto thibs, if there's any spite.at all. |
Author: | Dave In Champaign [ Wed May 27, 2015 7:38 pm ] |
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Great column by Dan today. On a totally unrelated note, I'm just going to leave this here: |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Wed May 27, 2015 7:44 pm ] |
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Dave In Champaign wrote: Great column by Dan today. On a totally unrelated note, I'm just going to leave this here: Not that I support Dan's argument, but it might be worth taking those numbers and dividing them by the number of 50+win teams those guys have played to get a clearer picture of the significance of that stat. |
Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed May 27, 2015 8:26 pm ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Reared on the Score wrote: City of Fools wrote: and there was the obligatory Michael Reinsdorf whisper to Dan that the Bulls are not screwing Tom over. Not that I'm listening, but hopefully they see that it's in Reinsdorf's financial interest to let Thibs coach elsewhere ASAP to offset the money they owe him. They'd be screwing themselves by screwing him out of a job. Bernstein made that point yesterday. He stated that there was no way that Reinsdorf would take a financial hit just to support his GM's spite (although he did acknowledge the JR was not above doing that to someone who had done him wrong). Holding out for a pick means you get a pick plus a lower financial commitment. It's not just.spite motivating holding onto thibs, if there's any spite.at all. |
Author: | redskingreg [ Wed May 27, 2015 9:05 pm ] |
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Dave In Champaign wrote: Great column by Dan today. On a totally unrelated note, I'm just going to leave this here: Uh oh. LeBumslayer! Alert the Goffer! |
Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 27, 2015 9:30 pm ] |
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This is an extremely relevant point when discussing the greatness of Lebron. He hasn't defeated too many good teams during his career. He has benefitted tremendously from playing his entire career in the Eastern Conf. |
Author: | pittmike [ Wed May 27, 2015 10:06 pm ] |
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All I know is B&B will talk more Bulls/Lebron than this great Hawks victory. Book it. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Wed May 27, 2015 10:13 pm ] |
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pittmike wrote: All I know is B&B will talk more Bulls/Lebron than this great Hawks victory. Book it. OH MY GOD IT'S HIS SHOW HE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT'S NOT EVEN THAT BUMS. |
Author: | billypootons [ Thu May 28, 2015 1:20 am ] |
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why do they make fun of francesa so much? are they just jelly of his massive contract? |
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