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Bears are embracing the tank job this year. They will draft top 5.

Gloopan Kuratz wrote:

Bears are embracing the tank job this year. They will draft top 5.

While the Cubs hit the perfect storm of MLB rebuilding the NFL is a much different animal.
I've never been more apathetic about a Bears or NFL season.
Really looking forward to a great college football season. Other than if the Bears are good I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays.

I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays.

8675309 wrote:

I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays.

I've been there for about 15 years. The college game and experience is just more fun to me, and not just FBS, but FCS and D2 as well.

Crazy talk. College games are fun to attend and much more affordable. They also are played generally in nicer weather and locations

Still the pro games are played at a much higher skill level and are more competitive. The atmosphere is a lot of fun

good dolphin wrote:

Crazy talk. College games are fun to attend and much more affordable. They also are played generally in nicer weather and locations

I think you are underselling the college experience. The styles are more varied. The rivalries are much more intense. Saturday football > Sunday football. The regular season matters more. There is a logical connection to the team/school that doesn't exist with the pros.

It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade.

Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches.

By trading 'locker room cancer' Brandon Marshall, they created a huge hole at WR.

A hole that was then filled with the #7 pick in the draft. A draft that featured many strong pass rushers.

The NFL has two positions of major impact - QB and pass rusher. Not WR. Name me the top tier balls out WR who won a SB. Reggie Wayne maybe?

Andre Johnson? Megatron? Antonio Brown? Marshall? AJ Green? Thomas? Dez?

Nothing.

midenginerearwheeldrive wrote:

Even fucking Wannie knows you don't get rid of a guy if you have nothing to replace him with. Cancers only thrive in warm, most Trestmanian environs. The cool, dry air of the Fox era would have cooled that shit in a second.

DannyB wrote:

midenginerearwheeldrive wrote:

I would guess that the new Bears regime talked with many of the players about Marshall & didnt hear positive responses. A great team with great team leaders & one that is ready to contend can live with a cancer like Marshall. The Bears are rebuilding & it isn't like having him on the team would have made them a contender. The side show wears on people & it has already started in NY.

Scorehead wrote:

DannyB wrote:

midenginerearwheeldrive wrote:

Marshall lacks social capital.

midenginerearwheeldrive wrote:

Speaking of football hell, Marshall has never played in a playoff game.

Let him go. He wasn't worth the trouble. If they suck without him, they would have sucked with him.

Never should have traded for Cutler. The line was a broken fence....it was like buying a Mercedes when you live in a fucking trailer...then you realize the Mercedes can't play football that great anyway.

If the Bears get the #1 or #2 overall pick, they need to be thinking QB, not defense.

Author:	Dignified Rube [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:14 pm ]
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Until we stop drafting poorly, there's no getting out of it. You cannot have your two of your highest three picks not playing when you're thin everywhere. Next year won't be much better, even if we do get the number one or two overall in the draft. Have to go defense and just patch the offense best you can through free agency. All positions on the second and third level are in need of upgrading. I don't see how Shea McClellin can be leader of your defense, when last year people were wondering whether he could even play football. However much lipstick you put on the pig, it's still a pig. You need Lawrence Taylor in the middle, not Shea McClellin. The early show with Mulley and Hanley was like a funeral for the Bears. Nothing coming out of Z.Z.'s mouth during B&B was encouraging either. This is a minimum two-year rebuild, I'm sorry to say.

Author:	Hatchetman [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:19 pm ]
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I said it was a five year rebuild but everyone scoffed. Scoff Scoff Scoff. We'll see who scoffs last.

Author:	Gloopan Kuratz [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:25 pm ]
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Bears are embracing the tank job this year. They will draft top 5.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:29 pm ]
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LT was an outside LB but your point on Mc Clellin is well taken I don't think any fan was fooled going into this year. I don't know why this regime married itself to him for another year

Author:	8675309 [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:37 pm ]
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Gloopan Kuratz wrote: Bears are embracing the tank job this year. They will draft top 5. While the Cubs hit the perfect storm of MLB rebuilding the NFL is a much different animal. I've never been more apathetic about a Bears or NFL season. Really looking forward to a great college football season. Other than if the Bears are good I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays.

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Author:	Scorehead [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:49 pm ]
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This year and even next year dont really matter. Bears have a real coaching staff for the first time in forever and this year is about implementing their systems and schemes, and next year will be more retooling of the roster. I trust this coaching staff and while this team will be weak, I will still wear my 34 jersey every sunday, watch every game and will enjoy seeing the new schemes and coaching. BEARSSS!!!

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:06 pm ]
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8675309 wrote: Gloopan Kuratz wrote: Bears are embracing the tank job this year. They will draft top 5. While the Cubs hit the perfect storm of MLB rebuilding the NFL is a much different animal. I've never been more apathetic about a Bears or NFL season. Really looking forward to a great college football season. Other than if the Bears are good I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays. NFL should be a fairly short term solution. Rosters turn over every 3 years on average. Dignified Rube has it correct though, we need some productive drafts or this thing is going nowhere

Author:	Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:12 pm ]
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8675309 wrote: I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays. Welcome to the dark side.

Author:	Scorehead [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:32 pm ]
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8675309 wrote: I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays. I've been there for about 15 years. The college game and experience is just more fun to me, and not just FBS, but FCS and D2 as well.

Author:	midenginerearwheeldrive [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:36 pm ]
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It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. By trading 'locker room cancer' Brandon Marshall, they created a huge hole at WR. A hole that was then filled with the #7 pick in the draft. A draft that featured many strong pass rushers. The NFL has two positions of major impact - QB and pass rusher. Not WR. Name me the top tier balls out WR who won a SB. Reggie Wayne maybe? Andre Johnson? Megatron? Antonio Brown? Marshall? AJ Green? Thomas? Dez? Nothing.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:41 pm ]
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midenginerearwheeldrive wrote: It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. Speaking of football hell, Marshall has never played in a playoff game. Let him go. He wasn't worth the trouble. If they suck without him, they would have sucked with him.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:31 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote: 8675309 wrote: I've shockingly turned into someone that enjoys college football Saturdays much more than NFL Sundays. I've been there for about 15 years. The college game and experience is just more fun to me, and not just FBS, but FCS and D2 as well. Crazy talk. College games are fun to attend and much more affordable. They also are played generally in nicer weather and locations Still the pro games are played at a much higher skill level and are more competitive. The atmosphere is a lot of fun

Author:	Dave In Champaign [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:41 pm ]
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If the Bears get the #1 or #2 overall pick, they need to be thinking QB, not defense.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:46 pm ]
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By rights, they should have been thinking QB in the spring. I cannot believe they extended Jay Cutler when they did. I just cannot.

Author:	bigfan [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:01 am ]
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High Pick next year for Connor Cook. LOTS OF FREE AGENT MONEY K White should be ready?

Author:	the ghost of t-dub [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:07 pm ]
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I like the varied schemes in college football from spread offenses, to option football, 3 back offenses, flex bone, zone read, stack defenses... Love the game day experience as well

Author:	Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:16 pm ]
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For the next few weeks I'm in the car in the late mornings and afternoons 3x/week for a local project. Today on my way back and forth to Plano, I found myself punching up Rich Eisen on XM instead of listening to very serious local sports radio. I suspect that this will be a pattern.

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Author:	Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:42 am ]
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Need to do an Irsay. Play Curtis Painter and get Andrew Luck.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:17 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: Crazy talk. College games are fun to attend and much more affordable. They also are played generally in nicer weather and locations I think you are underselling the college experience. The styles are more varied. The rivalries are much more intense. Saturday football > Sunday football. The regular season matters more. There is a logical connection to the team/school that doesn't exist with the pros. good dolphin wrote: Still the pro games are played at a much higher skill level and are more competitive. The atmosphere is a lot of fun Obviously the skill level is higher but in my opinion the desire of the NFL to have parity across the league has turned much of it into the sports equivalent of coin flips. My stance has always been that the NFL is better, but I like college football more.

Author:	good dolphin [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:22 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: good dolphin wrote: Crazy talk. College games are fun to attend and much more affordable. They also are played generally in nicer weather and locations I think you are underselling the college experience. The styles are more varied. The rivalries are much more intense. Saturday football > Sunday football. The regular season matters more. There is a logical connection to the team/school that doesn't exist with the pros. I enjoy the college experience. I go to at least three games a year on levels ranging from D III to D I. The ritual makes it fun. It may not be true for all NFL cities but there is a pretty similar level of ritual going to a Bears game.

Author:	DannyB [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:59 pm ]
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midenginerearwheeldrive wrote: It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. By trading 'locker room cancer' Brandon Marshall, they created a huge hole at WR. A hole that was then filled with the #7 pick in the draft. A draft that featured many strong pass rushers. The NFL has two positions of major impact - QB and pass rusher. Not WR. Name me the top tier balls out WR who won a SB. Reggie Wayne maybe? Andre Johnson? Megatron? Antonio Brown? Marshall? AJ Green? Thomas? Dez? Nothing. Even fucking Wannie knows you don't get rid of a guy if you have nothing to replace him with. Cancers only thrive in warm, most Trestmanian environs. The cool, dry air of the Fox era would have cooled that shit in a second.

Author:	Scorehead [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:39 pm ]
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DannyB wrote: midenginerearwheeldrive wrote: It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. By trading 'locker room cancer' Brandon Marshall, they created a huge hole at WR. A hole that was then filled with the #7 pick in the draft. A draft that featured many strong pass rushers. The NFL has two positions of major impact - QB and pass rusher. Not WR. Name me the top tier balls out WR who won a SB. Reggie Wayne maybe? Andre Johnson? Megatron? Antonio Brown? Marshall? AJ Green? Thomas? Dez? Nothing. Even fucking Wannie knows you don't get rid of a guy if you have nothing to replace him with. Cancers only thrive in warm, most Trestmanian environs. The cool, dry air of the Fox era would have cooled that shit in a second. I would guess that the new Bears regime talked with many of the players about Marshall & didnt hear positive responses. A great team with great team leaders & one that is ready to contend can live with a cancer like Marshall. The Bears are rebuilding & it isn't like having him on the team would have made them a contender. The side show wears on people & it has already started in NY.

Author:	SomeGuy [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:44 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote: DannyB wrote: midenginerearwheeldrive wrote: It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. By trading 'locker room cancer' Brandon Marshall, they created a huge hole at WR. A hole that was then filled with the #7 pick in the draft. A draft that featured many strong pass rushers. The NFL has two positions of major impact - QB and pass rusher. Not WR. Name me the top tier balls out WR who won a SB. Reggie Wayne maybe? Andre Johnson? Megatron? Antonio Brown? Marshall? AJ Green? Thomas? Dez? Nothing. Even fucking Wannie knows you don't get rid of a guy if you have nothing to replace him with. Cancers only thrive in warm, most Trestmanian environs. The cool, dry air of the Fox era would have cooled that shit in a second. I would guess that the new Bears regime talked with many of the players about Marshall & didnt hear positive responses. A great team with great team leaders & one that is ready to contend can live with a cancer like Marshall. The Bears are rebuilding & it isn't like having him on the team would have made them a contender. The side show wears on people & it has already started in NY. Marshall lacks social capital.

Author:	Scorehead [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:46 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote: Scorehead wrote: DannyB wrote: midenginerearwheeldrive wrote: It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. By trading 'locker room cancer' Brandon Marshall, they created a huge hole at WR. A hole that was then filled with the #7 pick in the draft. A draft that featured many strong pass rushers. The NFL has two positions of major impact - QB and pass rusher. Not WR. Name me the top tier balls out WR who won a SB. Reggie Wayne maybe? Andre Johnson? Megatron? Antonio Brown? Marshall? AJ Green? Thomas? Dez? Nothing. Even fucking Wannie knows you don't get rid of a guy if you have nothing to replace him with. Cancers only thrive in warm, most Trestmanian environs. The cool, dry air of the Fox era would have cooled that shit in a second. I would guess that the new Bears regime talked with many of the players about Marshall & didnt hear positive responses. A great team with great team leaders & one that is ready to contend can live with a cancer like Marshall. The Bears are rebuilding & it isn't like having him on the team would have made them a contender. The side show wears on people & it has already started in NY. Marshall lacks social capital. Nah. Professional athletes all have inherent social capital.

Author:	No Clever Moniker [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:05 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: midenginerearwheeldrive wrote: It's the reason I hate the Marshall trade. Sure, he's a fucking nut job, but that nut job was the only one who competed last year (playing hurt). At least he appeared to give a shit. That nut job is one of the top 5 WR in the league and made 17 better by creating coverage mismatches. Speaking of football hell, Marshall has never played in a playoff game. Let him go. He wasn't worth the trouble. If they suck without him, they would have sucked with him. Hall of Famers Butkus and Sayers never played in a playoff game. By the same token I doubt Marshall will play in a playoff game this season, but that won't be because he's the biggest nut job playing for the J-E-T-S.

Author:	Smarmystein [ Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:17 am ]
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Never should have traded for Cutler. The line was a broken fence....it was like buying a Mercedes when you live in a fucking trailer...then you realize the Mercedes can't play football that great anyway.

Author:	Dignified Rube [ Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:53 pm ]
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Smarmystein wrote: Never should have traded for Cutler. The line was a broken fence....it was like buying a Mercedes when you live in a fucking trailer...then you realize the Mercedes can't play football that great anyway. Yes, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. The Bears never were able to recoup the two first-round picks that were traded away, and we've been stuck in football hell ever since.