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Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Josh McGowen Apology?
I'm laughing because even when they pick on the most innocuous subject to target, they end up having to eat all their bad words.

After Sunday, McGowen is first quarterback in Browns history with three straight 300-yard games. And he broke the team record of 444 yards passing set by Brian Sipe on Oct. 25, 1981, against the Baltimore Colts.

Just another example of B&B making careers about being wrong about things. Oh the Schadenfreude!
Author:  redskingreg [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:00 am ]
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He sucks. Shut the fuck up.

Passing Rushing
Season Team League GP GS Comp Att Pct Yds TD INT Rate Att Yds TD
2002 Arizona NFL 2 0 7 18 38.9 66 0 2 10.2 1 20 0
2003 Arizona NFL 8 3 95 166 57.2 1018 5 6 70.3 28 158 1
2004 Arizona NFL 14 13 233 408 57.1 2511 11 10 74.1 36 112 2
2005 Arizona NFL 9 6 163 270 60.4 1838 9 11 74.9 29 139 0
2006 Detroit NFL 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
2007 Oakland NFL 9 9 111 190 58.4 1151 10 11 69.4 29 143 0
2008 Carolina NFL 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 4 -3 0
2011 Chicago NFL 3 2 35 55 63.6 414 2 4 68.3 12 68 0
2012 Chicago NFL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
2013 Chicago NFL 8 5 149 224 66.5 1829 13 1 109.0 13 69 1
2014 Tampa Bay NFL 11 11 184 327 56.3 2206 11 14 70.5 25 127 3
2015 Cleveland NFL 4 4 101 149 67.8 1203 6 1 102.8 6 35 1
Regular season totals 73 53 1,079 1,813 59.5 12,236 67 60 78.3 183 868 8
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
All the while Cutler hasn't had a 300 yrd. passing game this year in the Adam Gase offense. This is too good to be true!
Author:  redskingreg [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:12 am ]
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Why does one need 300 yards to have a good game?
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:13 am ]
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Why doesn't it?
Author:  redskingreg [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:14 am ]
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Because quarterbacks routinely have 300 yards passing in a loss. That's the 2015 NFL. It's a passing league, but that doesn't mean you're winning while doing it.
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:18 am ]
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redskingreg wrote:
Because quarterbacks routinely have 300 yards passing in a loss. That's the 2015 NFL. It's a passing league, but that doesn't mean you're winning while doing it.


You're confusing causality with correlation. Besides, we're talking about individual performance.
Author:  redskingreg [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:19 am ]
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And you're confusing Josh McCown with anything other than a dumpster fire.
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:22 am ]
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redskingreg wrote:
And you're confusing Josh McCown with anything other than a dumpster fire.


Say what you will, but McCown has eclipsed Kosar on those two feats.
Author:  Chus [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
Who is better, McGowan or Fouts?
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:38 am ]
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Chus wrote:
Who is better, McGowan or Fouts?


Fouts, only because he's better than Brady. But if McGowan wins the Superbowl this year, then McGowan.
Author:  Chus [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:39 am ]
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What about the other McGowan? He rolled up 300 yards a few weeks back.
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:41 am ]
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Chus wrote:
What about the other McGowan? He rolled up 300 yards a few weeks back.


Now I'm convinced, Chus is a mult as Veganfan.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:22 am ]
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Josh McCown in a top 5 QB in the league this year.
Author:  spmack [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:35 am ]
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Stop yourself Speeps.
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:44 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Josh McCown in a top 5 QB in the league this year.


He's six on the NFL list of Yds/G passing with 300 behind Dalton. By comparison, Cutler is 28th with 220 Yds/G.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
dude the browns are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 ravens. if anything you're giving him props as a top fantasy QB cuz like, shit, cleveland aint doing anything.... especially when it would behoove them to see what they got in money manziel otherwise at absolute best you win like 1 playoff game b4 you get smeared by a real team.... that's your upside with mccown.

anybody watch jay cutler last week? i want that guy quarterbacking over mccown without a shadow of a doubt.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:07 am ]
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sinicalypse wrote:
dude the browns are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 ravens. if anything you're giving him props as a top fantasy QB cuz like, shit, cleveland aint doing anything.... especially when it would behoove them to see what they got in money manziel otherwise at absolute best you win like 1 playoff game b4 you get smeared by a real team.... that's your upside with mccown.

anybody watch jay cutler last week? i want that guy quarterbacking over mccown without a shadow of a doubt.
dude the Bears are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 Chiefs.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:09 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
dude the browns are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 ravens. if anything you're giving him props as a top fantasy QB cuz like, shit, cleveland aint doing anything.... especially when it would behoove them to see what they got in money manziel otherwise at absolute best you win like 1 playoff game b4 you get smeared by a real team.... that's your upside with mccown.

anybody watch jay cutler last week? i want that guy quarterbacking over mccown without a shadow of a doubt.
dude the Bears are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 Chiefs.


yeah but im not calling jay cutler one of the 5 best quarterbacks and asking for people to apologize for naysaying him.

and UH, rick, you DO know that jay was injured near halftime of the cardinals game and out for the seahawks game, and you never know if he was out there when the bears DEF was hanging with seattle if that game turns out differently.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
sinicalypse wrote:
and UH, rick, you DO know that jay was injured near halftime of the cardinals game and out for the seahawks game, and you never know if he was out there when the bears DEF was hanging with seattle if that game turns out differently.
Hypothetical Jay Cutler is one of the top 5 qbs in the league!
Author:  Councilman Les Whinen [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:12 am ]
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If they actually do mention this what's the over/under on Matt Flynn comparisons?
Author:  spmack [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:13 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
dude the browns are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 ravens. if anything you're giving him props as a top fantasy QB cuz like, shit, cleveland aint doing anything.... especially when it would behoove them to see what they got in money manziel otherwise at absolute best you win like 1 playoff game b4 you get smeared by a real team.... that's your upside with mccown.

anybody watch jay cutler last week? i want that guy quarterbacking over mccown without a shadow of a doubt.
dude the Bears are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 Chiefs.

You can't be that way BRick. They won, regardless of whether it was last minute or a blowout.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
and UH, rick, you DO know that jay was injured near halftime of the cardinals game and out for the seahawks game, and you never know if he was out there when the bears DEF was hanging with seattle if that game turns out differently.
Hypothetical Jay Cutler is one of the top 5 qbs in the league!


that could be a proper board mult, but yeah sure i cant deny at one point when we got him in here we all hoped he'd be that....

but look man, i'll tell you this.... i still think having watched him for years and seeing what he can do when he has dusty's horses around him and some proper coaching, man, i wont say anything about his upside as top-whatever, but you can do a hell of a lot worse than jay cutler, and i think even you gotta admit that.... unless part of your bit is saying that claussen is just a little less than jay or something equally predictable =D
Author:  Chus [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:15 am ]
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Chus wrote:
What about the other McGowan? He rolled up 300 yards a few weeks back.


Now I'm convinced, Chus is a mult as Veganfan.


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Author:  redskingreg [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
Chus Whitman vibe.
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:19 am ]
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Here is a link to YTD QBR. Not surprising that Brady & A-Rod are #1 & 2. McGowan is #9, Cutler is #27.


http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING
Author:  Brick [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:19 am ]
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spmack wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
dude the browns are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 ravens. if anything you're giving him props as a top fantasy QB cuz like, shit, cleveland aint doing anything.... especially when it would behoove them to see what they got in money manziel otherwise at absolute best you win like 1 playoff game b4 you get smeared by a real team.... that's your upside with mccown.

anybody watch jay cutler last week? i want that guy quarterbacking over mccown without a shadow of a doubt.
dude the Bears are 2-3 and only got that way by barely beating the 1-4 Chiefs.

You can't be that way BRick. They won, regardless of whether it was last minute or a blowout.
It was me copying and pasting sini's thoughts since the exact same thing is true.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Josh McGowen Apology?
sinicalypse wrote:
but look man, i'll tell you this.... i still think having watched him for years and seeing what he can do when he has dusty's horses around him and some proper coaching, man, i wont say anything about his upside as top-whatever, but you can do a hell of a lot worse than jay cutler, and i think even you gotta admit that.... unless part of your bit is saying that claussen is just a little less than jay or something equally predictable =D
Of course you can do worse than Jay Cutler. He's an average starting quarterback who is paid as an elite quarterback, which in many ways is the worst possible thing for a team.

I mean, you'd hope one of the highest paid players in the whole league is better than many other players.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:27 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
which in many ways is the worst possible thing for a team.


what? have you watched jimmy clausen this year? does the caleb hanie era ring a bell? how about those headlines in the early early 90s like DOES PT STAND FOR PLAYING TIME? dude i'd rather have an overpaid mediocre quarterback with equal parts flashes of brilliance and WTF than have the chad hutchinson era redux
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:29 am ]
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sinicalypse wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
and UH, rick, you DO know that jay was injured near halftime of the cardinals game and out for the seahawks game, and you never know if he was out there when the bears DEF was hanging with seattle if that game turns out differently.
Hypothetical Jay Cutler is one of the top 5 qbs in the league!


that could be a proper board mult, but yeah sure i cant deny at one point when we got him in here we all hoped he'd be that....

but look man, i'll tell you this.... i still think having watched him for years and seeing what he can do when he has dusty's horses around him and some proper coaching, man, i wont say anything about his upside as top-whatever, but you can do a hell of a lot worse than jay cutler, and i think even you gotta admit that.... unless part of your bit is saying that claussen is just a little less than jay or something equally predictable =D


Cutler deserves praise for what he did in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs, but not for the other three quarters when his offense generated a paltry six points. The bar for QBs in Chicago has been set so low that even mediocre performances are perceived as some special. Imagine McCown passing for three 300 yard games with the Bears. The town wouldn't know what to do.
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