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Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:31 pm ]
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Welcome to the thread.

Despite the dopey things Kenny sometimes says, Rick's large and in charge. Dan is telling us this in his Big. Boy. Pants. Voice.

WYC @ 5:03pm

Other surprises along the way.

Have a nice day. Or don't.

Author:  bigfan [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:33 pm ]
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Dan wants to be friends with Rick. LOL

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:37 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Dan wants to be friends with Rick. LOL


Sure as hell sounded like that. The tone he had was usually reserved for correcting idiots that questioned Theo's divinity.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:38 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Dan wants to be friends with Rick. LOL
Oh. My. God.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:44 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Dan wants to be friends with Rick. LOL
Oh. My. God.

Not BRick. You're safe. For now.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:46 pm ]
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Dan baseball penis

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:07 pm ]
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Dan baseball penis

I'll take your word for it; I'm not looking at it.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:09 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Dan wants to be friends with Rick. LOL
Oh. My. God.

Not BRick. You're safe. For now.
I was excited. Really excited.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:14 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Dan wants to be friends with Rick. LOL
Oh. My. God.

Not BRick. You're safe. For now.
I was excited. Really excited.

No you weren't ... don't crap me now, no no ...

Author:  billypootons [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:15 pm ]
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i can ruin rick hahn for you.... every 10 seconds or so he'll throw in a weird "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" before he starts the next sentence. I can no longer listen to him without noticing it and irritating me

Author:  Hayden Fry's Mustache [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:38 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
i can ruin rick hahn for you....

Hahn's career depends on the success of White Sox baseball. He's already ruined.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:39 pm ]
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I think Ramblin' Red Rectum just popped into the studio ... is that who that is?

Author:  Franky T [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:40 pm ]
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WYC should be as bad as ever with the GOP debate Tuesday. I'm sure the sycophants are already on hold waiting for their chance to impress Danny. Thank God I won't be able to listen.

Author:  the ghost of t-dub [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:47 pm ]
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Finally got the chance to hear WYC for the first time in months tonight. I think it's way past time to end this segment. It felt like some of the eCraps Danny read took like 2-3 minutes to get through. Brutal segment.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:08 pm ]
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RICK HAHN IS RUNNING THE WHITE SOX. NO KENNY.

GAR FORMAN IS RUNNING THE BULLS. NO PAXSON.

jeez it's like dan gets his edicts/talking points from high high above, eh?

Author:  BD [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:39 pm ]
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sinicalypse wrote:
RICK HAHN IS RUNNING THE WHITE SOX. NO KENNY.

GAR FORMAN IS RUNNING THE BULLS. NO PAXSON.

jeez it's like dan gets his edicts/talking points from high high above, eh?


On a day-to-day level, he's probably right.

I doubt the Team President is heavily involved in most day to day activities. For example, they probably aren't directly involved in trade talks, regular conversations with other teams, minor league activity, waiver wire, etc; However, I'm sure there are situations where they become more involved (i.e trades that change the direction of a team, contracts with key players) and I'm sure they are meet regularly with the GM of the team so they are aware of all facets of the organization. I'm sure they are responsible for approving moves that impact the organization, and for setting a vision for the team, both short-term and long-term.

In Rick Hahn's situation, he doesn't accept this GM position without realizing that this team doesn't believe in rebuilding. He worked under Williams for years. That can't be a surprise, and he may be in full agreement with this approach. Knowing that the team doesn't rebuild impacts, for example, how the minor league strategy works. As a result, the minor league system is meant to help the major league team by either feeding players from the minors, or used in trades. They also draft players who are more likely to arrive in the majors sooner.

In Gar Foreman's situation, once you pay your players, you're essentially stuck with that team, for better or worse, until contracts expire. Every 4-5 years, you can dip into free agency, but most years, you're probably spending a good portion of your time watching college games. That's the only way to add players if the salary cap structure prevents you from adding a premium free agent, but the draft is a crap shoot most years. Trades can happen and mid-level free agent moves can be made, but trades are driven by contracts and mid-level free agents are nice additions, but not direction changing moves. John Paxson is known to attend college games so I'm sure he has opinions on whom the Bulls should draft and is probably working with Foreman on those decisions even if he does concede that Foreman makes the final decision. I'm sure Paxson is attending dinners and assisting in the recruitment of a key free agent. When the Bulls are able to be in the free agent market, Foreman doesn't really need approval necessarily to sign a player. It should be pretty obvious that the Bulls have interest in keeping their own and/or adding a young all-star talent. If a move results in the Bulls having to pay the luxury tax, I'm sure Paxson does need to approve that move after he talks with Reinsdorf.

Point is, for both teams, the GM may be doing most of the daily work, but the Team President is playing a key role.

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:24 pm ]
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For the first time I said no I will not listen to this WYC shit. Went to W&S and what was I treated to? An awesome half hour of them talking everything with Barkley. It was very good.

Author:  billypootons [ Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:34 am ]
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WYC was actually decent this week

Author:  City of Fools [ Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:36 am ]
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yes it was. Surprised pleasantly.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:58 am ]
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billypootons wrote:
WYC was actually decent this week


Really? As usual, it was loaded with the typical partisan political craps that are supposedly forbidden. Including one that took a sideswipe at Kane. There was even a stupid Ramblin' Grimace crap. The Ronnie Woo one was funny, although not really essence.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:00 pm ]
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i flipped on while prepping dinner. some text about Lance Berkman. can't stand the Bernstein sychophants so I immediately wanted to defend Berkman though I have no idea what he said.

Author:  Chus [ Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:45 pm ]
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Hayden Fry's Mustache wrote:
billypootons wrote:
i can ruin rick hahn for you....

Hahn's career depends on the success of White Sox baseball. He's already ruined.


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That avatar cracks me up every time I see it.

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