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I've been listening to and reading a lot of nice things about the Bears since the ball game mercifully ended. Just wondering -- and I guess I'll find out later -- how impressed the board was with the effort. I give the defense high marks, but a three-point second half against that outfit is not acceptable. Never been less inspired by a 24-point victory.


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Agree. Now Lovie is being touted by some as a "master motivator". Please. The Rams have packed it in. The test will be next Sunday night on the main stage, on the road,...and against a stud running back. I do feel the Bears can win that game though. They control their own destiny...which is nice.

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The Bears are not OK. The Rams are a team that they should beat by 20 points 99 out of 100 times they play. They ran the ball very well. But Trent Green is horrible, and the rams Oline was banged up as it was. It was nice to get a win, but the playoff tickets cannot be printed yet. Now, if they beat Minnesota by 2 TDs next week, I may change my tune a little. Cautiously optimistic at best with this Bears team. Remember, this is still a team a bad defense, a QB that is getting better but it still not 100%, and a head coach that makes stupid moves.

Nice post count, Mac.

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I've been listening to and reading a lot of nice things about the Bears since the ball game mercifully ended. Just wondering -- and I guess I'll find out later -- how impressed the board was with the effort. I give the defense high marks, but a three-point second half against that outfit is not acceptable. Never been less inspired by a 24-point victory.

Sounds like somebody took the "over" and came up a little short! :D

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Yes, Spanky, I did have the over. That aside, the Bears offense was incapable of putting points up after the defense set them up at every turn. Another winning weekend at the window, however. Whoo hoo!


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I thought in the passing game they tried to force Hester into it. I'm also done seeing Hester returning any type of kick. Time to focus him for this season on being a bad wideout and scrap it next year to get him back to being a returner and situational receiver.

The Bears still have alot of holes and look every bit a 500 club this week.


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Now we're bitching about how they won?? :roll:

Is it just me or is sportstalk radio sucking all the fun out of a football season?


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Now we're bitching about how they won?? :roll:

Is it just me or is sportstalk radio sucking all the fun out of a football season?

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I don’t know if they put forth a lot of effort so much so as the Rams suck. Somebody had to win yesterday and the Bears suck less.

Devin Hester 5-57 was the Bears’ leading receiver with 11.4 yards per catch. He is their leading receiver and that’s not good.

I still think the coaches are boobs. They finally came up with some creative play calling…why against the rams?

The offense has played above their heads all season, and the defense and st way below. If they carry this into the remaining games they might do something but I have no confidence they will.


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Sometimes its fun watching your team beat an obviously lesser team into the ground. This was NOT one of those times. Maybe it was just me but that game was putting me to sleep....in fact, I did fall asleep with about 5 or 6 minutes to go. Yeah, the D was good...but WOW, the Rams absolutely suck! I expected the defense to look good against that garbage the Rams put on the field. But the offense disappointed me. Minus the big run by Forte, there was no explosiveness. Do we have any receivers on this team? Who are they?
They didn't need to put up 45 points in this game but I honestly think they were trying to do it. 3 points in the 2nd half?!?! Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Happy about the win, but still waiting for some of these guys to get their heads out of their asses.


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Ogunleye came inside on a stunt in the first quarter for a big sack.
‘‘We’ve run that all year. It just worked today.’’



I think that quote pretty much tells you what beating the Rams means. I mean is Florida out celebrating the Citadel victory?


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There are two almost equally suck teams still on the schedule in Jacksonville and Houston. That gets them to 8 wins. The other three are all in the same primordial soup of mediocrity with the Bears and two of those games are at home. I see no way they finish less than 9-7.

That does not mean they are good.

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The Bears are as average as their record indicates.

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I am highly optimistic after this win. Bring on the Vi-Queens!!!

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I would be very excited if the other 31 teams were as bad as the Rams. Hell is coming to breakfast next Sunday night in that dome and then we all can get back to reailty that are team blows.


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To me the Bears are NOT a contender, they're a pretender.

Granted they beat the Rams, but WHO HASN'T? And don't give me the Cowboys, as they were playing with their backup QB and thought they could show up and win.

The victory was nice, as the Bears haven't looked good against the Packers and Titans.

Now they may luck out and get to face Minnesota without their big fatty DTs (The Williams 'Brothers').

Then they get Jacksonville coming up into the cold, possibly without crackhead Matt Jones.

..and then of course they get the dome team Saints coming up here for another ass whooping.

..and the Pack - which is too hard to predict right now, and close things out against Houston, who (contrary to popular belief) are not patsies.


I thought they Bears would be 5-11 or 6-10 depending upon injuries, as that can change anything. After the victory in Week One, I moved that prediction to 6-10 or 7-9.

I think they'll be fortunate to be .500 this year. Given the number of star players from the opposition that have missed the game against the Bears - I don't think that's acceptable because of the money paid to these defensive stiffs - despite my thoughts coming into the season.

I'd rather see them eat some humble pie and make wholesale changes to the coaching staff (the D-Line Coach, D-Coordinator and WR Coach should be fired immediately), get rid of some of these overpaid stiffs on defense and offense (that won't kill their cap) vs. see them go 9-7, sneak into the playoffs and then get their doors blown off in Round One.


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One of the many annoying things from the game was Stockton continually saying that "the Bears have found their pass rush!" IT'S THE RAMS!!!

Rest assured, their "newly found" pass rush will disappear next week.

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Rest assured, their "newly found" pass rush will disappear next week.


It'll still be in St. Louis.


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I hope they shit the bed and we get a top 10 draft pick and build that "O" line with the 1st , 2nd and 3rd picks and you do everything to sign Anquon Boldin who is a FA this year. As much as Uncle Jerry has drafted defence over the years that has fallen to shit quickly and should be addressed in FA and the later rounds of the draft and you get Bob Babich as far out of town and have him take Lovie with him and sign Bill Cower to lead this franchise.

They need to sign a few play makers and dump guys like Urlacher and Tommie Harris and move on.That is Stu's blue print for '09.


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The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
To me the Bears are NOT a contender, they're a pretender.

Granted they beat the Rams, but WHO HASN'T? And don't give me the Cowboys, as they were playing with their backup QB and thought they could show up and win.

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Yeah, even the lowly Eagles spanked the Lambs. :roll: :oops:

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I haven't followed too much of the Fox pregame show. Does Howie Long ever have a thought on the Rams? Or any insight?

It's kind of a conflict of interest with his son on the team.

I thought his son was awesome as Doug Penhall (Peter DeLuise) on 21 Jump Street.

Long: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writer ... ong.si.jpg

Doug Penhall on the right: http://www.johnnydeppfan.com/21js/21o.jpg

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Mac wrote:
I've been listening to and reading a lot of nice things about the Bears since the ball game mercifully ended. Just wondering -- and I guess I'll find out later -- how impressed the board was with the effort. I give the defense high marks, but a three-point second half against that outfit is not acceptable. Never been less inspired by a 24-point victory.


I think you lost perspective of what happened out there.

I'll sum it up - the Bears played a great 1st half, and basically put it in cruise control in the 2nd half.

They won by 24 points. Enjoy it. If they had won by a TD, you would have complaining about that as well.


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Agree. Now Lovie is being touted by some as a "master motivator". Please. The Rams have packed it in. The test will be next Sunday night on the main stage, on the road,...and against a stud running back. I do feel the Bears can win that game though. They control their own destiny...which is nice.


The Rams are a bad football team, and are missing some of their best players. Not a good combination.


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The Bears are not OK. The Rams are a team that they should beat by 20 points 99 out of 100 times they play. They ran the ball very well. But Trent Green is horrible, and the rams Oline was banged up as it was. It was nice to get a win, but the playoff tickets cannot be printed yet. Now, if they beat Minnesota by 2 TDs next week, I may change my tune a little. Cautiously optimistic at best with this Bears team. Remember, this is still a team a bad defense, a QB that is getting better but it still not 100%, and a head coach that makes stupid moves.

Nice post count, Mac.


Of course, this victory doesn't guarantee them anything. Just enjoy an easy win, and let's get ready for a tough road game in Minnesota.


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Yes, Spanky, I did have the over. That aside, the Bears offense was incapable of putting points up after the defense set them up at every turn. Another winning weekend at the window, however. Whoo hoo!


I played the Bears -7 and Under 44.5....The game went about how I expected, a fast start, and a quiet 2nd half.


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I don’t know if they put forth a lot of effort so much so as the Rams suck. Somebody had to win yesterday and the Bears suck less.

Devin Hester 5-57 was the Bears’ leading receiver with 11.4 yards per catch. He is their leading receiver and that’s not good.

I still think the coaches are boobs. They finally came up with some creative play calling…why against the rams?

The offense has played above their heads all season, and the defense and st way below. If they carry this into the remaining games they might do something but I have no confidence they will.


There was no reason for the Bears to air it out in the 2nd half. They did most of their passing in the 1st half, and I have no doubts that Orton could have had a big day if they had chosen to throw in the 2nd half. Fortunately, the coaches played this one smart, and played a conservative 2nd half. Victory is the goal, not giving Devin Hester #1 receiving numbers.


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The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
To me the Bears are NOT a contender, they're a pretender.

Granted they beat the Rams, but WHO HASN'T? And don't give me the Cowboys, as they were playing with their backup QB and thought they could show up and win.

The victory was nice, as the Bears haven't looked good against the Packers and Titans.

Now they may luck out and get to face Minnesota without their big fatty DTs (The Williams 'Brothers').

Then they get Jacksonville coming up into the cold, possibly without crackhead Matt Jones.

..and then of course they get the dome team Saints coming up here for another ass whooping.

..and the Pack - which is too hard to predict right now, and close things out against Houston, who (contrary to popular belief) are not patsies.


I thought they Bears would be 5-11 or 6-10 depending upon injuries, as that can change anything. After the victory in Week One, I moved that prediction to 6-10 or 7-9.

I think they'll be fortunate to be .500 this year. Given the number of star players from the opposition that have missed the game against the Bears - I don't think that's acceptable because of the money paid to these defensive stiffs - despite my thoughts coming into the season.

I'd rather see them eat some humble pie and make wholesale changes to the coaching staff (the D-Line Coach, D-Coordinator and WR Coach should be fired immediately), get rid of some of these overpaid stiffs on defense and offense (that won't kill their cap) vs. see them go 9-7, sneak into the playoffs and then get their doors blown off in Round One.


So, your prediction was wrong, they are better than you thought, and you're still unhappy?


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I hope they shit the bed and we get a top 10 draft pick and build that "O" line with the 1st , 2nd and 3rd picks and you do everything to sign Anquon Boldin who is a FA this year. As much as Uncle Jerry has drafted defence over the years that has fallen to shit quickly and should be addressed in FA and the later rounds of the draft and you get Bob Babich as far out of town and have him take Lovie with him and sign Bill Cower to lead this franchise.

They need to sign a few play makers and dump guys like Urlacher and Tommie Harris and move on.That is Stu's blue print for '09.


The Bears don't need a top ten pick to address the O-line. Personally I wish they NEVER have a Top Ten pick again with Jerry Angelo. WTF good has it done them, other than guarantee a shitload of money to an unproven player. I was SOOOO pissed when the current CBA got passed and it didn't address slotting of rookie contracts. Sometimes NBA rookies are signed before the NFL rookies, despite getting drafted a few months earlier. But don't get me wrong, the NBA CBA has it's issues too.

Stu, this year's draft class is very deep at offensive tackle. Please don't wish for a high draft pick. The guy the Bears draft at 15-20 could very well be the same or better than the guy drafted at #8-10.

It's never too soon to start looking though:

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The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
STU-GOTZ wrote:
I hope they shit the bed and we get a top 10 draft pick and build that "O" line with the 1st , 2nd and 3rd picks and you do everything to sign Anquon Boldin who is a FA this year. As much as Uncle Jerry has drafted defence over the years that has fallen to shit quickly and should be addressed in FA and the later rounds of the draft and you get Bob Babich as far out of town and have him take Lovie with him and sign Bill Cower to lead this franchise.

They need to sign a few play makers and dump guys like Urlacher and Tommie Harris and move on.That is Stu's blue print for '09.


The Bears don't need a top ten pick to address the O-line. Personally I wish they NEVER have a Top Ten pick again with Jerry Angelo. WTF good has it done them, other than guarantee a shitload of money to an unproven player. I was SOOOO pissed when the current CBA got passed and it didn't address slotting of rookie contracts. Sometimes NBA rookies are signed before the NFL rookies, despite getting drafted a few months earlier. But don't get me wrong, the NBA CBA has it's issues too.

Stu, this year's draft class is very deep at offensive tackle. Please don't wish for a high draft pick. The guy the Bears draft at 15-20 could very well be the same or better than the guy drafted at #8-10.

It's never too soon to start looking though:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/rankings/ot.php
http://www.gbnreport.com/2009prospects.html


Even if they got a top 10 pick this year, they wouldn't use it on an offensive tackle. Chris Williams gives them the equivalent of another first round pick next season.


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To me the Bears are NOT a contender, they're a pretender.

Granted they beat the Rams, but WHO HASN'T? And don't give me the Cowboys, as they were playing with their backup QB and thought they could show up and win.

The victory was nice, as the Bears haven't looked good against the Packers and Titans.

Now they may luck out and get to face Minnesota without their big fatty DTs (The Williams 'Brothers').

Then they get Jacksonville coming up into the cold, possibly without crackhead Matt Jones.

..and then of course they get the dome team Saints coming up here for another ass whooping.

..and the Pack - which is too hard to predict right now, and close things out against Houston, who (contrary to popular belief) are not patsies.


I thought they Bears would be 5-11 or 6-10 depending upon injuries, as that can change anything. After the victory in Week One, I moved that prediction to 6-10 or 7-9.

I think they'll be fortunate to be .500 this year. Given the number of star players from the opposition that have missed the game against the Bears - I don't think that's acceptable because of the money paid to these defensive stiffs - despite my thoughts coming into the season.

I'd rather see them eat some humble pie and make wholesale changes to the coaching staff (the D-Line Coach, D-Coordinator and WR Coach should be fired immediately), get rid of some of these overpaid stiffs on defense and offense (that won't kill their cap) vs. see them go 9-7, sneak into the playoffs and then get their doors blown off in Round One.


So, your prediction was wrong, they are better than you thought, and you're still unhappy?


I'm pleasantly surprised by the O-line, Matt Forte and Kyle Orton.

I loathe Brad Maynard's existance.

The defense sucks in a major way.

I'm not happy whatsoever. I want a Super Bowl contender. This team is not a Super Bowl, nor NFC Championship Game contender.

I have more enjoyment watching the Cardinals and Falcons than these overpaid unhappy players on defense.


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