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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:54 pm 
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Nas,
Please look at what Grossman did over the first three games.
Please look at what Griese did over his first three games.

The numbers are completely different.

Griese is an average QB in this league, and probably in the bottom 12 of starting QB's.

Grossman was bad on the level of Henry Burris or Chad Hutchinson.

I'm not going to retread over my last post again, but the numbers are clear. Grossman was given 3 games to try and get the form back that he had the first 6 weeks of last season. He didn't do it and he will be backing up Tavaris Jackson in Minnesota next year.

He sucks, he was getting worse, and he was right to be benched. Griese has been an upgrade even if he isn't on his way to the pro bowl.

Please defend this or give it up:
Grossman 1 TD, 6 INT's in 3 games
Griese 7 TD's, 6 INT's in 3 games

Griese 381 yards passing last week
Grossman not getting over 200 yards in any game this year.

Grossman had his chance. It is over. He failed after being handed the starting job 4 years in a row.

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Nas wrote:
Looking at his passing yards you would believe that Griese has been playing well. That isn't the case. Those stats tell the real story. I agree Rex should have been benched. You haven't seen me post anything that says he should be the starter. Griese got the job because they expected him to take care of the ball and allow the defense to win the game. That hasn't happened. He has 9 turnovers in 3 games which is 3 more than Grossman. Griese has had the opportunity to play with a healthy Olsen and Hester. The defense has also forced a bunch of turnovers since he has been quarterback. Not to mention the Bears haven't played a good defense in the past 3 weeks (sorry Farve Fan).

I'm done with the Griese and Grossman talk. I still think the Bears will make the playoffs and I think Griese will start to play better.


GOOD!! I respect your opinion Nas, but I hate when anyone repeats incorrect or inconsequential stats to support an argument. Griese has thrown for 7 touchdowns over the last 3 games, not 6. And he has 7 turnovers, not 9 (6 INTs, 1 Fumble lost). And did you ever think maybe the # of drops has decreased (I don't KNOW that it has and I'm not gonna watch the "film" either) or the # of times receiver "quit" on their routes has decreased (please....that was once) is because Griese can see the receivers don't get open and can't catch so he throws to the tight ends (two guys that Rex wasn't aware existed)? That's a sign of awareness, something Rex doesn't have and cannot even spell. Pointing to one stat that someone used as an example is unfair when their argument is based on a set of stats and other intangibles. And what "people" said about Rex last year has nothing to do with this year and this discussion....he's bad this year and Griese's less bad and it's pretty clear.


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