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 Post subject: He did donate the $300
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:51 pm 
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TG said he donated his appearance fee to a Foundation of the Tribune.


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He should have donated it to Kars for Kids

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
He should have donated it to Kars for Kids


I was thiking...

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What you all need to remember too is, he used the guest co-host spot for a story. What I wonder is if he got paid for it, which he shouldn't have accepted. What he should consider doing is donating whatever ESPN1000 paid him (if they did) and donate it to charity. That would clear any sense of conflict.


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Was it a conflict of interest? Well, the $300 I would have made is going to the McCormick Tribune Foundation, so I don't think guest-hosting is all that different from being a guest on MJ&H. I do that every few weeks during college football season.


I last read his post yesterday and forgot he said that. Thumbs down to me. :thumbdown: :oops:


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BTW, I will be donating the proceeds from my attendance at this Sunday's CSFMB baskeball game to Kars for Kids.

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BTW, I will be donating the proceeds from my attendance at this Sunday's CSFMB baskeball game to Kars for Kids.


Do they accept donations less than a dollar?

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Calling out Jay in his article today, saying he doesn't want readers comments. Solid.


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HappyHour Jason wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
BTW, I will be donating the proceeds from my attendance at this Sunday's CSFMB baskeball game to Kars for Kids.


Do they accept donations less than a dollar?


I hope so.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
HappyHour Jason wrote:
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BTW, I will be donating the proceeds from my attendance at this Sunday's CSFMB baskeball game to Kars for Kids.


Do they accept donations less than a dollar?


I hope so.


if they dont i will.


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I'm as guilty as the next guy of trying to construct analogies and comparisons to support my contentions, but maybe you simply cannot make an appropriate analogy when it comes to journalism ethics. Mac said it very clearly. "Old school journalism" has been dead for years. Journalism ethics as we used to know them are gone. And why should we pick on journalists anyway? Many professionals these days push the ethical boundaries in their own professions. Editors who weaken ethical rules are no different really than accountants who use questionable approaches for their clients, lawyers who won't do what's right knowing their client is guilty as hell, and engineers who cut corners in designing a road or building. Did any of them break a law? No, but they all pushed the boundaries of their own professional ethics. What the hell are ethics worth anyway? Everybody has their own compass these days. Many people rebel against standards rather than embrace them. Those of us who studied journalism and learned our ethics in a different age can lament their demise, but as Ryan said, it's no big deal.

We are a nation of people that is constantly pushing to change the rules we don't like. In a nation where 85% of people break the law every day by speeding and 50% of people on the road after midnight tonight will be legally drunk, what's the importance of a silly little old journalism ethic anyway? Most people break more important laws than this every day. I have no ill will for Teddy. I'm sure he will continue to be as objective and credible as he's always been. Maintaining the appearance of objectivity and credibilty isn't very important to editors these days. But then, as Mac said, Old School Journalism is dead. This discussion is just another flower on the coffin.


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I'm as guilty as the next guy of trying to construct analogies and comparisons to support my contentions, but maybe you simply cannot make an appropriate analogy when it comes to journalism ethics. Mac said it very clearly. "Old school journalism" has been dead for years. Journalism ethics as we used to know them are gone. And why should we pick on journalists anyway? Many professionals these days push the ethical boundaries in their own professions. Editors who weaken ethical rules are no different really than accountants who use questionable approaches for their clients, lawyers who won't do what's right knowing their client is guilty as hell, and engineers who cut corners in designing a road or building. Did any of them break a law? No, but they all pushed the boundaries of their own professional ethics. What the hell are ethics worth anyway? Everybody has their own compass these days. Many people rebel against standards rather than embrace them. Those of us who studied journalism and learned our ethics in a different age can lament their demise, but as Ryan said, it's no big deal.

We are a nation of people that is constantly pushing to change the rules we don't like. In a nation where 85% of people break the law every day by speeding and 50% of people on the road after midnight tonight will be legally drunk, what's the importance of a silly little old journalism ethic anyway? Most people break more important laws than this every day. I have no ill will for Teddy. I'm sure he will continue to be as objective and credible as he's always been. Maintaining the appearance of objectivity and credibilty isn't very important to editors these days. But then, as Mac said, Old School Journalism is dead. This discussion is just another flower on the coffin.


can you explain legally drunk? if its legal, whats the problem? :D :D


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I have never viewed Greenjeans, John Jackson, Ed Wastes my Time Sherman, or Robert Feder as "critics." I have always read them as more of media gossip columnist (a Kupcinet column reporting on the happenings of the media).

Thus I am stunned that the normally even-keeled Mulligan seems willing to crucify Greenjeans over this.


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I have never viewed Greenjeans, John Jackson, Ed Wastes my Time Sherman, or Robert Feder as "critics." I have always read them as more of media gossip columnist (a Kupcinet column reporting on the happenings of the media).

Thus I am stunned that the normally even-keeled Mulligan seems willing to crucify Greenjeans over this.


thats what i see these guys as too. i see them only once in a while with criticisms.


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Coast do you ever speed?


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I don't do it regularly, but yes Spaulding. I have.


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I have a bit of a lead foot. I speed all the time. Would the state of IL ever up their speed limit? Do you think they should?


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Wrong section. :lol: Perhaps in some places. Not everywhere.


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[quote="C_Howitt_Fealz"]I have never viewed Greenjeans, John Jackson, Ed Wastes my Time Sherman, or Robert Feder as "critics." I have always read them as more of media gossip columnist (a Kupcinet column reporting on the happenings of the media).[/quote

You know what? You're right. Excellent point.

I think this board is the place to go for real criticism of sports media, anyway. Therefore, I would like to announce that I will not compromise my integrity or create the appearance of impropriety by ever filling in as a guest host on any show. Prior to the Greenstein controversy, I thought I might get to do some hosting on the Score, though, so I was preparing by developing several styles that might fit any time slot in which I was asked to appear.

For example, say the day before, Soriano was the tying run on third in the 9th and tried to steal home and was out by 20 feet. If I was hosting morning drive, I'd say:

"He's a moron! If a white guy did dat, you know what dey'd be sayin'? Obama's pastor would probly be damnin' him from da pulpit next Sunday! Now here's Jen wit da latest news about what Drew Peterson's doin' an' who got in da Rock an' Roll Hall uh Fame."

But if I was put in the 10-12 slot, it'd probably be more like, "UNBELIEVABLE!!!! Oh, my giddy aunt, what was he thinking?! We say, "Alfonso, what were you doing?! You say . . .?"

12-2, I'd have to go, "Man, I wrote down so many notes on my yellow pad about that play, I don't know where to start. Scoreheads, help me analyze this. Was he running on his own or did this come from Lou? Hey, why not head over to Brown's right now for a Maxwell Street Polish. What was the third base coach doing during this whole sequence? And, what about this? If the Cubs lose, who does it help? The Brewers. I see the hand of Bud Selig in all of this."

Afternoon drive would have to be, "Why does anyone care about this? It's one game in a 162-game season, people. Now all the meatballs will be calling and demanding Soriano be traded or benched or something. It's people's reactions to something like this that make me embarrassed to live in Chicago."


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 Post subject: Re: from Teddy G
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TGreen wrote:
. This is my first post.


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that's an emphatic post. What's the story?


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