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Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  Ted Cox 'all over it' - as usual

A very concisely written article with plenty of ratings nuggets:

Consistency lifts Score over WMVP

Link: http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/beatw ... column=cox

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By Ted Cox
TV/Radio critic
Posted Friday, August 03, 2007


With WMVP 1000-AM still trying to break in a new local morning-midday show, and about to be forced to change hosts in midday afternoons with the departure of Dan Patrick from ESPN Radio later this month, it figures that WSCR 670-AM should trumpet its stable lineup.

“The key thing is consistency,” said Score program director Mitch Rosen. “At the end of the day, it’s consistency that brings us to the forefront.”

It sure brought them to the forefront in the quarterly spring Arbitron ratings book released last week. The Score pretty much wiped WMVP in the all-sports race.

“It was a victory across the board,” crowed Rosen.

If that’s bulletin-board material at WMVP, it comes at a painful cost. After both stations weathered the harsh sports winter with a 1.5 percent share of the overall audience 12 and older, the Score rebounded to a 1.9 share, while WMVP dipped to a 1.3. The Score also beat WMVP in the target demographic of men age 25 to 54 with a 3.9 share to 2.8, after WMVP led 3.7 to 3.2 in the winter.

The Score’s Mike North won mornings from 6 to 10 in the demo, 4.6 to 4.3, although he pretty much tied head to head with ESPN Radio syndicated hosts Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic.

Mike Mulligan and Brian Hanley swamped WMVP’s new team of Tom Waddle and Marc Silverman from 10 to noon with the Score’s highest average share, 4.9 to 2.4, and although Mike Murphy was inexplicably down in the midst of Cubs mania from noon to 2, Patrick was down more, 3.8 to 2.7.

Dan Bernstein and Terry Boers even dominated Patrick leading in for Dan McNeil, John Jurkovic and Harry Teinowitz from 2 to 6 p.m., 4.3 to 3.0, and Mac’s rhymes-with-witch-slap suspension had little to do with it, coming at the tail end of the ratings period.

Yet it does illustrate Rosen’s point about consistency. I don’t think there’s a Chicago sports fan worth his or her salt who prefers the departed Steve Rosenbloom and Sean Salisbury to Waddle and Silvy, but when you change hosts you inevitably lose loyal fans of one show while others are yet to find the new one. (That’s the phenomenon that kept Dan Rather anchor of “The CBS Evening News” for years after he should’ve been hung out to dry in the Texas sun.) And it doesn’t help to suspend the station’s marquee star excessively — yes, excessively.

Not to applaud Mac’s choice of words, but send him home for a few days as punishment and you generate a lot of press and buzz and posts on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board. Send him home for a month with Carmen DeFalco and Jeff Dickerson sitting in his place and you lose listeners. That puts WMVP in a hole starting the summer ratings period as well — with Patrick set for departure Aug. 17.

Yet as Rosen chirps about consistency and declares, “North had his best book in mornings,” it raises the issue that North’s contract at the station expires next year. He’s suddenly sitting pretty, after radio execs planted the story that he could be let go when the deal expires in a media column earlier this year, when he was still losing to Mike & Mike. That was also back when CBS Radio could at least float the idea of moving Don Imus’ syndicated show in for morning drive. That, of course, is no longer an option.

Is the station ready to pay to maintain consistency? “We don’t comment on contract negotiations,” Rosen said.

Fine, but look for the this column to end up on the bargaining table as well as on the WMVP bulletin board. (Grid comment: Good call Ted!)

In the air

Remotely interesting: The Cubs posted their highest ratings ever on Comcast SportsNet with a 6.9 local Nielsen for Wednesday night’s game that sent them into first place. That translates to about 240,000 Chicago-area households. CSNC revisits the Sting’s 1981 North American Soccer League championship on “SportsNite” at 10 p.m. today.

ESPN Desportes will cover the Cubs’ Sunday night game against the Mets in Spanish, with Ernesto Jerez and Candy Maldonado on the call. … NBC Sports airs the AVP Beach Volleyball Chicago Open championships at North Avenue Beach this weekend, with the men at 3:30 p.m. Saturday and the women at 3:30 p.m. Sunday on Channel 5. … The Big Ten Network promotes its Aug. 30 debut with an event at Finn McCool’s, 15 W. Division St., downtown, from 6 to 9 p.m. today. … HBO’s “Hard Knocks” returns at 9 p.m. Wednesday, this year looking at training camp with the Kansas City Chiefs. (Grid comment: Zzzzzz)

End of the dial: Dan McNeil has an extensive post on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board at Redacted answering listener questions. It’s required reading for all fans of his WMVP 1000-AM afternoon show — and for his station colleagues as well.

George Castle’s syndicated “Diamond Gems” devotes the entire show to Cubs manager Lou Piniella, including an exclusive one-on-one interview, this weekend at 3 p.m. Saturday on WLBK 1360-AM and Sunday at 8 a.m. on WSSP 1340-AM and at about 5 p.m. on WJOL 1340-AM.

Author:  BD [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:22 am ]
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End of the dial: Dan McNeil has an extensive post on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board at Redacted answering listener questions. It’s required reading for all fans of his WMVP 1000-AM afternoon show — and for his station colleagues as well.


Sounds like Ted Cox just discovered this. He should have advised his readers to do a search on McNeil, and could have found a lot more.

Author:  Beef Rockmore [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:59 am ]
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actually Cox has been a long time lurker. He wrote about the message board several years ago, when there were nothing but several dozen idiotic posters. Now there's more.

Author:  THE WIND SOCK [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:02 am ]
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It seems Mitch Rosen has a pretty good idea how to run a station as he goes over to the Score when his station at the time 'MVP' is on top of the sports world in this town and low and behold he lands up kicking his old partners ass. I don't think Mitch reinvented the wheel at 670 but he's a winner and it shows in the ratings.

I don't think Ted wrote anything that hasn't been said here already but Mac's time off is a show killer and a ratings killer for MVP. I do feel Jim Pastor needs to answer for the stations decline and he needs to answer some questions as to why he feels Dan's "LENGTH" of his time off is warranted when your station is in a free fall in the ratings for almost a year now.

Author:  Slap Shot ED [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:23 am ]
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Ted failed to mention that Deep is no longer a member of the CSFMB.... :P :oops: :P

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:56 am ]
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Where did Deep go?

Author:  Slap Shot ED [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:07 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Where did Deep go?


He was "DEEP SIXED". He was gobbled up by GAMETIMEDECESIONS.NET.

Author:  Harry Timbercrank [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:28 am ]
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I am out and out shocked that Waddle and Silvy pulled worse numbers than Uncle Rico and Rosenblahblahblah.

WHY?

Author:  buryman [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:30 am ]
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It takes a while to dig out of that hole Rico and Douchebag dug.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:38 am ]
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why didnt he mention our own little "WHO'S NOW" contest going on

Author:  Harry Timbercrank [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:53 am ]
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"buryman"
It takes a while to dig out of that hole Rico and Douchebag dug.


If I'm not mistaken, the HOLE GOT DEEPER.

Author:  Slap Shot ED [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:55 am ]
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quote="Harry Timbercrank"]
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", the HOLE GOT DEEPER.


No , he's no longer allowed to post on the board.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:01 am ]
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damn i know ESPN 12-3 is pretty bad right now, but imo Murph is the most unlistenable radio personality in chicago, the fact that he wins that easily, especially after dropping in the ratings, shows just how bad espn 12-3 is, but i can't believe any one listens to that idiot, i would rather just throw on XRT or something

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:46 am ]
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FavreFan86 wrote:
damn i know ESPN 12-3 is pretty bad right now, but imo Murph is the most unlistenable radio personality in chicago, the fact that he wins that easily, especially after dropping in the ratings, shows just how bad espn 12-3 is, but i can't believe any one listens to that idiot, i would rather just throw on XRT or something


This has been discussed many times over. murph has very loyal fans who listen regardless of when he is on the radio. You like him or hate him.

Author:  Stinkfinger The Crow [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:12 am ]
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Murph's numbers are likely down amidst the Cub mania because a lot of people are sipping the Kool-Aid while listening to WGN, rather than listening/calling Murph to hear management and player bashing.

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