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FavreFan86 wrote:

OK Nas, you dont seem to be able to be objective in your unconditional love for Grossman either. Mac saying he would take Huard over him was stupid, but Jurko said he would much rather have Griese rather than Grossman, and you say he is objective, so maybe you could be wrong when it comes to Grossman. Also the name of the thread isnt even true, his biggest criticism is the offensive line, which was also mine. So stop making judgements based on 3 minutes of convo and go back to B&B

I'm not on the radio. I'm a fan posting on a message board and if you read my thoughts on the game yesterday I was critical of his dumb fumble.

If Mac is the one trick pony, Harry is his relative the horse's ass today. He's making fun of Mike Brown for crying. His emotions got the better of him and his career is probably over. I can't fault the guy for that and I highly doubt Harry would do it in front of any Bear during an interview. Anybody know if he cried after a Cubs loss? That's dumber than Brown's breakdown.

At the next "event" sombody should dump a bottle of tequila on the floor and see if he cries.

Man, reading these reviews does not make me want to listen to this show in 15 minutes. Mac, that's about the damned stupidest thing I've ever heard. Wanting Huaard as your QB? C'mon, let's calm down a bit.

Harry, that's about the most asshole thing I've heard him do. Too soon might apply though I don't think I'd ever find it funny. I suppose there were jokes about the Bills tight end today too?

If this truly has been the ride of the show today, I may not be on for long. Here's hoping 5:00 is a better listen....

Favre fan, I wasn't saying they were on the same parallel but just feared that Harry may go down that road too. He enjoys making fun of people when they die or are on their death bed. Mac and Jurko rarely go down that road. God forbid anyone make fun of the pony he had to put down back in the day though from what I hear. :roll:

Mac your Grossman analysis is predictable and your hate for Grossman is getting awfully close to Murph’s hate of everything Jacque Jones. Comparing something you do to Mike Murphy is something I never thought I would do.

I guess you didn’t listen much last season. Every game Grossman played well he refused to give the guy credit but was quick to slam him when he played a bad game. Grossman was the least of the Bears problems yesterday but Mac couldn’t help himself.

Farvefan you were listening to your imaginary radio. Grossman played better than any quarterback in the league for the first 5 games and Mac never gave him any credit. Once he had that stinker against Arizona Mac bashed the guy and never let up. Even after playing great against the 49ers the following week Mac bashed him for not scoring points in the second half of a game they were leading 41-0 at halftime.

Farvefan you are completely missing the point but I can't say I didn't expect that. I know how you feel about Grossman. I don't have a problem with Mac not liking Grossman the quarterback(I said earlier in this thread I didn't have a problem with Jurko not liking him either)all I ask for is him to be objective. I don't think that's too much to ask a professional to do.

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Yeah and I think he is. You are the one missing the point Nas. Saying a bad QB is a bad QB is pretty objective in my eyes. You are about the least objective poster on this site with your Harry-esque opinions.

I don't claim to be anything else but a homer. I've been posting on this board for 2 1/2 years and my love for all Chicago teams is unquestioned. The difference between Mac and me is he makes a living doing this and I don't. I'm a fan and Mac is supposed to be a professional. You don't like Grossman either so I'm sure you believe any bashing of him is warranted. Jurko doesn't like Grossman but can still be objective. Bash away when he sucks but give him his props when he plays well. Analyze a game without starting with the same talking points. That shouldn't be too much to ask arguably the best sports radio host in Chicago.

Another thread derailed by Rex.

Baby girl Spaulding will be here in 14 days or less.

Mike Brown must have never gone out with Harry on summer night in Wrigleyville.

Harry is getting on my nerves lately.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:11 pm ]
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OK Nas, you dont seem to be able to be objective in your unconditional love for Grossman either. Mac saying he would take Huard over him was stupid, but Jurko said he would much rather have Griese rather than Grossman, and you say he is objective, so maybe you could be wrong when it comes to Grossman. Also the name of the thread isnt even true, his biggest criticism is the offensive line, which was also mine. So stop making judgements based on 3 minutes of convo and go back to B&B

Author:	HappyHour Jason [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:12 pm ]
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Nas you listen to B&B

Author:	BD [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:14 pm ]
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Taking Damon Huard over Rex Grossman is just stupid.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:17 pm ]
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Nas wrote: FavreFan86 wrote: OK Nas, you dont seem to be able to be objective in your unconditional love for Grossman either. Mac saying he would take Huard over him was stupid, but Jurko said he would much rather have Griese rather than Grossman, and you say he is objective, so maybe you could be wrong when it comes to Grossman. Also the name of the thread isnt even true, his biggest criticism is the offensive line, which was also mine. So stop making judgements based on 3 minutes of convo and go back to B&B I'm not on the radio. I'm a fan posting on a message board and if you read my thoughts on the game yesterday I was critical of his dumb fumble. His fumble is too easy to criticize, it wasnt even forced and it was obviously a stupid fumble and its one of Rex's many problems. He led them to 3 points and 4 turnovers yesterday. Im not saying they are all his fault, because like I have said over and over again your biggest problem is the line, not the Grossman or Benson, but they arent far behind. How can you critricize Mac for saying Rex didnt do shit yesterday..... He didnt! Like Mac said, he made some decent throws, but is the bar so low that we point to an NFL QB making NFL throws as a good thing. He definitely didnt lose the game for them but he did not do anything to help them win it either.

Author:	Spaulding [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:22 pm ]
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If Mac is the one trick pony, Harry is his relative the horse's ass today. He's making fun of Mike Brown for crying. His emotions got the better of him and his career is probably over. I can't fault the guy for that and I highly doubt Harry would do it in front of any Bear during an interview. Anybody know if he cried after a Cubs loss? That's dumber than Brown's breakdown. At the next "event" sombody should dump a bottle of tequila on the floor and see if he cries.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:26 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote: If Mac is the one trick pony, Harry is his relative the horse's ass today. He's making fun of Mike Brown for crying. His emotions got the better of him and his career is probably over. I can't fault the guy for that and I highly doubt Harry would do it in front of any Bear during an interview. Anybody know if he cried after a Cubs loss? That's dumber than Brown's breakdown. At the next "event" sombody should dump a bottle of tequila on the floor and see if he cries. Yeah I completely agree, Ive never heard anybody not named North on the radio say something stupider in recent memory. Great point about saying it in front of the Bears, he would never say that in the clubhouse afterwards, which is too bad because then we would be down to Mac and Jurko, which is what most us want.

Author:	bigfan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:28 pm ]
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I PREDICT Huard could be dead after next weekend

Author:	Woodridge Ryan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:44 pm ]
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Man, reading these reviews does not make me want to listen to this show in 15 minutes. Mac, that's about the damned stupidest thing I've ever heard. Wanting Huaard as your QB? C'mon, let's calm down a bit. Harry, that's about the most asshole thing I've heard him do. Too soon might apply though I don't think I'd ever find it funny. I suppose there were jokes about the Bills tight end today too? If this truly has been the ride of the show today, I may not be on for long. Here's hoping 5:00 is a better listen....

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:50 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote: Man, reading these reviews does not make me want to listen to this show in 15 minutes. Mac, that's about the damned stupidest thing I've ever heard. Wanting Huaard as your QB? C'mon, let's calm down a bit. Harry, that's about the most asshole thing I've heard him do. Too soon might apply though I don't think I'd ever find it funny. I suppose there were jokes about the Bills tight end today too? If this truly has been the ride of the show today, I may not be on for long. Here's hoping 5:00 is a better listen.... Mac actually was very respectful on that matter. Thats a life and death situation, and as much as I like Mike Brown, they arent really on the same paralell and I think they realize that, and Mac and Jurko rightly lambasted Harry for his stupid comment.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:56 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote: Favre fan, I wasn't saying they were on the same parallel but just feared that Harry may go down that road too. He enjoys making fun of people when they die or are on their death bed. Mac and Jurko rarely go down that road. God forbid anyone make fun of the pony he had to put down back in the day though from what I hear. Yeah I knew you werent comparing the two, just trying to put your mind at ease that they drew the line somewhere. Quote: Mac your Grossman analysis is predictable and your hate for Grossman is getting awfully close to Murph’s hate of everything Jacque Jones. Comparing something you do to Mike Murphy is something I never thought I would do. Again Nas, its not blind hatred when you point out a subpar QB is being a subpar QB.

Author:	BD [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:06 pm ]
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Nas wrote: I guess you didn’t listen much last season. Every game Grossman played well he refused to give the guy credit but was quick to slam him when he played a bad game. Grossman was the least of the Bears problems yesterday but Mac couldn’t help himself. Very accurate.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:08 pm ]
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Nas wrote: I guess you didn’t listen much last season. Every game Grossman played well he refused to give the guy credit but was quick to slam him when he played a bad game. Grossman was the least of the Bears problems yesterday but Mac couldn’t help himself. You cant judge him on a game by game basis, especially because hes so inconsistent. If I remember correctly, after he played well last year all Mac was pointing out is that playing well for one game in the regular season doesnt mean shit. I believe he often brought up how Rex could easily single handedly kill them in a playoff game. I believe that happened against Indy. Thats the point. Rex will probably have a QB rating of 120+ against the Chiefs this week but I, like alot of people, think it wont mean shit because he will still implode when it really counts, in January.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Farvefan you were listening to your imaginary radio. Grossman played better than any quarterback in the league for the first 5 games and Mac never gave him any credit. Once he had that stinker against Arizona Mac bashed the guy and never let up. Even after playing great against the 49ers the following week Mac bashed him for not scoring points in the second half of a game they were leading 41-0 at halftime. The point is these games dont matter Nas. I mean obviously they do to an extent, but the Bears have SB dreams, not playoff dreams. Rex is going to kill them again this year just like he did last year and you wont be able to say you didnt see it coming. It takes more than a regular season great game against the 49ers to be a great QB. and from the Department of Splitting Hairs, the game against Minnesota was far from great early last year. He did make the game winning TD to Rashied but that was a pretty bad game by him besides that.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:03 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Farvefan you are completely missing the point but I can't say I didn't expect that. I know how you feel about Grossman. I don't have a problem with Mac not liking Grossman the quarterback(I said earlier in this thread I didn't have a problem with Jurko not liking him either)all I ask for is him to be objective. I don't think that's too much to ask a professional to do. Yeah and I think he is. You are the one missing the point Nas. Saying a bad QB is a bad QB is pretty objective in my eyes. You are about the least objective poster on this site with your Harry-esque opinions.

Author:	spmack [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:30 pm ]
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Popcorn in my hand with my computer seat leaned way back enjoying this

Author:	Score is doomed [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:34 pm ]
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Mac, I've given the "new, re-invigorated show" a chance. Sorry, but as long as you employ(or are paid to have on the air) Half wit Harry, you've lost a long time listener. Harry is pathetic.

Author:	Fixed Glee [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:06 pm ]
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In situations like these--where the host seems to have made up their mind about a player regardless of present performance--it's best just to change the channel whenever you hear the player's name come up. For instance, I remember Hood saying something a few years ago about how he disliked A.J. Pierzynski because of some kind of inside information. So whenever Pierzynski gets brought up, he inevitably starts hammering him. Same goes for Mac with his Grossman criticism, for whatever reason.

Author:	No Clever Moniker [ Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:28 am ]
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Sports talk radio hosts, as part of their attempts to create reaction and thus interest in their shows, choose their “whipping boys” (athletes/topics) to foist upon the public. How heavily they rely upon such vehicles varies so long as their reasoning has some credibility. Suggesting that he would prefer Damon Huard is to get a reaction, and yet at the same time it pushes Mac’s credibility paper thin. As for Sunday’s performance, Rex didn’t lose the game but he failed to get the offense into the endzone, so in that aspect he wasn’t particularly “great” either.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:37 pm ]
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Nas wrote: FavreFan wrote: Nas wrote: Farvefan you are completely missing the point but I can't say I didn't expect that. I know how you feel about Grossman. I don't have a problem with Mac not liking Grossman the quarterback(I said earlier in this thread I didn't have a problem with Jurko not liking him either)all I ask for is him to be objective. I don't think that's too much to ask a professional to do. Yeah and I think he is. You are the one missing the point Nas. Saying a bad QB is a bad QB is pretty objective in my eyes. You are about the least objective poster on this site with your Harry-esque opinions. I don't claim to be anything else but a homer. I've been posting on this board for 2 1/2 years and my love for all Chicago teams is unquestioned. The difference between Mac and me is he makes a living doing this and I don't. I'm a fan and Mac is supposed to be a professional. You don't like Grossman either so I'm sure you believe any bashing of him is warranted. Jurko doesn't like Grossman but can still be objective. Bash away when he sucks but give him his props when he plays well. Analyze a game without starting with the same talking points. That shouldn't be too much to ask arguably the best sports radio host in Chicago. I understand the difference but I think he is objective. Thats where we disagree because I think its a far cry to say Grossman played well. He didnt play as poorly as he is capable of I guess.

Author:	Spaulding [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:46 pm ]
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Another thread derailed by Rex. SID....if we agree again something is wrong. It's weird how Harry can garner very little sympathy for Mike Brown but when Kerry Wood is injured for the gazillionth time it's oh poor Kerry he's a good guy. Kerry Wood also injurs himself with his poor mechanics. Baby girl Spaulding will be here in 14 days or less.

Author:	Spaulding [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:00 pm ]
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Harry is getting on my nerves lately. Curtis Armstrong is quickly becoming one of my favorite actors.

Author:	Score is doomed [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:30 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote: Another thread derailed by Rex. Baby girl Spaulding will be here in 14 days or less. I can only wish you and your family the very best!!

Author:	Woodridge Ryan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:37 pm ]
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Mike Brown must have never gone out with Harry on summer night in Wrigleyville.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:41 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote: Mike Brown must have never gone out with Harry on summer night in Wrigleyville. Haha the pathetic way he defends Trachsel I find amusing. Then again its not my team that Trachsel is squandering a division race for.

Author:	Beebo [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:49 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote: Harry is getting on my nerves lately. Harry was kind of edgey today. I guess because he wasn't feeling well; but he occasionally whined about the boys constantly busting his stones. No one felt like picking up the gauntlet, today. As for Mike Brown, what of his crying? Today they're probably negotiating an injury settlement. He knew. Have we decided on a name for Baby Spaulding, yet? Would she ever figure out the joke if you named her Wilson?

Author:	Spaulding [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:13 pm ]
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Another thing...how many times has Harry whined about something that is completely inconsequential? Brown, who from what I can tell is highly respected by his teammates, and has worked his way back from injury 3 years in a row realizes his career is probably over. Harry (of all fucking people) is going to criticize him for losing it. Puuuuhlease, spare me. No name yet but we got some nice feedback in the general section.

Author:	enigma [ Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:17 am ]
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I also think Mac is a little unfair of his criticism of Grossman. As an example last year when Grossman threw for over 330 yards against the Bucs, I believe Mac downplayed the performance by saying that it took him 44 attempts. Even in the playoff game against Seattle, when Rex threw for over 280 yards and the second longest TD pass in Bears playoff history, Mac seemed a little to critical of Grossman.

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