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Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  LOL... Mackey hit the nail on the head WEEKS AGO
Mac was all over this one over a month ago.

He indicated that Hardy Nickerson was nothing more than a 'bag holder' that got his job because he played under Lovie Smith and had a relationship with him.

Apparently Hardy Nickerson wasn't cut out for coaching. He resigned today.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football ... on.article

I've got the PERFECT replacement suggestions for him as LB Coach:

A) Bob Babich

or

B) Mike Singletary
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:43 pm ]
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No way Mike is interested in the job, seems like a position more suited for Babich(He's a terrible Dcoordinator)
Author:  Irish Boy [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:54 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
No way Mike is interested in the job, seems like a position more suited for Babich(He's a terrible Dcoordinator)


I don't buy Singletary as a coordinator. From what I've heard, he's not a great X's and O's guy, he's more of a motivation/technique type of coach. As far as Singletary is concerned, he's either a position coach or head coach, but not a D-coordinator.
Author:  Spaulding [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:27 pm ]
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Bears defense could have used a motivation/technique type of coach this past year.
Author:  Thug [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:32 pm ]
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Babich is an easy target since he's Lovie's boy. I'm fine w/ Babich getting another year after all the injuries he suffered.

Lets not forget you can't run the cover 2 w/ suck ass safeties. JA & Lovie have to wear some of the personal choices of Archuletta and letting Chris Harris walk.

No way Singletary takes a position job. He's probably going to land in Atl as HC.
Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:49 am ]
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I was joking about Singletary, he's an Asst. Head Coach and the only job he could take would be a head coaching gig.

Regarding your banter about Babich, and the injuries thing. Don't be an enabler. Indianapolis is missing SEVEN of eleven of their Super Bowl starters on defense from last year, and they didn't miss a beat - actually, they got BETTER. You know why? Their young players got coached UP.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:07 am ]
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Monte Kiffin, the father of the cover 2, is about to finish a contract in Tampa.

Leslie Frazier, who has done solid work as a coach and coordinator most recently with the Vikings, is exploring options.
Author:  Thug [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:26 am ]
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The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
Indianapolis is missing SEVEN of eleven of their Super Bowl starters on defense from last year, and they didn't miss a beat - actually, they got BETTER. You know why? Their young players got coached UP.


Indy wouldn't have made the SB without Bob Sanders returning for injury. I venture to say the Bears might have won the SB if Tommy Harris was 100% healthy. Wait a second, Ron Rivera would have still screwed it up. Scratch that.
Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:51 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Monte Kiffin, the father of the cover 2, is about to finish a contract in Tampa.

Leslie Frazier, who has done solid work as a coach and coordinator most recently with the Vikings, is exploring options.


Neither would be in the running for our LB Coach - it would be a demotion.

Frazier is still employed by the Vikes. He's simply interviewing for head coaching gigs now. He's the Ron Rivera of '08. ;)


...and Thug, if Mike Brown remained healthy all of the '06 season, I think we win that Super Bowl game. He was missed more than Tommie Harris. That blown coverage on Reggie Wayne never happens with Brownie back there. He's like another coach on the field.
Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:53 am ]
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Thug wrote:
The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
Indianapolis is missing SEVEN of eleven of their Super Bowl starters on defense from last year, and they didn't miss a beat - actually, they got BETTER. You know why? Their young players got coached UP.


Indy wouldn't have made the SB without Bob Sanders returning for injury. I venture to say the Bears might have won the SB if Tommy Harris was 100% healthy. Wait a second, Ron Rivera would have still screwed it up. Scratch that.


Tommie Harris wasn't even an active player in the playoffs or Super Bowl.
Author:  Slap Shot ED [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:03 am ]
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The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
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...and Thug, if Mike Brown remained healthy all of the '06 season, I think we win that Super Bowl game. He was missed more than Tommie Harris. That blown coverage on Reggie Wayne never happens with Brownie back there.


Wishful thinking on your part Mullet boy. Unless Mike Brown was under center that day, not fumbling the ball 4 times and throwing an interception that was ran back for a Tuddie the Bears would not of won that game that day. It was all on Rex that day.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:09 am ]
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It was not all on Rex. He certainly did not help matters, but a pass rush from the D and actually stopping the Colts (i.e. getting Goober off the field) would have done wonders as well. Rex sucked, but the defense was none better, and the gameplanning done in prep for SBXLI was awful.
Author:  Thug [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:22 am ]
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ah, i know Harris wasn't active. That was my point. The Colts got healthy at the right time.

Normally I would agree Brown would be missed more than Harris vs. the Colts O. But considering the weather conditions (driving rain) I think Harris was missed more.

Peyton threw longer then 15 yards twice all game. Once on the TD to Wayne when Manning (I think it was him) slipped. But if you remember correctly Wayne still had to practically back peddle to catch the ball because it was thrown behind him. A defender close to Wayne intercepts that pass or at least knocks it down.

The other down field pass Chris Harris intercepted. While we continued to play our cover 2 Peyton picked it apart because there was no pressure w/ our front four. That's why I say Tommy Harris might have made a difference. More pressure on Manning would have been key. Especially w/ PM being inaccurate down field.

Urlacher was seen yelling at Rivera from the field because of the lack of pressure in the 2nd or 3rd Q.
Author:  Thug [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:23 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
It was not all on Rex. He certainly did not help matters, but a pass rush from the D and actually stopping the Colts (i.e. getting Goober off the field) would have done wonders as well. Rex sucked, but the defense was none better, and the gameplanning done in prep for SBXLI was awful.


Yeah that's right. Rex hardly touched the ball in the 3rd Q.

Agree, agree, and agree more.
Author:  Slap Shot ED [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:33 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
It was not all on Rex. He certainly did not help matters, but a pass rush from the D and actually stopping the Colts (i.e. getting Goober off the field) would have done wonders as well.


The Bears D held the Colts and Manning to 239 yards passing and picked him off once and a total of 2 touchdowns to the NFL's#1 offense who was averaging 31 points a game and over 468 yards per game. The score was 22 -17 before Rex threw the pick to Hayden who ran it back for a touchdown. Rex had 3 COSTLY FUMBLES in 3 drives inside the Colts 45 that day. You hold the Colts offense to 22 points they should of won the game.

The Bears D was dropping into the cover 2 and Tampa 2 and rushing 4 most of the day to stop the passing game and expect for the blown coverage they did that. They did run the ball on the Bears that day but again they stopped Manning which set up the Bears to beat them only if Rex was mistake free which we all know he was not.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:41 am ]
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They did not stop Goober. Sure, they prevented the big play, but the Colts dinked and dunked thier way to victory. Some adjustments, or a pass rush would have changed that. Maybe the numbers for the Chico's boys looked alright in the newspaper the next day, but that does not tell everything. The Bears could not stop the Colts when they needed to on 3rd down. Also, lets give Ron Turner and/or Lovie Smith some blame here as well for abandoning the run for whatever reason.

Listen, I'm not saying Rex gets a gold star for how he played in the Super Bowl, all I'm saying is that there was plenty of blame to go around. About the only guy you can't pin that SB loss on is Devin Hester, and maybe Patrick Mannely. He is 100% blame free. Anyone and everyone else you can point a finger at and find something they did wrong.

My point again; Rex sucked, but he had lots of company-- mainly from his coaching staff and the Defense.
Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:52 am ]
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I think you guys are being rather presumptious insinuating that it was Ron Rivera's defensive scheme that cost the Bears the Super Bowl. That would be like blaming anybody other than Mike Shanahan if Denver's offense sucked. This is Lovie's defense - sorry gang. And that's probably why Ron Rivera couldn't land a Head Coaching gig. It's also why it took Gary Kubiak so long, not to mention the Sugar Bear looking head coach in Cleveland, Romeo Crennel - who was always in Belicheck's shadow.

Given the point differential in the fourth quarter when Rex Grossman through that INT for a TD the other way - THAT was the diffence making play in the game.

...and the passes to the RBs in the flat prevented the Bears defense from getting off the field all night long.
Author:  BigW72 [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:17 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
No way Mike is interested in the job, seems like a position more suited for Babich(He's a terrible Dcoordinator)


Babich isn't the problem. He was brought in to be a puppet.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:26 pm ]
Post subject: 
The Gridiron Assassin wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Monte Kiffin, the father of the cover 2, is about to finish a contract in Tampa.

Leslie Frazier, who has done solid work as a coach and coordinator most recently with the Vikings, is exploring options.


Neither would be in the running for our LB Coach - it would be a demotion.

Frazier is still employed by the Vikes. He's simply interviewing for head coaching gigs now. He's the Ron Rivera of '08. ;)


...and Thug, if Mike Brown remained healthy all of the '06 season, I think we win that Super Bowl game. He was missed more than Tommie Harris. That blown coverage on Reggie Wayne never happens with Brownie back there. He's like another coach on the field.


I was living in your bob babich drops to LB coach scenario.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:25 pm ]
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This is Lovie's defense - sorry gang.


I absolutely agree Grid. Don't think for a minute it's anyone else's.





Da Colts :wink:
Author:  STU-GOTZ [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:08 pm ]
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quote="Woodridge Ryan"]
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This is Lovie's defense - sorry gang.


I absolutely agree Grid. Don't think for a minute it's anyone else's.



All you need to veryfy that is the human piece of burnt toast called Adam Archeletta. The deceased Sean Taylor could of made better tackles and covered wide outs better than that piece of crap.

Could of called the defense a weekend at Lovie's.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:12 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Quote:
This is Lovie's defense - sorry gang.


I absolutely agree Bob. Don't think for a minute it's anyone else's.





Da Colts :wink:


Indiana has no superfan lingo. You can't use our slogan you pud. :p
Author:  Beef Rockmore [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:36 pm ]
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STU-GOTZ wrote:
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quote="Woodridge Ryan"]
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This is Lovie's defense - sorry gang.


I absolutely agree Grid. Don't think for a minute it's anyone else's.



All you need to veryfy that is the human piece of burnt toast called Adam Archeletta. The deceased Sean Taylor could of made better tackles and covered wide outs better than that piece of crap.

Could of called the defense a weekend at Lovie's.


I agree, Sean Taylor's dead lifeless body might trip somebody up, whereas Archuleta would take a bad angle and tackle the jet stream behind the ball carrier.
Author:  hawkeye [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:40 pm ]
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Beef Rockmore wrote:
STU-GOTZ wrote:
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quote="Woodridge Ryan"]
Quote:
This is Lovie's defense - sorry gang.


I absolutely agree Grid. Don't think for a minute it's anyone else's.



All you need to veryfy that is the human piece of burnt toast called Adam Archeletta. The deceased Sean Taylor could of made better tackles and covered wide outs better than that piece of crap.

Could of called the defense a weekend at Lovie's.


I agree, Sean Taylor's dead lifeless body might trip somebody up, whereas Archuleta would take a bad angle and tackle the jet stream behind the ball carrier.


The saddest part about this tongue in cheek comment is that it is actually true :cry:
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