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quote="Mac"]I accept criticism because I have high expectations of myself and my show. The more I've thought about it this... and it's the most I've pondered anything relating to the Bulls in a long, long time... the worse I feel.

I accept criticism because I have high expectations of myself and my show. The more I've thought about it this... and it's the most I've pondered anything relating to the Bulls in a long, long time... the worse I feel. I wouldn't call the Duhon visit a failure, but it raised awareness to something my show doesn't do well: tough interviews. The blame with me lies in not following up his answers that were iffy. Nobody is more disappointed in that than I am.

It was made worse when Harry saluted him for donating money to Katrina victims, followed by the "Could you have gotten eight tickets for the Duke-North Carolina game?" Absolutely the wrong day to be "playing nice" with Duhon. I always have experienced my skin crawling when he kisses butt, but on a day when the entire city is pissed at Duhon, that was brutal. It was even more egregious that he was unwilling to look objectively at what we did or didn't do in the interview. But... that's Harry: every interview is great; every joke is funny; every show we do is the best.

Moving forward, I resolve to do it differently the next time we are in a position to do a "tough interview" with a jocko who's on everybody's shit list. I'll ask more than two or three questions at the beginning... I'll follow up on anything that is objectionable... and I'll turn off Mike 4 if smooching commences. There are a couple reasons I asked the engineers to put on/off buttons for all mikes at my station in the studio; that's among them.

Sorry for not remembering your given name, FavreFan. I didn't have your e-mail still in front of me when I went back to discussing its content much later in the show.

It's Chris freakin Duhon. Who cares?

They should have asked him if had any bets on the Duke/NC game based on yesterdays webbie.

What Frank is trying to say is that the White guys are a better interview. :wink:

Personally, if I were one of your partners, I'd be insulted at some of the stuff you put out here for public consumption. Coming on here after the Duhon interview (which I fully admit I did not hear) and throwing Harry under the bus just adds to my feeling of why would I want to listen to this dysfunctional show where the so-called "driver" of the show lets it deteriorate to the point where he has to come on a message board later and apologize for the show's content and the contibutions of his partners?

The show is tired. Old material, old music, old opinions and a lazy host. Harry is just the useless humorless wit added for no purpose. They are incapable of quality interviews and are viewed as a 2nd rate show. The ratings would slide dramatically if they had competition from anything other than an old, stale B&B show. Duhon was just the latest in embarrassing interviews they have conducted. It seems more and more former loyal listeners, like myself, have found this show very un-interesting and pretty much a "call it in" effort.

I'll await the ALS, lead by Fredo, coming on to bash me and others who think the show has gone downhill.

It seems more and more former readers of his posts, like myself. . .

Nice job on throwing Harry under the bus Mac, you are a great team player.

Author:	Mac [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:35 am ]
Post subject:	All this Duhon noise
I accept criticism because I have high expectations of myself and my show. The more I've thought about it this... and it's the most I've pondered anything relating to the Bulls in a long, long time... the worse I feel. I wouldn't call the Duhon visit a failure, but it raised awareness to something my show doesn't do well: tough interviews. The blame with me lies in not following up his answers that were iffy. Nobody is more disappointed in that than I am. It was made worse when Harry saluted him for donating money to Katrina victims, followed by the "Could you have gotten eight tickets for the Duke-North Carolina game?" Absolutely the wrong day to be "playing nice" with Duhon. I always have experienced my skin crawling when he kisses butt, but on a day when the entire city is pissed at Duhon, that was brutal. It was even more egregious that he was unwilling to look objectively at what we did or didn't do in the interview. But... that's Harry: every interview is great; every joke is funny; every show we do is the best. Moving forward, I resolve to do it differently the next time we are in a position to do a "tough interview" with a jocko who's on everybody's shit list. I'll ask more than two or three questions at the beginning... I'll follow up on anything that is objectionable... and I'll turn off Mike 4 if smooching commences. There are a couple reasons I asked the engineers to put on/off buttons for all mikes at my station in the studio; that's among them. Sorry for not remembering your given name, FavreFan. I didn't have your e-mail still in front of me when I went back to discussing its content much later in the show.

Author:	STU-GOTZ [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: All this Duhon noise
[ Quote: quote="Mac"]I accept criticism because I have high expectations of myself and my show. The more I've thought about it this... and it's the most I've pondered anything relating to the Bulls in a long, long time... the worse I feel. I Your caving into all these DOUCHEBAGS complaints about an interview? What happen to the Edgy Dan Mcneil ? You would of said FUCK OFF, years ago and for the love of Christ you hate the Bulls so don't come on here with your tail between your legs and give me the woes as me dribble. Don't talk Bulls is your credo and live by that and I want you a little more edgy , like the old days. Now get back out there and be the prick you used to be GOD DAM IT !!!

Author:	BigW72 [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: All this Duhon noise
Mac wrote: I accept criticism because I have high expectations of myself and my show. The more I've thought about it this... and it's the most I've pondered anything relating to the Bulls in a long, long time... the worse I feel. I wouldn't call the Duhon visit a failure, but it raised awareness to something my show doesn't do well: tough interviews. The blame with me lies in not following up his answers that were iffy. Nobody is more disappointed in that than I am. It was made worse when Harry saluted him for donating money to Katrina victims, followed by the "Could you have gotten eight tickets for the Duke-North Carolina game?" Absolutely the wrong day to be "playing nice" with Duhon. I always have experienced my skin crawling when he kisses butt, but on a day when the entire city is pissed at Duhon, that was brutal. It was even more egregious that he was unwilling to look objectively at what we did or didn't do in the interview. But... that's Harry: every interview is great; every joke is funny; every show we do is the best. Moving forward, I resolve to do it differently the next time we are in a position to do a "tough interview" with a jocko who's on everybody's shit list. I'll ask more than two or three questions at the beginning... I'll follow up on anything that is objectionable... and I'll turn off Mike 4 if smooching commences. There are a couple reasons I asked the engineers to put on/off buttons for all mikes at my station in the studio; that's among them. Sorry for not remembering your given name, FavreFan. I didn't have your e-mail still in front of me when I went back to discussing its content much later in the show. Mac, With all due respect, the fact that you even have to have on/off buttons for your partners microphones speaks volumes about the show. It can be a good show, but as much as I hate to admit it, I quite often find myself down the dial a majority of the time. Your honesty is appreciated and your assessment is accurate.

Author:	Mac [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:04 am ]
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STU, my penchant for telling people to "fuck off" almost invariably regards an argument on sports or personal likes/dislikes or when someone is just being stupid or rude. When I refuse to listen to constructive criticism from my own customers... well... that's the day I should quit and go guide inexperienced fishermen on Eagle Lake in Northwest Ontario. I'm not saying they're always right and I always should adjust. Some criticisms are ignored (replaying interviews before 6... on which I know I'm right)... but they always must be heard. In this case, FavreFan was on the money.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:05 am ]
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I believe every driver of every show has "on off" buttons, for simple reasons like somebody starts coughing, or a slip and somebody swears. It shouldn't happen often, but it does. I remember reading here that one time Mac said he had to turn Harry's mic off because he was rustling newspapers. That should never happen, but its for reasons like that more so than to prevent Harry from constant ass licking. Mac, I think if the Duhon and Ben Gordon interviews have taught us anything its that Bulls players couldn't give 2 shits about being on the radio with you. Skiles, Boylan, Pax have all been very accomodating but it seemed as though you were wasting the others' time by having them on. Easier said than done when your station is the flagship, but I'd just as soon not have any Bulls player on anymore.

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Author:	walkrman5 [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:09 am ]
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Personally I think Mac has it nailed right on the head. I agree that there should have been some follow ups and he called have been called out to the carpet more. I also agree that Harry's "suck up" questions almost made me puke. Mac...for me...you are right on in your assessment, but at the end of the day it is not worth beating yourself up over either. It's Chris freakin Duhon. Who cares? - I guess all the more reason you guys could have stepped out a little more.

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:16 am ]
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Mac, I appreciate the reply and its one of the continuing reasons I will always flip you guys on first before the show down the dial. I could never, ever imagine Bernsie coming on here and posting sentiments similar to these. As for the email, I probably came off a little bit more harsh on you then I should have. It was definitely Harry "How cool is that" Tienowitz that annoyed me the most during that interview. I was also dissapointed with Jurko's lack of F&P considering how critical he has been of the Bulls since day 1(and on the money I should add). However, I look at you as the leader of that show and I also knew you would be the one to look at the criticism objectively. I should have added a Thumbs Up to Jurko though, for at least still being awake by the time the 9th question rolled around.

Author:	sportsfan [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:18 am ]
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walkrman5 wrote: It's Chris freakin Duhon. Who cares? No one cares, but the issue is that they started the show absolutely railing on Duhon. Then when they interviewed him, they didn't have the guts to express what they had expressed at the top of the show. The one thing which I like about North's show is that he is a tough interviewer. I believe MJH could benefit from being tougher/objectively critical . . . when it's relevant and appropriate.

Author:	johnbucktown [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:19 am ]
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i thought you guys drilled him with questions until the last two. what's wrong with giving him a couple softballs at the end of the interview so you don't make him cry? the interview was fine!

Author:	doug - evergreen park [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:33 am ]
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They should have asked him if had any bets on the Duke/NC game based on yesterdays webbie.

Author:	FredsMissingNuts [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:34 am ]
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Quote: I accept criticism because I have high expectations of myself and my show. The more I've thought about it this... and it's the most I've pondered anything relating to the Bulls in a long, long time... the worse I feel. I wouldn't call the Duhon visit a failure, but it raised awareness to something my show doesn't do well: tough interviews. The blame with me lies in not following up his answers that were iffy. Nobody is more disappointed in that than I am. It was made worse when Harry saluted him for donating money to Katrina victims, followed by the "Could you have gotten eight tickets for the Duke-North Carolina game?" Absolutely the wrong day to be "playing nice" with Duhon. I always have experienced my skin crawling when he kisses butt, but on a day when the entire city is pissed at Duhon, that was brutal. It was even more egregious that he was unwilling to look objectively at what we did or didn't do in the interview. But... that's Harry: every interview is great; every joke is funny; every show we do is the best. Moving forward, I resolve to do it differently the next time we are in a position to do a "tough interview" with a jocko who's on everybody's shit list. I'll ask more than two or three questions at the beginning... I'll follow up on anything that is objectionable... and I'll turn off Mike 4 if smooching commences. There are a couple reasons I asked the engineers to put on/off buttons for all mikes at my station in the studio; that's among them. Sorry for not remembering your given name, FavreFan. I didn't have your e-mail still in front of me when I went back to discussing its content much later in the show. Mac, its you're show, you should have kept par with what you were saying before he got on the air and to blame Harry is just a douchebag thing to do, its on you. You are starting to sound like Boers when it came to their show doing interviews with Phil Jackson and Bill Parcells, "oh it wasn't he right time and we went in a different direction". Bullshit, you guys get away with this crap all the time, spouting off without having to face most of the guys you rip, but when you do come face to face or do a phone interview, its all good because most people in your business don't have the sack to ask the tough questions. Nice job on throwing Harry under the bus Mac, you are a great team player. Just make sure you hold you're buddy Jurko to the same standards or does he pass because you two are so close? Thats fair. Mac, I will give you this, you show up and take the heat, no problem with that, but take away the Kramer flare up you had years ago, who have you really ever pissed off in a interview by asking a tough question? I don't recall anyone and all that talk about being tough on Kenny Williams, then a pic shows up where he is laughing it up with you and the guys, you have no creditability any longer Mac, thats how I see it.

Author:	Brick [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:39 am ]
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Harry asked by far the worst question and then saw nothing wrong with it. That's why some of the blame is falling on Harry. Did you listen to the interview FredsMissingNuts?

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:57 am ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote: They should have asked him if had any bets on the Duke/NC game based on yesterdays webbie. They should have asked him if his mom is still working for Duke or was she only signed to a 4 year contract. They could have asked him if Jason Williams offered any career advice while they sat together.

Author:	STU-GOTZ [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:06 am ]
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[quote="Frank Coztansa Mac, I think if the Duhon and Ben Gordon interviews have taught us anything its that Bulls players couldn't give 2 shits about being on the radio with you. Skiles, Boylan, Pax have all been very accomodating but it seemed as though you were wasting the others' time by having them on. What Frank is trying to say is that the White guys are a better interview.

Author:	Score is doomed [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:24 am ]
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HI there Fredo!!

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Author:	Killer V [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:09 am ]
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What are the odds that Duhon shows up for whatever that appearance is that I've been hearing ads for on MVP? How would you like to be the car service that is being mentioned as providing transportation for him...when he most likely won't come out of his house?

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:32 am ]
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STU-GOTZ wrote: What Frank is trying to say is that the White guys are a better interview. Not true, NSJ. Norm VanLier, Stacey King, Howard Griffith, and Jason from Chatham always provide stellar insight...and sometimes even light up hats.

Author:	Pappy's Crappy [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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Mac -- your willingness to talk to us on this board and your candor are appreciated, however . . . In listening to your show (which I do with less and less frequency these days), reading your comments here, following the stories about your suspensions and union meetings, etc., it becomes increasingly obvious to me that you're not happy with your current situation. The show seems to have been good to you ratings-wise and financially, but your constant reminiscing about your dream pairings of the past and your speculation about dream lineups of the future just tell me you're not comfortable with the current arrangement as it relates to both the station you're on and the partners you're with. I don't need or want to hear that. I want the best sports talk radio show I can get, hosted by someone who seems at least remotely happy to be giving it to me. Personally, if I were one of your partners, I'd be insulted at some of the stuff you put out here for public consumption. Coming on here after the Duhon interview (which I fully admit I did not hear) and throwing Harry under the bus just adds to my feeling of why would I want to listen to this dysfunctional show where the so-called "driver" of the show lets it deteriorate to the point where he has to come on a message board later and apologize for the show's content and the contibutions of his partners? This is not the place to work out the major problems with a top-rated afternoon drive show in the Chicago market. Little tweaks, asking for our opinions, yes. Big things like how to do an interview or how you feel about Harry--work these things out among you guys and get back to me when you have a finished product of which you can be more proud to present to me. You're far from a novice in this business; you should know how to conduct an interview in a volatile situation and how to relate to your partners, given their shortcomings as you see them.

Author:	Beebo [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:18 pm ]
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Pappy's Crappy wrote: Personally, if I were one of your partners, I'd be insulted at some of the stuff you put out here for public consumption. Coming on here after the Duhon interview (which I fully admit I did not hear) and throwing Harry under the bus just adds to my feeling of why would I want to listen to this dysfunctional show where the so-called "driver" of the show lets it deteriorate to the point where he has to come on a message board later and apologize for the show's content and the contibutions of his partners? Oh, I expect sometimes his hands are on the mic switch, wondering whether to do it or not... And then it's too late. As far as I can see, Harry put out a softball some one of them could pounce on him ("enough of the softballs; we're here to dress down Duhon!"), no one took it, and now there's nothing but a flat interview. Personally, I'm getting tired of the heap of praise for Harry's witticisms that seems to pop up every 'x' minutes. The crap is starting to coagulate; for now, in my stomach... but I'm sure the "muck monster" will be walking around shortly.

Author:	Score is doomed [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:08 pm ]
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The show is tired. Old material, old music, old opinions and a lazy host. Harry is just the useless humorless wit added for no purpose. They are incapable of quality interviews and are viewed as a 2nd rate show. The ratings would slide dramatically if they had competition from anything other than an old, stale B&B show. Duhon was just the latest in embarrassing interviews they have conducted. It seems more and more former loyal listeners, like myself, have found this show very un-interesting and pretty much a "call it in" effort. I'll await the ALS, lead by Fredo, coming on to bash me and others who think the show has gone downhill.

Author:	sportsfan [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:12 pm ]
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Score is Doomed is tired. Old material, old opinions and lazy. He's just useless humorless wit adding to the board for no purpose. He's incapable of a quality thought and is viewed as a 2nd rate poster. His thoughts here are just the latest in an embarrassing series of posts he has made. It seems more and more former readers of his posts, like myself, have found his efforts very un-interesting and pretty much a "call it in" effort.

Author:	Killer V [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:13 pm ]
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Score is doomed wrote: The show is tired. Old material, old music, old opinions and a lazy host. Harry is just the useless humorless wit added for no purpose. They are incapable of quality interviews and are viewed as a 2nd rate show. The ratings would slide dramatically if they had competition from anything other than an old, stale B&B show. Duhon was just the latest in embarrassing interviews they have conducted. It seems more and more former loyal listeners, like myself, have found this show very un-interesting and pretty much a "call it in" effort. I'll await the ALS, lead by Fredo, coming on to bash me and others who think the show has gone downhill. In a shocking twist, SID doesn't like the show!

Author:	Beef Rockmore [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:50 pm ]
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Strahan'd. ...but I've moved on.

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:51 pm ]
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Some of you guys amaze me. Mac comes on here and is very receptive to our criticism, a rare and admirable quality nowadays, and you guys say he comes on here to apologize for the shows content and throw Harry under the bus. When did he throw Harry under the bus, I must have missed it. He said Harry is positive to a fault, and sees the show and most things he does through rose colored glasses, which is a fair and accurate criticism that even the Tiny One would admit to I assume(My shot glass is always half full!). SID, what shows do you like exactly? Mulli, Hanley, B&B, Silvy, Waddle, North, etc. all dont come on here and interact with us, Mac does. To criticize him for that seems a bit absurd to me. I wish all hosts treated this message board like the free focus group it is instead of dismissing it as idiotic ramblings from clueless listeners.

Author:	Mike Mikerson [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:56 pm ]
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NSJ wrote: It seems more and more former readers of his posts, like myself. . . How are you a "former" reader of his posts whilst commenting on and satirizing his most recent?

Author:	STU-GOTZ [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:00 pm ]
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Score is doomed wrote: The show is tired. Old material, old music, old opinions and a lazy host. Harry is just the useless humorless wit added for no purpose. They are incapable of quality interviews and are viewed as a 2nd rate show. The ratings would slide dramatically if they had competition from anything other than an old, stale B&B show. Duhon was just the latest in embarrassing interviews they have conducted. It seems more and more former loyal listeners, like myself, have found this show very un-interesting and pretty much a "call it in" effort. I'll await the ALS, lead by Fredo, coming on to bash me and others who think the show has gone downhill. The attention whore is out once again .... Your like George Carlin, the same lame act every night.Think of some new shit to bitch about already.I would love to know which troll you are.Know one is this stupid. I took the liberty of compiling all of your lame 1404 posts and put them all together for and took a picture of it for all to see. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m291 ... g_turd.jpg

Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:05 pm ]
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Mac, The interview WAS weak. I think it's important to be objective about the quality of your interviews. However, the debating that took place after the actual interview-about the interview, was nails on a chalkboard radio. My opinion would be, that saving that conversation for a MJH show staff meeting, might have been better.

Author:	torch! [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:	and I hate Harry
FredsMissingNuts wrote: Nice job on throwing Harry under the bus Mac, you are a great team player. This is what I got out of the post as well

Author:	torch! [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:31 pm ]
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Also, didn't hear the interview, but who the hell cares, no one's always 100%, it happens, learn from it, move on That's not mentioning it's fricken Chris Duhon! Who the hell cares about Duhon? This is a guy who's ticket was stamped out of Chicago with that trade, won't play much all year anyways, anyone who follows the Bulls knows there's been a lot worse moments this year, and plus, "the whole city is mad at him" = the lame media trying to orgasm about something negative, Bulls fans and most of the people who hate the NBA could care less.