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Television ratings would dispute your sentiment on nobody watching NASCAR... and not just in the South/Southeast.

The hockey that I have seen seems entertaining but I could not really appreciate it the way I can appreciate a well played basketball game unless I took a great deal of time to understand the nuances involved.

Boilermaker Rick wrote: Now for the basketball vs. hockey debate. The Hawks are as exciting as they have been in a long time. The Bulls are down this year after a couple year run. Part of the reason that the Hawks are so exciting is because there is very little excitement to compare it to. I still remember going to the UC to watch the Bulls win championships. That kind of tempers the enthusiasm when they are fighting a losing battle to make the playoffs in a weak conference.

Rick, I'm making this as a blanket statement... not just comparing this year's Hawks to this year's Bulls. To some of us, there is no more exciting sport to see live than NHL hockey. That was my point, but you're right on the Bulls... what a dud of a season and what a group of assholes Jim Boylan has been asked to babysit. Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend. If an NHL player did that, his own teammates would beat the shit out of him; it never would need to go to the management team for a sentence. Hockey, and hockey players, are just inherently cooler than their winter counterparts.

It's a shame that hockey doesn't translate to television, and a real tragedy that their 'national' exposure is on some cable channel most people don't even know exists.

In Norman Chad's book "Hold On Honey, I'll Take You To The Hospital At Halftime," he says, of hockey on television, "Even on a projection screen, the puck looks like a runaway bread crumb."

For those of you previously unwilling to give this sport a chance, I strongly encourage you to give it a try next season. Take in a couple games at the United Center

Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend.

"YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE THE GREAT ASSHOLIO----Are you threatening me?"
A line from NHL Mis-Commissioner Gary "Beavis" Bettman!

where I am sitting at soldiers field

...the bottom line is that Red is indeed rising.

Frank, they had an MJH night at the UC for the Blackhawks game back in November or December if I'm not mistaken. It was a great time.

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

where I am sitting at soldiers field

After reading this, it does not surprise me in the least as to why you cannot appreciate the NFL.

The tailgating and drinking is a blast, but I find myself hoping the game is over quickly about 2 minutes into the second half.

Vince that's Burish, yeah? Mac, I couldn't agree more. Back in the day I worked for a company that did quite a bit of buisness wiht the Hawks, Bulls and Sox. HANDS down the best in the bunch were the hockey players.

Hockey is truly a team sport, much like my other sporting love; Lacrosse.

CMS

Television ratings would dispute your sentiment on nobody watching NASCAR

Author:	Mac [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:57 am ]
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.... I am reminded why I always have preferred hockey over hoops. Sunday's matinee against the road weary Blues, with playoff elimination on the line, was physical, artful, exciting. James Wisniewski's rocket from the deep slot with 54 ticks left bailed out Patrick Kane (who had turned it over on the Blues' go-ahead goal) and the Hawks. Kane then redeemed himself by potting a rebound in overtime... to the delight of more than 19,000. "Everybody was on their feet, screaming 'kill, kill, kill.' ... This is hockey!" For those of you previously unwilling to give this sport a chance, I strongly encourage you to give it a try next season. Take in a couple games at the United Center, then report to us here if you think NBA games provide more entertainment.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:00 am ]
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I watch NASCAR. I don't have the energy to be a proponent of two sports nobody cares about. But, I wish you great success in your efforts to win over the masses.

Author:	Mac [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:05 am ]
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Television ratings would dispute your sentiment on nobody watching NASCAR... and not just in the South/Southeast.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:11 am ]
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I should have been more specific. I meant here. My world does not extend beyond these virtual CSFMB walls. However, I think the ratings last year were not that great. But, I won't hijack your thread. Go HAWKS!!

Author:	kerchungathunk [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:11 am ]
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Mac wrote: Television ratings would dispute your sentiment on nobody watching NASCAR... and not just in the South/Southeast. By all means, please talk more pucks on the show. Red is indeed rising in popularity. However, I beg you to keep the left turn ad nauseum festival off the air. If you do start talking about a sport that belongs south of the Manson/Nixon line, you're going to have to get a sound drop like the Hawks horn. A screech of tires and a smash into the wall perhaps?

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Author:	Brick [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:22 am ]
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Hawks games are no doubt enjoyable. I returned from a long hiatus of attending them this year and had a great time. The Hawks are doing a good job of selling change and the future. The last time I remember this much excitement about the Hawks it was when Chelios was still here. Now for the basketball vs. hockey debate. The Hawks are as exciting as they have been in a long time. The Bulls are down this year after a couple year run. Part of the reason that the Hawks are so exciting is because there is very little excitement to compare it to. I still remember going to the UC to watch the Bulls win championships. That kind of tempers the enthusiasm when they are fighting a losing battle to make the playoffs in a weak conference. The Hawks are exciting, but it's time to step up and make the playoffs and meet the potential that they are selling. They have some great young talent, but I've heard it before from the Hawks. I would recommend everyone to attend a hockey game if they can but I don't think it's really fair to compare the excitement generated by a downtrodden team battling to make the playoffs and another team who has made the playoffs the past couple years and has 6 NBA championships in the minds of just about every fan. I won't truly get excited about the Hawks until I see them do something in the playoffs and I find out that it's more than marketing and a promise that the future will be better than the past.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:25 am ]
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Mac, Ive started following the Hawks for the first time ever this season. I havent gone to a game but I have been pleasantly surprised by how entertained I have been watching some of their games. I definitely plan on going to a few next season. I can see your point about the NHL vs NBA, but if you watch other teams besides the Bulls(Which I know you wont and I respect that) and turn on some Western Conference top tier NBA ball, I dont know if sports gets much more exciting than that. Seeing all three games of Boston sweeping the Texas Triangle, catching the Warriors/Lakers game last night, seems like there is a great game on every night. Tonight we get part II of GS/LA and PHX/DET should be a great game.

Author:	Mac [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:32 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Now for the basketball vs. hockey debate. The Hawks are as exciting as they have been in a long time. The Bulls are down this year after a couple year run. Part of the reason that the Hawks are so exciting is because there is very little excitement to compare it to. I still remember going to the UC to watch the Bulls win championships. That kind of tempers the enthusiasm when they are fighting a losing battle to make the playoffs in a weak conference. Rick, I'm making this as a blanket statement... not just comparing this year's Hawks to this year's Bulls. To some of us, there is no more exciting sport to see live than NHL hockey. That was my point, but you're right on the Bulls... what a dud of a season and what a group of assholes Jim Boylan has been asked to babysit. Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend. If an NHL player did that, his own teammates would beat the shit out of him; it never would need to go to the management team for a sentence. Hockey, and hockey players, are just inherently cooler than their winter counterparts.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:33 am ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: The hockey that I have seen seems entertaining but I could not really appreciate it the way I can appreciate a well played basketball game unless I took a great deal of time to understand the nuances involved. I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head as to why Ill always prefer the NBA, Mac will always prefer the NHL, etc. When you grow up loving a sport, nobody is going to convince you another one is better, especially one that you know virtually nothing about.

Author:	grobber33 [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:59 am ]
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Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend. "YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE THE GREAT ASSHOLIO----Are you threatening me?" A line from NHL Mis-Commissioner Gary "Beavis" Bettman! Seriously, great NHL action in person always beats great NBA action(MJ days notwithstanding).

Author:	Brick [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:01 am ]
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Mac wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Now for the basketball vs. hockey debate. The Hawks are as exciting as they have been in a long time. The Bulls are down this year after a couple year run. Part of the reason that the Hawks are so exciting is because there is very little excitement to compare it to. I still remember going to the UC to watch the Bulls win championships. That kind of tempers the enthusiasm when they are fighting a losing battle to make the playoffs in a weak conference. Rick, I'm making this as a blanket statement... not just comparing this year's Hawks to this year's Bulls. To some of us, there is no more exciting sport to see live than NHL hockey. That was my point, but you're right on the Bulls... what a dud of a season and what a group of assholes Jim Boylan has been asked to babysit. Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend. If an NHL player did that, his own teammates would beat the shit out of him; it never would need to go to the management team for a sentence. Hockey, and hockey players, are just inherently cooler than their winter counterparts. I can agree with that. I'm just waiting for actual success before I totally buy in on the Hawks. This season has been good, but it's time to generate some excitement for the present.

Author:	The Gridiron Assassin [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:11 am ]
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It's a shame that hockey doesn't translate to television, and a real tragedy that their 'national' exposure is on some cable channel most people don't even know exists. Hockey is so much better live in person than on TV - and I wonder if that's why it's popularity has slipped over the past decade. We know why the Blackhawks interest has faded since the early 90s - but the bottom line is that Red is indeed rising.

Author:	Killer V [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:27 am ]
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The Gridiron Assassin wrote: It's a shame that hockey doesn't translate to television, and a real tragedy that their 'national' exposure is on some cable channel most people don't even know exists. If only they could come up with a way of tracking the puck on TV. Then more people would watch...

Author:	Mac [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:38 am ]
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In Norman Chad's book "Hold On Honey, I'll Take You To The Hospital At Halftime," he says, of hockey on television, "Even on a projection screen, the puck looks like a runaway bread crumb." As big consumers of sports on radio and TV, I bet almost all of you would love that book. He takes the blade to everything and everybody, including an entire chapter devoted to Berman bashing.

Author:	The Gridiron Assassin [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:50 am ]
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If I'm not mistaken, Norman Chad (as of a few years ago) was Mac's favorite sports personality to interview - but he won by default as Matt Millen would no longer come on the air. ...to busy drafting wide receivers no doubt '03 WR Charles Rogers '04 WR Roy Williams '05 WR Mike Williams '06 on hiatus from 1st round WRs - took LB Ernie Sims (who contributed more than the past three first round WRs in his rookie season alone) '07 WR Calvin Johnson

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Author:	Killer V [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:57 am ]
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Mac wrote: In Norman Chad's book "Hold On Honey, I'll Take You To The Hospital At Halftime," he says, of hockey on television, "Even on a projection screen, the puck looks like a runaway bread crumb." I realize that, Mac. I was referring to the grand old days of when the networks were applying their "magic" to highlight the puck and make it appear more "comet-like" upon reaching a higher speed. Swing and a miss...

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:02 pm ]
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Mac wrote: For those of you previously unwilling to give this sport a chance, I strongly encourage you to give it a try next season. Take in a couple games at the United Center I was told somebody was going to organize an outing for us drunken internet cretins. I would have attended such an event I've grown up on baseball and football. I can't say I dislike hockey, but I certainly don't care enough to start following it regularly though...at least not yet.

Author:	Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:21 pm ]
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grobber33 wrote: Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend. "YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE THE GREAT ASSHOLIO----Are you threatening me?" A line from NHL Mis-Commissioner Gary "Beavis" Bettman! That was an insult to Beavis. A lot of this is the age-old arguments brought up by ken and killerv. I think in the end, it takes some commitment to understand either sport to truly get the excitement out of it. I know hockey inside and out, I understand the fundamentals of the game and I know the plays and how they develop. With basketball, its very similar. As long as the talent levels of both teams are average or above, its an exciting watch for me. In parallel to this, I have a very tough time watching football. I cant see the ball or the play from where I am sitting at soldiers field, and to me it usually just looks like a giant pileup of players. The plays are way too intriquite for my simple mind and I find myself having a very tough time getting excited. Hester translates very well for me, he catches a football and runs to the endzone. After that Im pretty well fooked for getting excitement. Just my two cents.

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:24 pm ]
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The Gridiron Assassin wrote: ...the bottom line is that Red is indeed rising. I thought the same thing about The Bull

Author:	buckeyejake [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:25 pm ]
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i like the nba more but go to more hockey games for i do not like the bulls, and have never really been a fan. the hawks are exciting and i cant wait for the next couple of years when they will go deep into the playoffs.

Author:	Badger Vince [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:29 pm ]
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Mac wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Now for the basketball vs. hockey debate. The Hawks are as exciting as they have been in a long time. The Bulls are down this year after a couple year run. Part of the reason that the Hawks are so exciting is because there is very little excitement to compare it to. I still remember going to the UC to watch the Bulls win championships. That kind of tempers the enthusiasm when they are fighting a losing battle to make the playoffs in a weak conference. Rick, I'm making this as a blanket statement... not just comparing this year's Hawks to this year's Bulls. To some of us, there is no more exciting sport to see live than NHL hockey. That was my point, but you're right on the Bulls... what a dud of a season and what a group of assholes Jim Boylan has been asked to babysit. Even the great Noce turned assholio over the weekend. If an NHL player did that, his own teammates would beat the shit out of him; it never would need to go to the management team for a sentence. Hockey, and hockey players, are just inherently cooler than their winter counterparts. Mac, couldn't agree with you more. And this guy would do the ass kicking! The NBA sucks as do most of the overpaid goofs in the league. I'm loving these Hawks games. Now all I need to do is work the rest of the family towards the Hawks.

Author:	Darren - Tinley Park [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:31 pm ]
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The Gridiron Assassin wrote: Frank, they had an MJH night at the UC for the Blackhawks game back in November or December if I'm not mistaken. It was a great time. But Grid, Mac had mentioned about possibly organizing a CSFMB outing. Maybe next year. I didn't grow up playing hockey, it was baseball, football and basketball. But my love for hockey is much greater than my love (or lack there of) for basketball. I actually prefer the college game over the pros because the players can actually be coached in college. So, hockey trumps basketball in my book.

Author:	Chowderhead MacSwain [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:26 pm ]
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Vince that's Burish, yeah? Mac, I couldn't agree more. Back in the day I worked for a company that did quite a bit of buisness wiht the Hawks, Bulls and Sox. HANDS down the best in the bunch were the hockey players. Hockey is truly a team sport, much like my other sporting love; Lacrosse. CMS

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:28 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: The tailgating and drinking is a blast, but I find myself hoping the game is over quickly about 2 minutes into the second half. Are you a Cubs fan?

Author:	Badger Vince [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:31 pm ]
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Chowderhead MacSwain wrote: Vince that's Burish, yeah? Mac, I couldn't agree more. Back in the day I worked for a company that did quite a bit of buisness wiht the Hawks, Bulls and Sox. HANDS down the best in the bunch were the hockey players. Hockey is truly a team sport, much like my other sporting love; Lacrosse. CMS It is.

Author:	RodeoVann [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:57 pm ]
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Mac Wrote: Quote: Television ratings would dispute your sentiment on nobody watching NASCAR I support Mac in this, but I will need to check with Pappy to see if that rating system is flawed also.