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Unless you've been living in Pittsburgh in recent years, you've probably never heard of Mark Madden, let alone had the displeasure of hearing his highly rated low-brow sports talk show on the city's ESPN-owned and operated radio station.

Lucky you.

And better yet, no one except the people in the same room with him will be listening to Madden any time soon in Pittsburgh, and perhaps anywhere else. On Tuesday, he was permanently taken off the air of 1250 ESPN, six days after making despicably vile comments concerning the news last week that Sen. Edward M. Kennedy has been diagnosed with brain cancer.

"I'm very disappointed to hear that Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts is near death because of a brain tumor," Madden said during the opening of his popular afternoon drive time show from 3-7 p.m. "I always hoped Sen. Kennedy would live long enough to be assassinated. I wonder if he got a card from the Kopechnes."

(The last sentence was a reference to Mary Jo Kopechne, a Kennedy aide who drowned in a 1969 accident, with Kennedy driving a car that plunged off a bridge in Cape Cod.)

Madden made his comments last Wednesday, but incredibly, was not initially disciplined. Instead, his immediate boss, station general manager Mike Thompson, told him he had to go on the air and apologize. Madden did, and was allowed to keep broadcasting that day, and Thursday, though he did not appear on the show Friday on what station promos often refer to as "The Mark Madden Station."

"The fact is, we took action right away," Thompson told the Pittsburgh Press-Gazette. "Frankly, it was a comment that was stupid. He admitted that. I didn't think it requires any such thing as (discipline)...I had a long talk with him after the show and went out for dinner. He clearly understands my position. He was wrong. He knows that first-hand and he also knows that (management) is involved."

Some offended listeners clearly disagreed, as did readers who learned about Madden's Kennedy comments in last Friday's editions of the Press-Gazette in a column written by Bob Smizik, a long-time Pittsburgh sports columnist. Smizik also questioned how ESPN, the sports media juggernaut, could possibly continue to allow Madden to stay on the air.

"Keep in mind that 1250 ESPN is owned by ESPN, a network that prides itself on high ethical standards," Smizik wrote. "ESPN is part of the ABC family, and ABC is owned by Disney. It only can be concluded that no one in this steep chain of command, and they should have been aware of it, felt Madden's comment merited punishment."

ESPN clearly had been aware of it, and on Tuesday following a three-day holiday weekend, the cable network finally took action.

"We've taken him off the air pursuant to our contractual right," Josh Krulewitz, ESPN's vice president of public relations told washingtonpost.com. "In the moment, we immediately said what he had said on the show was totally inappropriate. There was never any question about it, and we told Mark that. We apologized to our listeners and Mark apologized on the air.

"Since then, we had a chance to regroup, to review the situation and to take a longer look. We came to this decision and we feel it's the right decision."

The only remaining question being asked in many quarters of the Steel City is "what took them so long?"

There obviously was some outrage over Madden's initial comments, but for years he's been maligning some of Pittsburgh's more iconic sports figures with half-truths, innuendo and mostly inappropriate comments. Steelers owner Dan Rooney, golfer Arnold Palmer, football stars Jerome Bettis and Franco Harris, former Pirates manager Jim Leyland and even the late and wildly popular Steelers broadcaster Myron Cope, among many others, often were the targets of a boorish broadcaster making a six-figure salary whose main redeeming quality was the fact his show dominated his time slot with unusually high ratings.

Fair comment and criticism is one thing, but Madden often took the low-down road any chance he got, often with the exception of the Pittsburgh Penguins, a team he unabashedly rooted for as a fan on and off the air.

"The sad part is he had a following," said one long-time Pittsburgh newspaper reporter. "He's wished death on people before, even said on the air he hoped their planes crashed. He's told listeners he had sex with their wives. There was some talk about him being fired last December, but they put him on a short leash and told him this stuff had to stop. But this one was pretty bad, the worst of anything he's ever said."

"I'm not that surprised he was allowed to stay on," said one long-time Washington radio executive. "The competition for ratings in a lot of markets has driven some people nuts. So many stations are barely making it by the skin of their teeth. To survive, sometimes you do wacko things to attract an audience. It's dead wrong, but it's the reality of what's happening in the business all around the country. When you tell me what he said on the air about Kennedy, I just can't imagine anything that would keep his rear end from being dumped."

In the end, ESPN clearly did the right thing in a decision that ultimately came down from the worldwide leader's Bristol, Conn., headquarters. Madden will be paid for the duration of his contract, but sources indicated he will never appear on the station again.

Perhaps ESPN's proper but somewhat belated dismissal also will serve as a warning to some of the mean-spirited, frequently irresponsible shock-jock broadcasters who talk sports, politics or whatever in radio studios all across the country (are you listening Michael Savage?) Maybe they'll now think twice before spewing their venomous remarks.

Then again, after Don Imus was tossed off the air last year following his offensive and totally inappropriate on-air comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team, you might have thought some of these mopes might have paid attention and cleaned up their own acts.

Mark Madden surely did not, and for now (emphasis on "for now") it cost him his job. Still, how much would you care to wager that he won't be unemployed for very long. He'll be back on the air somewhere, maybe even on a rival station in Pittsburgh. Sadly, the ratings beast must be fed, and far too often, at any price.

Madden's show is expected to be replaced by syndicated radio from Chicago's ESPN1000's Mac, Jurko and Harry Show.


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Madden's show is expected to be replaced by syndicated radio from Chicago's ESPN1000's Mac, Jurko and Harry Show.


Hopefully they stick to the old sportseroo little buddy.


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I know him from WCW when he was an announcer .He blew chunk there as well.He has been and always will be a no talent hack.Hope the boys can pull it off there


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Madden did some announcing in WCW years ago. He was AWFUL.


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Missed the boat with this. Cubs hardly play the Pirates anymore this year.

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Madden did some announcing in WCW years ago. He was AWFUL.

Yes, and if I remember correctly they also fired him over some of his comments.

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I assume this is just temporary. MJH talk almost exclusively about Chicago topics.

That can't play in Pittsburgh and I'm not interested in whether Dale Berra should have the foul line named after him.

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The only thing that makes sense to me about it, is that they may gain a few listeners who might tune in on the internet, after the temporary air time there ( ex-Chicagoan's mostly). That, and giving radio station management in that area some familiarity with them, should they wish to make a move in the future, or use a potential move as leverage when contract time comes along. It is a local show for the most part and would not work long term in another city in my opinion.

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While we're all entitled to our opinion, Mark Madden went well below the belt in his remarks concerning the ailing health of veteran Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy and he deserved to lose his job as a result. When MSNBC & CBS Radio, parent company of New York's WFAN SportsRadio & its syndicator Westwood One, all fired Don Imus over a year ago following the insensitive remarks over the Rutgers women's basketball team, it should have sent a message to broadcasters everywhere that racism, sexism and overall poor taste on the air cannot be tolerated.


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So to say that they're HUGE in Pittsburgh would be valid?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I assume this is just temporary. MJH talk almost exclusively about Chicago topics.

That can't play in Pittsburgh and I'm not interested in whether Dale Berra should have the foul line named after him.


Most Pirates eventually play for the Cubs anyway.


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Mac, Having once lived in the Burgh, I'll chip in with some local color and references for ya. Madden was always overrated anyway. With Myron Cope dead and Stan Savran mostly on TV now, the Burgh is wide open for a new great afternoon talk show talent. Here are ten things you should know about Pittsburgh and its sports:

1. Mario is God.

2. Never, ever call them the "Penguins". The hockey team is simply known as the "Pens". And the term "the igloo" is an ESPN national Bermanism. In Pittsburgh, it's once and always known as "The Civic Arena".

3. Most Pittsburgh fans could care less about the Pirates after 1979. Fahgetabout it.

4. Like Chicago, the citizens of the Burgh live and die with their NFL team. In Pittsburgh, that would be the Stillers.

5. Forget trying to pronounce "Monongahela". Just refer to the river that divides Dahntahn from the Southside by simply calling it "The Mon". The Mon and the Allegheny form the Ohia.

6. Tell the people of Pittsburgh that you look forward to roaming the streets of the Strip District on a Saturday morning and roaming one of the world's best fish markets.

7. When referring to the part of town in which the U. of Pitt, college home of Coach Ditka and Coach Wanny, refer to that part of town as "Oakland".

8. The best radio play by play announcer in town is Mike Lange, longtime voice of the Pens and originator of such now widely-used expressions as "beat him like a rented mule". The guy seemingly invents new expressions every season. An interview with Lange during the Cup playoffs would be appropo for Pens fans in your new audience.

9. The most memorable moment in Pirates history was Mazeroski's home run to win the World Series in 61.

10. Mario is God.


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Isn't Roberto Clemente a God there too.


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He is revered and there is a statue of him and a few other Pirates legends outside the ballpark. People there today who were around in the 60s may remember him and guys like Pops Stargell, Mean Joe Greene, Art Rooney and a few others. Revered? Sure. God? No.


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Is this the same guy that called Hines Ward..Wines Hard on Costas Now look at sports media?

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Can MJH broadcast to Atlanta too? If the 2 Live Stews can go national, ANYONE can!


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They will love Harry's suck up act to everything Cubs and Bears. He'll make the Pitts. audience change stations faster than the Chicago audience does!


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Eaglo Jeff wrote:
Is this the same guy that called Hines Ward..Wines Hard on Costas Now look at sports media?


THAT is funny. It's a bit factual also (as he wasn't happy that Big Ben bitched about having small receivers) - and then BAM! The lanky Longhorn Limas Sweed is in da house.

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They will love Harry's suck up act to everything Cubs and Bears. He'll make the Pitts. audience change stations faster than the Chicago audience does!


Hey Sidney, Harry here....

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What would say adding Pittsburgh to the family like getting Wanny on the air?


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Mark Madden was bad at WCW, I think the reason he was let or as he said was that WCW sucks and they didn't like that, one was out of a job, now both of them are.


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Reading these comments, they will have a tough audience.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08149/885374-139.stm


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I know him from WCW when he was an announcer .He blew chunk there as well.He has been and always will be a no talent hack.Hope the boys can pull it off there


To this day, I claim full responsibility for the firing of Mark Madden by WCW. Just as his run in WCW ended, Madden appeared on J Hood's Wrestlemaniacs on The Score. It was a really great interview, I remember, so I recapped it and sent it to 1Wrestling.com. It was posted on the site, and a few days later, Madden was fired because he did an unauthorized radio interview. :lol:


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"The sad part is he had a following," said one long-time Pittsburgh newspaper reporter. "He's wished death on people before, even said on the air he hoped their planes crashed. He's told listeners he had sex with their wives. There was some talk about him being fired last December, but they put him on a short leash and told him this stuff had to stop. But this one was pretty bad, the worst of anything he's ever said."

"I'm not that surprised he was allowed to stay on," said one long-time Washington radio executive. "The competition for ratings in a lot of markets has driven some people nuts. So many stations are barely making it by the skin of their teeth. To survive, sometimes you do wacko things to attract an audience. It's dead wrong, but it's the reality of what's happening in the business all around the country. When you tell me what he said on the air about Kennedy, I just can't imagine anything that would keep his rear end from being dumped."


sound like anyone we know..."down the dial" as they say?


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We're laughing now, but when tomorrow's topics include the rise and fall of Kordell Stewart and the 1991-1992 Stanley Cup matchup we won't be happy.

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We're laughing now, but when tomorrow's topics include the rise and fall of Kordell Stewart and the 1991-1992 Stanley Cup matchup we won't be happy.


well at least this gives them a pretty decent chance to interview michael keaton...


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Danny Z. Can you book a Spanky LaValliere for us? or maybe Lloyd McClendon? Both have Cubs/Pirates ties. (I can't decide if this was tongue in cheek or not). :lol: :wink:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We're laughing now, but when tomorrow's topics include the rise and fall of Kordell Stewart and the 1991-1992 Stanley Cup matchup we won't be happy.


It's not like both baseball teams are in first place, or the Bulls have the first pick in the NBA draft, or Brian Urlacher is going to miss a mandatory team activity or anything.

I look forward to Sydney Crosby talk, not to mention favorite Pittsburgh Pirate caps of all time.


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