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Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:36 pm ]
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doesn't mean you have no presence."

Right section, wrong section, I really don't give a fuck because its Zeppelin tommorow on the afternoon saloon. James Patrick Page, the second greatest guitarist of all time (2nd to Jimi Hendrix) turns 65 Friday. And while I hope I get to see him play live one more time before he leaves this life, I've been enjoying a lot of the new "bootlegs" that have surfaced on youtube. Most of them are just an MP3 with one picture, so its really not a video, but these shows from 1973 and '75 give you just a little toke of what Led-Zeppelin was like at thier peak, and when Page's playing was at his prime. On the contrary, there is some stuff out there from 1977 when his playing what not so good, and if you want to see how frail and pathetic looking a decade of hard drinking and herion use can make a man appear, search for "1984 Arms Concert" and check the "Stairway to Heaven" performance. I'll share a couple of my favorite Page solos here, and encourage you Zepheads out there to do the same. Happy Birthday, Pagey. Please enjoy this thread with your speakers turned up to 11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_UIPRITfg
Covering John Lee Hooker during "Whole Lotta Love" NY 1973. Excuse the crotch shots at the begining and be prepared to have your face sufficiently melted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV0a1xx1uwQ
Earl's Court 1975. 2:30-5:30 is a great funky jam, nice solo and an impressive bassline as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zISiQ6PqATI
Acoustic Page never fails. Quite the soulful one on the hollowbody, Also Earl's Court 1975

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU1oD3JqfN8
"Achillies Last Stand" Knebworth, 1979. 2 shows to a combined audience of over 200,000. Blistering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pdNHZ2VydM
A slightly re-arranged version of "Babe I"m Gonna Leave You" from 1998, with a killer guitar solo. The rain adds a nice touch.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:44 pm ]
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sweet face melt. 8)

Author:  Eaglo Jeff [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:02 pm ]
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Just as long as we don't get fire crotch. :wink:

Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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my nickname in high school was firecrotch. Couldn't make this stuff up....

Author:  CRITICALMASS [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:44 pm ]
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Sweeeeet!

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:42 am ]
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City of Fools wrote:
my nickname in high school was firecrotch. Couldn't make this stuff up....


Did you have an operation after HS that we didn't realize at H@HI?

Author:  Killer V [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:59 am ]
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
my nickname in high school was firecrotch. Couldn't make this stuff up....


Did you have an operation after HS that we didn't realize at H@HI?


Well, he DID kind of play like that... :P

Author:  T-Bone [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:17 am ]
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So you are saying he had a little Nancy Lieberman in him then Killer V?

Author:  Mac [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:16 am ]
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So the world is spinnin' faster,
Are you dizzy when you're stoned?
Let the music be your master,
Will you heed the master's call?

Cheers to all Page/Zepheads. Happy birthday Pagey, most versatile, most soulful, rockin'est guitarist ever to pick up an axe.

Author:  City of Fools [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:24 am ]
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
my nickname in high school was firecrotch. Couldn't make this stuff up....


Did you have an operation after HS that we didn't realize at H@HI?

I got the nickname because the carpet matched...nevermind how I got the name. At least a girl gave it to me...

Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:28 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
...James Patrick Page, the second greatest guitarist of all time (2nd to Jimi Hendrix)


Wow....not even close.

Great songwriter, great producer, but as a lead guitarist?

Try again. Great but not even in the team photo.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:30 pm ]
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wdelaney72 wrote:
Try again. Great but not even in the team photo.

This could be the first opinion I've ever read that is 100% wrong.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:32 pm ]
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Made up my mind to break you this time,
Won't be so fine, it's my turn to cry.
Do want you want, I won't take the brunt.
It's fadin' away, can't feel you anymore.
Don't care what you say 'cause I'm goin' away to stay,
Gonna make you pay for that great big hole in my heart.
People talkin' all around,
Watch out woman, no longer
Is the joke gonna be on my heart.
You been bad to me woman,
But it's coming back home to you.



Next time you have a bad relationship situation...read this and move on

Author:  Makalu G [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:33 pm ]
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wdelaney72 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
...James Patrick Page, the second greatest guitarist of all time (2nd to Jimi Hendrix)



Great songwriter, great producer, but as a lead guitarist?

Try again. Great but not even in the team photo.


I'd agree with this. Awesome arranger too. A legend, no doubt, though...

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:38 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Try again. Great but not even in the team photo.

This could be the first opinion I've ever read that is 100% wrong.


I missed this the first time I read it. I have to agree with wdelaney. There a few guys I would put above him from strictly a guitar standpoint.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:39 pm ]
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Ok lets start listing all the guitarists that are better than jimmy page

ill start
Doug-evergreen park...

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:40 pm ]
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I'm glad to see all of those YouTube links I posted are getting viewed.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:45 pm ]
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http://www.iguitarworld.com/2008/04/24/worlds-fastest-guitarist-videos/

interesting site..

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:50 pm ]
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I can't view vids at work, but I'll assume by that link its solos played at blinding speeds. Fast does not necessarily equal good. Devin Hester is fast as wind, but is he one of the best WRs ever? Hardly.

He's my favorite and I'm totally biased. But I think there's a lot to be said about how many styles you can play and play well, and the emotion and feeling that is put into what you play. Page is second to none in both categories.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:58 pm ]
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i just posted an interesting link with vids and a brief bio about guys who play really fast.
that was it, Frank.
don't read too much into it.

Now, Joe Satriani...

Author:  Beebo [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:59 pm ]
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How do people like Clampton and Knopfler rank in your world?

Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:00 pm ]
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Knopfler is a fine example of the list of many guitarists better than page...

Big difference between "your favorite" and "2nd greatest all time"

You opened this can of worms... I take nothing away from the greatness of Led Zeppelin - the band or Jimmy Page's songwriting and production abilities. As far as what you mentioned, guitar greats, there are PLENTY in front of him... too many to mention.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:05 pm ]
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http://www.hotguitarist.com/guitar_artists/guitar_players.htm
a bit of an old list from 2003.

Petrucci, Vai, and Satch are not even on it....

Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:14 pm ]
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And for the record, I do agree that Hendrix tops that list.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:16 pm ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
http://www.hotguitarist.com/guitar_artists/guitar_players.htm
a bit of an old list from 2003.

Petrucci, Vai, and Satch are not even on it....

But Cobain is :?

Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:27 pm ]
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Cobain?

Well, so much for that list having any credibility... they probably have a "bassist" list with Sid Vicious at #1 and D'arcy at #2.

Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:22 pm ]
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BB King

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:30 pm ]
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Hey all you guitar lovers

Is John Mayer really good and he just wastes it on wuss rock?

Ive heard that quite a bit

Author:  WestmontMike [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:39 pm ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
http://www.hotguitarist.com/guitar_artists/guitar_players.htm
a bit of an old list from 2003.

Petrucci, Vai, and Satch are not even on it....


can someone copy/paste the list on here, this site is block at work.... that's right Steve, I'm at work and I'm on the internet. I'm a drain on American society. Deal with it!

Author:  Spaulding [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:40 pm ]
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. Jimi Hendrix
2. Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3. B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan Who is the better concert band - The Stones or U2 ?
8 Ry Cooder Click to answer
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11 Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townsend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

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