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Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:48 am ]
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I started listening to the Saloon again, when Norm van Lier died. B&B were not talking about it and when I went over to the Afternoon Saloon, they did a great job covering it, with very good guests. Since then, I have flipped back and forth. One thing I have noticed though, is that the show is taking far fewer calls from listeners these days. I have called just a couple times myself-less frequently than in the past, when danny Mac was on the show (was the show). But I wonder if there are far fewer people calling, or if Carmen just chooses not to put as many callers on the air? Anyone else notice the change?
Author:  W_Z [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:17 am ]
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i've noticed the same thing with sil-wad the last couple of days...
Author:  RFDC [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:06 pm ]
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less listeners=less callers
Author:  Mac [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:19 pm ]
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I played Little League baseball in '73 and '74 with a guy named Les Callers. Dandy little glove man at second base. :-)
Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:42 pm ]
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Maybe Carm wants to take less callers so he has more of a chance to let everyone listening know how great he is. Im sorry but I dont really listen to this show that much anymore. Harry fucking kills me with his stupid jokes and Carmen just seems like he is a sports know it all. Yeah he knows it all but he doesnt understand that stuff doesnt fly in Chicago.
Author:  Eaglo Jeff [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:48 pm ]
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Mac- Get back to editing your book. :P

I listen less mostly because I've been a little more busy and away from computer at work. They've also been more strict about listening in the office, but I do catch it when I can. I think Carm does a fine job and I still enjoy The Afternoon Salon (misspell intended). :wink:
Author:  W_Z [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:52 pm ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
Yeah he knows it all but he doesnt understand that stuff doesnt fly in Chicago.


Chris. What. In the fuck. Are you talking about? Ever heard of Dan Bernstein? How's his show doing in the ratings?
Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:55 pm ]
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W_Z wrote:
Chris_in_joliet wrote:
Yeah he knows it all but he doesnt understand that stuff doesnt fly in Chicago.


Chris. What. In the fuck. Are you talking about? Ever heard of Dan Bernstein? How's his show doing in the ratings?



Yeah, I was thinking that also, but I think for some reason he almost has that Howard Stern following. I know people that cant stand him, but they know all about his show. And the guy has been on the air and been successful at it for awhile. I just think he and Carmen are very different. Maybe Carm has to direct his attitude to the callers and leave Jurko and Harry alone.
Author:  W_Z [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:00 pm ]
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i don't think Carm's as pretentious as you think though. I definitely think he is better as a second banana than a driver because he's actually too nice for the most part. He's a complimentary type of personality. I don't see him as much of a ranter. Unfortunately between Carmen, Jurko and Harry he is the best choice for driving the show.
Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:03 pm ]
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I think he does pretty well as a driver but I think you're right in that he is better paired with a strong personality opposite him. I don't find him know it all-y or pretentious.
Author:  Harry Timbercrank [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:56 pm ]
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Mac wrote:
I played Little League baseball in '73 and '74 with a guy named Les Callers. Dandy little glove man at second base. :-)



Funny you should mention Les - as I think my wife was a guy in a previous life, actually three men: Les Sex, Les Gratification and Les Happiness.
Author:  Big D-voice of WAR [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:57 pm ]
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Boers/Bernstein is a show I haven't been able to ever get on board with. Every once in a while, I check them out and they have their moments. However, there have been times whether its them or some of their callers that make it a damn tough listen as it can be painful at times.

If ESPN let Mac go because of his on-air work and not so much of that fifth-year option, I can understand it because he constantly dated himself and all but ignored basketball although I personally miss him myself. It looked to me that with MJH that you had radio soul mates. Defalco guest hosted the saloon (for Mac) before his promotion and I liked his rapport with Jurko & Harry but it just isn't the same whether if there is less calls taken or not as I am just not feeling it now with those three. It surely is a show that is still in transition (I believe) and if CJH last past mid 2010, I'll be surprised.
Author:  Killer V [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
I think he does pretty well as a driver but I think you're right in that he is better paired with a strong personality opposite him. I don't find him know it all-y or pretentious.


I don't find him pretentious, I find him extremely defensive. The few times I've been able to listen, when someone challenges a Carm statement or opinion, he seems to fly off the handle, enough to make it must-miss radio for me.
Author:  SHARK [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:32 pm ]
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As a big consumer of sports talk radio myself, I've noticed that ESPN Radio hosts RARELY take calls from Joe Fan on the national level. If you listen to "Mike & Mike" or "Tirico & Van Pelt", I think you'll know what I mean. There are also times on "The SCORE" where the hosts don't take calls in a specific segment. For instance, "Boers & Bernstein" don't take any calls at all when they do "The Second Half" at 4p Monday-Thursday...Something else to consider. Whenever there's a guest, regardless if it's ESPN Radio, WSCR 670, Sporting News Radio, or even FOX Sports Radio, they rarely take calls from fans like you & me as well, likely the result of time constraints with the guest on the phone.
Author:  Puckhead [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:55 pm ]
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SHARK wrote:
they rarely take calls from fans like you & me as well, likely the result of time constraints with the guest on the phone.


Well, im sure there are time constraints. Im also sure the first time they take a caller for some hot college basketball chick, Grid will be calling with his best "Julie Sweicka Mouthbreathing" call.
Author:  Spaulding [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:53 pm ]
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Funny you should mention Les - as I think my wife was a guy in a previous life, actually three men: Les Sex, Les Gratification and Les Happiness.


I've met them. Moore Responsibility, Moore Offspring, and Les Time introduced us.

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I don't find him pretentious, I find him extremely defensive. The few times I've been able to listen, when someone challenges a Carm statement or opinion, he seems to fly off the handle, enough to make it must-miss radio for me.


I can see that with Jurko and Harry. I didn't think he was like that with Silvy or Hood. I like him though.
Author:  Beef Rockmore [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:28 pm ]
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You'll get more callers when NFL and MLB games matter again.
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