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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:16 pm 
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Fukudome owed $4.2 M for the rest of the year and they paid $2.5 M of it, Saved $1.7 M. congrats!

Got Carlton smith AAA lifer pitcher, nothing there, nothing special. 24 year old future college ast coach.

Abner Abreu, 21, single A, been in Indians system since he was 17. Would think a little more progress would be done than A+?

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Fukudome owed $4.2 M for the rest of the year and they paid $2.5 M of it, Saved $1.7 M. congrats!

Got Carlton smith AAA lifer pitcher, nothing there, nothing special. 24 year old future college ast coach.

Abner Abreu, 21, single A, been in Indians system since he was 17. Would think a little more progress would be done than A+?

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I read the Cubs picked up all but $775K.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:40 pm 
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yeah. I heard cubs "saved" $775K and are EATING the rest.

Also...Wscr had feedback from someone in the business of rating prospects and neither one of these guys were listed in the top 30 for the Indians. He labeled it a "salary dump".

I don't really much care...didn't expect much for Fuko anyway....and certainly didn't expect Hendry to bring back anything with any promise either.

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yeah. I heard cubs "saved" $775K and are EATING the rest.

You know what? Who gives a shit? At this juncture in time and space Fukudome was only standing in the way of people who might potentially be part of the short-to-mid-term future from having a crack at playing RF, and since the Cubs were going to have to pay the full salary anyways, shit, now the Ricketts family can afford to hang out at the ballpark on national television and buy some beers and bisonburgers in their quixotic quest to convince us that those creepy ass people are just like all of us who go to the games.

Perhaps my most enduring image of the season was that one Saturday afternoon game in April/May where it was like 45-50, cold, rainy, and utterly miserable and there was captain creepjob Tom Ricketts there in some plastic-bag-looking-poncho mugging for the national TV cameras right behind homeplate with his beer in hand. Alls he needed was his stupidass oversized harry caray glasses and and he would have been a perfect symbol of all things Cub.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:17 am 
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walkrman5 wrote:
yeah. I heard cubs "saved" $775K and are EATING the rest.

Also...Wscr had feedback from someone in the business of rating prospects and neither one of these guys were listed in the top 30 for the Indians. He labeled it a "salary dump".

I don't really much care...didn't expect much for Fuko anyway....and certainly didn't expect Hendry to bring back anything with any promise either.


Correct. They didn't receive anything of value back, but did save a little bit of money.


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So did they do this to give Colvin more time?
Regular time?
1 for 7 and hasn't played since Saturday.
Are they fucking with him, is he really that bad or what's the deal?

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So did they do this to give Colvin more time?
Regular time?
1 for 7 and hasn't played since Saturday.
Are they fucking with him, is he really that bad or what's the deal?

Don't try to understand Quade.

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So did they do this to give Colvin more time?
Regular time?
1 for 7 and hasn't played since Saturday.
Are they fucking with him, is he really that bad or what's the deal?


"Colvy" was batting .256 at AAA. This guy has fallen off the deep end since getting hurt. Another huge disappointment,Cubs style.

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You saved three quarters of a million dollars. That is a positive. Did you really think you were going to get this great prospect for this guy? It is a salary dump, and a good one. Yes, perhaps a deal would have been brokered to save one million dollars, but you have to be happy that you don't have to deal with this guy anymore.

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You saved three quarters of a million dollars. That is a positive. Did you really think you were going to get this great prospect for this guy? It is a salary dump, and a good one. Yes, perhaps a deal would have been brokered to save one million dollars, but you have to be happy that you don't have to deal with this guy anymore.


you just negotiated with a team that was in first place, that was going for it, as they demonstrated by trading their top 3 prospects. Get me a failed top prospect, hold out for all the money, etc, but this move cost Cleveland less than $ 1m???

Sorry, but I can't believe a team going for it, was not willing to spend more than $1 Mill for a player they have starting for them!

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What universe of baseball are you watching? You have a mediocre guy, vastly overpaid and in the last year of his contract. You have absolutely zero leverage here. Fuku is just supposed to keep a spot warm until Choo or Sizemore return. Cub should take what they can for him and move on, hell they are lucky to even dump the 750k :lol:

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What universe of baseball are you watching? You have a mediocre guy, vastly overpaid and in the last year of his contract. You have absolutely zero leverage here. Fuku is just supposed to keep a spot warm until Choo or Sizemore return. Cub should take what they can for him and move on, hell they are lucky to even dump the 750k :lol:


exactly

and Cleveland is not "going for it"...they acquired Kosuke Fukudome...it's more like they took a stab at him, but believe me, they could have done without him, and weren't going for it...they only would take him if the Cubs handed him to them, and thats what ended up happening

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and Cleveland is not "going for it"...they acquired Kosuke Fukudome..

The fuck? They also acquired Ubaldo Jimenez. That to me screams "going for it"

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and Cleveland is not "going for it"...they acquired Kosuke Fukudome..

The fuck? They also acquired Ubaldo Jimenez. That to me screams "going for it"




is the tribe "all in" as well?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
whistler wrote:
and Cleveland is not "going for it"...they acquired Kosuke Fukudome..

The fuck? They also acquired Ubaldo Jimenez. That to me screams "going for it"



i meant as far as Fukudome goes...Fukudome is Fukudome (i.e., he sucks and everyone knows it), not Beltran, Jimenez, or Pence...

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wtf is a sawbuck?

stop inventing words to sound smart or some shit...u dont...u sound dumb...like u cant articulate yourself

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whistler wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
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wtf is a sawbuck?

stop inventing words to sound smart or some shit...u dont...u sound dumb...like u cant articulate yourself

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
whistler wrote:
and Cleveland is not "going for it"...they acquired Kosuke Fukudome..

The fuck? They also acquired Ubaldo Jimenez. That to me screams "going for it"


Acquiring Fukudome does not mean going all in, but as Frank pointed out trading your top 3 Farm system guys is going all in and the point is, they had the same mindset when Hendry was dealing with them. He just got screwed

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