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 Post subject: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:42 am 
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Should come as no surprise, but Rich Harden is headed out of town - to the Rangers. 1 year deal in the 7-8M range.


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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:16 am 
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This should put him near the top of the preseason Cy Young hopefuls
now that he has left the Cubs. He probably won't even get injured
or skip starts this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
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This will turn out to be a huge mistake. Harden was moving past his injury plagued time and was relatively solid with the Cubs. Now they're short another starter.


Just a question but when was the last time that you were even mildly ok with a Cubs move?

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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:07 am 
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OH NO! Rich Harden is leaving! How could the Cubs let this perennial 9-10 win pitcher just walk away! He is a dominant pitcher who is just waiting to blossom into greatness! He has been everything the Cubs dreamed he would be when they stole him from the A's! This team can't survive without his 140 IP each year! This is a bad move! VERY bad! He has a huge upside! How will the rotation account for his 1 start every 10 days?

OHHHHH NOOOOO!

PANIC! PANIC!! PANIC!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:13 am 
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PANIC! wrote:
OH NO! Rich Harden is leaving! How could the Cubs let this perennial 9-10 win pitcher just walk away! He is a dominant pitcher who is just waiting to blossom into greatness! He has been everything the Cubs dreamed he would be when they stole him from the A's! This team can't survive without his 140 IP each year! This is a bad move! VERY bad! He has a huge upside! How will the rotation account for his 1 start every 10 days?

OHHHHH NOOOOO!

PANIC! PANIC!! PANIC!!!



Now this is a mult I can get behind. Maybe he'll be healthy this year, maybe the ligaments in his elbow and shoulder will fall clean off. With how strapped with cash the team is, I completely understand why they did not offer him arb. Wish Rich nothing but the best

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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
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Northside_Dan wrote:
PANIC! wrote:
OH NO! Rich Harden is leaving! How could the Cubs let this perennial 9-10 win pitcher just walk away! He is a dominant pitcher who is just waiting to blossom into greatness! He has been everything the Cubs dreamed he would be when they stole him from the A's! This team can't survive without his 140 IP each year! This is a bad move! VERY bad! He has a huge upside! How will the rotation account for his 1 start every 10 days?

OHHHHH NOOOOO!

PANIC! PANIC!! PANIC!!!



Now this is a mult I can get behind. Maybe he'll be healthy this year, maybe the ligaments in his elbow and shoulder will fall clean off. With how strapped with cash the team is, I completely understand why they did not offer him arb. Wish Rich nothing but the best


Agreed. I have my fingers crossed that we don't boo him if we ever see him in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:22 am 
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I can do without a guy throwing 5 innings and 100 pitches a start, when 70 of them come in the first three innings.

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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
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Rich Harden will receive $6.5 million in 2010 with an $11 million mutual option for 2011 with a $1M buyout.

Harden is actually making $500,000 LESS than he made last year.


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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:40 am 
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i had high hopes for harden when he was acquired, and again last year. his inability to get through 5-6 innings each start was frustrating. particularly the season he was acquired. he would pitch 1-hit shutout ball with 10 K's through 5, and have to be pulled. the guy only averaged less than 6 innings a start last year. enjoy your stay in texas.


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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:52 pm 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Rich Harden will receive $6.5 million in 2010 with an $11 million mutual option for 2011 with a $1M buyout.

Harden is actually making $500,000 LESS than he made last year.


Yeah but he either gets bought out, which makes it a 7.5 one year deal or picked up which averages out to 8.75 per year

I think Harden will always be looking to be on a multi year deal so that he can continue to coast.

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Rudy Jaramillo. They signed him in case they can't get rid of your BFF Milton Bradley.

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 Post subject: Re: Harden leaving town
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Troowiddit wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
Troowiddit wrote:
This will turn out to be a huge mistake. Harden was moving past his injury plagued time and was relatively solid with the Cubs. Now they're short another starter.


Just a question but when was the last time that you were even mildly ok with a Cubs move?

Well, damn, I just got on board here a month ago.
Well, obviously I liked the Harden pickup in the first place. I liked the Bradley signing, although I thought he was overpaid. Dempster was a good signing, as was Lilly. Hendry also got Lee and Ramirez. I'm not sure if Hendry was involved with Soto but I guess he probably was right? But there haven't been too many good moves over the last couple years, along with some extremely questionable signings.
Let me ask you the same question, what was Hendry's last good signing?


Yeah I thought the Grabow move was a decent one and I have to be honest but I am perfectly fine with them letting Harden walk because of what has already been discussed in this thread with his penchant for nibbling around the strike zone and throwing 90 pitches through 5 innings. Do I think Hendry is doing a good job....No I do not. But it just seemed to me that your reactions so far on this board have been overwhelmingly negative to anything the Cubs attempt. Maybe its a coincidence that you just happened to disagree with everything that has come up since you have been here but instead you are just coming across as a red ass.

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