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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:05 pm 
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It's official.

Thanks for 2016 but learn how to manage a bullpen Joe.

So who's next??


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Let us now celebrate activity being conflated with an actual accomplishment.

Anyone with any sense whatsoever will wait until it is seen what the next manager does before saying this is clearly a good/bad move.

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Real mixed feelings on this one. I understand it with how the last 2 seasons have ended. But also seems a lot like be careful what you wish for you just may get it.

Will forever be grateful for his time as manger. A great time to be a fan.

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yea no blame to theo for every single bad move after 2016


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yea no blame to theo for every single bad move after 2016


Theo deserves a shitload of blame. The fact that the farm system is not producing even decent results is the most glaring, but his free agent signings have been terrible overall, even going back to his days in Boston.

It's put up or shut up time for Theo. And the great Jason McLeod should have been canned too. Who will be the next hire to oversee the farm system? That is crucial.

The Astros/Dodgers farm systems have to be studied and replicated.

As for manager, I'd like to see Girardi hired. He's tested, has produced results, is good with young talent, and his style is intense. Joe got us the WS ring, but to much "it's all good all the time" BS. Girardi will call guys out. Ross and Loretta deserve an interview too, but I like Girardi.


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Girardi is too old. They will go with a younger coach.


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timmyholton wrote:
yea no blame to theo for every single bad move after 2016


Theo has said the allocation of resources and over valuing of certain players is on him. He’s said that multiple times.

What more do you want?


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'77Cubs wrote:
timmyholton wrote:
yea no blame to theo for every single bad move after 2016


Theo deserves a shitload of blame. The fact that the farm system is not producing even decent results is the most glaring, but his free agent signings have been terrible overall, even going back to his days in Boston.

It's put up or shut up time for Theo. And the great Jason McLeod should have been canned too. Who will be the next hire to oversee the farm system? That is crucial.

The Astros/Dodgers farm systems have to be studied and replicated.

As for manager, I'd like to see Girardi hired. He's tested, has produced results, is good with young talent, and his style is intense. Joe got us the WS ring, but to much "it's all good all the time" BS. Girardi will call guys out. Ross and Loretta deserve an interview too, but I like Girardi.


They want the manager to be an extension of the front office. Not a true separate entity.

The new Cubs Manager will make less than a million per year


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'77Cubs wrote:
It's official.




just because u say so?

where's the link?

another terrible poster.

A terrible Peoria Matt-like post.

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Wasn't fired.

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Wasn't fired.



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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/277 ... ig-seasons

The Chicago Cubs are moving on from Joe Maddon, the manager who led them to their first World Series title in 108 years, team president Theo Epstein and Maddon announced Sunday.

Maddon, 65, is officially a free agent after the Cubs missed the postseason for the first time in five years. A nine-game losing streak in late September sealed the fate of the Cubs, and possibly Maddon, as well.

Maddon and Epstein made the announcement in St. Louis, where the Cubs are trying to play the rare recent role of spoiler in keeping the Cardinals from clinching the NL Central.

"We're both going to move on," Maddon said. "Hopefully, the Cubs are going to flourish. Hopefully, I get a chance to do this someplace else. But there's no tears shed. It's a good moment for everybody. And we're both excited about our futures."

"We both agreed that, this type of change, that it's time and that this type of change is a win-win." Epstein said, adding that the Cubs were at a point where they needed a change.

"We never could have imagined this working out as well as it did," he added. "I personally never could have imagined having such a wonderful partner, someone so loyal and supportive and someone from whom I learned so much about baseball and life."

Maddon came to Chicago after nearly a decade with the Tampa Bay Rays, whom he took to the 2008 World Series.

He did one better with the Cubs, guiding them to 103 regular-season wins in 2016 and then a long-awaited World Series title that postseason. He was credited with changing the culture and creating a loose atmosphere for his players during a pressure-filled time. His "Embrace the Target" slogan was the right touch in a year when many picked the Cubs to win it all, even before spring training began.

The World Series win was not without controversy, as Maddon's pitching maneuvers were scrutinized during and after the victory. Still, he'll go down as the manager who broke the longest championship drought in professional sports history.

Maddon's last two years in Chicago, however, were plagued by underachievement on several levels. Although the Cubs won 95 games in 2018, they lost in the NL wild-card game to the Colorado Rockies, and upper management decided to hold off talks of a contract extension, challenging Maddon to be the "best version" of himself heading into 2019. After a 2-7 start to the season, the team went 23-7 over the next month, vaulting into the NL Central lead.


But the Cubs played .500 baseball over the next four months, treading water but hanging around in the playoff race. The wheels came off on their final homestand in September as the Cubs lost two of three to the under-.500 Cincinnati Reds before being swept by the first-place Cardinals, losing each of the four games by one run.

Maddon signed a five-year, $25 million deal with the Cubs before the 2015 season and received a $1 million annual salary bump after winning the World Series. He ranks fifth in franchise history in wins and managed the team to four straight playoff appearances, a franchise record.

"I can't say enough positives about what Joe has done, flat-out, for this organization," Cubs pitcher Jon Lester said last week. "Up until this year we led MLB in wins [over the past four years]. That's a testament to him. We broke a 108-year curse. ... He should be revered as a legend in this town for a long, long time."

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Girardi is too old. They will go with a younger coach.


Also a much cheaper coach.

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Probably already calling the White Sox to steal Rentarias job again.

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"From Savior to Scapegoat"?! Fuck that clickbait. Theo accepts blame, deservedly, Maddon gets to take some too, deservedly.

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And last night Maddon just had to bring in Strop to pitch the 8th. And he almost blew the lead.

Thanks for 2016 Joe but his bullpen management was and is terrible.


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Score already running the "Thank you, Joe Maddon" spots.


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timmyholton wrote:
yea no blame to theo for every single bad move after 2016


Theo deserves a shitload of blame. The fact that the farm system is not producing even decent results is the most glaring, but his free agent signings have been terrible overall, even going back to his days in Boston.

It's put up or shut up time for Theo. And the great Jason McLeod should have been canned too. Who will be the next hire to oversee the farm system? That is crucial.

The Astros/Dodgers farm systems have to be studied and replicated.

As for manager, I'd like to see Girardi hired. He's tested, has produced results, is good with young talent, and his style is intense. Joe got us the WS ring, but to much "it's all good all the time" BS. Girardi will call guys out. Ross and Loretta deserve an interview too, but I like Girardi.


They want the manager to be an extension of the front office. Not a true separate entity.

The new Cubs Manager will make less than a million per year


Correct. TheoandJed will be making the lineups.

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Cost the Cubs five wins a year. Thought he invented baseball. Master bullshitter. Sidestepped all issues with nonsense. Hot streak killer. Constantly in-game out managed. Will miss his outrageous qoutes praising Jason Heyward, and pitchers who just got bombed. Took credit for a player who shined because of his brilliant maneuvering. Constantly insulted fans who questioned his bad moves. Almost blew the final game of the world series. Better not end up on the south side.


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"From Savior to Scapegoat"?! Fuck that clickbait. Theo accepts blame, deservedly, Maddon gets to take some too, deservedly.



it's not clickbait.

It's good analysis, something youre not capable of. READ and LEARN. ANALYZE.

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He’s running today’s game or no?



yes. He wasnt fired. It's just that he wont get another contract.

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GoldenJet wrote:
"From Savior to Scapegoat"?! Fuck that clickbait. Theo accepts blame, deservedly, Maddon gets to take some too, deservedly.



it's not clickbait.

It's good analysis, something youre not capable of. READ and LEARN. ANALYZE.


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Cost the Cubs five wins a year. Thought he invented baseball. Master bullshitter. Sidestepped all issues with nonsense. Hot streak killer. Constantly in-game out managed. Will miss his outrageous qoutes praising Jason Heyward, and pitchers who just got bombed. Took credit for a player who shined because of his brilliant maneuvering. Constantly insulted fans who questioned his bad moves. Almost blew the final game of the world series. Better not end up on the south side.

That’s fine . The fucking players who can’t hit, run the bases or catch the fucking ball and the pitchers who can’t pitch caused the other 75 losses .

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Ricketts needs to tell Theo and Jed it's playoffs next season, or you 2 are gone as well. You essentially missed the playoffs the last 2 years, and you will be on your 3 or 4th manager. Not a great track record.

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I wonder if the Cardinals paid him off to pitch Holland today. Maddon seems to hate the Brewers. He said he grew up a Cardinals fan.

Thanks Joe!


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