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Silva actually got out of the 1st inning with only one run. Of couse, Carlos Lee hit a tape measure foul ball and a rocket to right that Colvin snagged. Cy Young, here we come.

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Silva actually got out of the 1st inning with only one run. Of couse, Carlos Lee hit a tape measure foul ball and a rocket to right that Colvin snagged. Cy Young, here we come.

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5 innings, 1 run. Not bad.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


I just wonder what makes a Sox fan click on a Cubs vs. Astros thread at the end of July when your team is in 1st

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


Remove one year and could not the same exact thing be said about the White Sox?

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My guy Berkman is starting to swing the bat again. It looks like he could be a REALLY good addition to a contending team for the stretch run.


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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


Remove one year and could not the same exact thing be said about the White Sox?


I'm not talking about this year. This same shit is year in and out save for a few exceptions.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


Remove one year and could not the same exact thing be said about the White Sox?


I'm not talking about this year. This same shit is year in and out save for a few exceptions.


I am not talking about this year either. The same shit year in and year out save for a few exceptions is the story of Chicago baseball all together, not just the Cubs.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


I just wonder what makes a Sox fan click on a Cubs vs. Astros thread at the end of July when your team is in 1st


Today, I'm not saying, I'm just sayin'.

Generally, I am a baseball fan. I consume a sufficient amount of Cubs games a year to put my knowledge of them at a level at least equal to Stoney. It just gets to this time of year and, while better in record, they are really in no real better position than the Pirates. Sure you had 07 and 08 to warm you up. But generally, this was a good decade and it wasn't even that good of a decade.

As a Sox fan, I can say almost every year that they will be .500 or better, compete for the division and keep the assholery down to a minimum. It's not championship baseball, but it is competitive since about 1990.

What do you get for your love as a Cubs fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Astros
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I am not talking about this year either. The same shit year in and year out save for a few exceptions is the story of Chicago baseball all together, not just the Cubs.


The Sox had arguably the best team in baseball for one year in each of the last two decades. They were one of the winningest teams of the 90s. Even the bad blip in the late 90s featured the first years of true stars like Ordonez, Lee, Konerko and Buehrle.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


Remove one year and could not the same exact thing be said about the White Sox?


I'm not talking about this year. This same shit is year in and out save for a few exceptions.



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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


I just wonder what makes a Sox fan click on a Cubs vs. Astros thread at the end of July when your team is in 1st


Today, I'm not saying, I'm just sayin'.

Generally, I am a baseball fan. I consume a sufficient amount of Cubs games a year to put my knowledge of them at a level at least equal to Stoney. It just gets to this time of year and, while better in record, they are really in no real better position than the Pirates. Sure you had 07 and 08 to warm you up. But generally, this was a good decade and it wasn't even that good of a decade.

As a Sox fan, I can say almost every year that they will be .500 or better, compete for the division and keep the assholery down to a minimum. It's not championship baseball, but it is competitive since about 1990.

What do you get for your love as a Cubs fan.


A kick in the balls every single year. Why do you concern yourself so much about what Cubs fans get from their team. Yes the Cubs are bad. Yes most years they are bad. So me personally as a Cubs fan I tend to not focus my attention on every single game while they are sucking this hard and I instead turn my attention to other interests like killing time on the internet here and doing things outside in the nice weather. You seem like you are asking people to simply justify their fandom based on Wiins and Loses when it is not nearly as subjective as that. This is kind of Bernsteinesque as you seem to be having difficulty understanding alot of the intangible things that going into being a fan of a team. Guess what the Cubs will continue to suck. And I will continue to watch the Cubs.

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The Sox had arguably the best team in baseball for one year in each of the last two decades. They were one of the winningest teams of the 90s. Even the bad blip in the late 90s featured the first years of true stars like Ordonez, Lee, Konerko and Buehrle.


Wow, 2 exceptions in 20 years? I am sorry I did not realize you were going to use that type of logic in this discussion. You win.

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Cub fandom is very much a sunk cost issue. People, in general, are irrational when it comes to time or resources invested in a losing project. They tend to want to stay with something longer than they should because they feel responsible for their lost time or money invested and think that by staying with it, that time, money, or energy is validated or "not lost". But that's what a fan is - an irrational advocate.

Rationally, you'd say any fan should reevaluate at the beginning of each season which team has the best opportunity for success and be a fan of them. But, doing so would go against the ideas of loyalty involved with being a fan.

Cub fans just take the idea of fan loyalty to the n-th degree. I will be there when they win a World Series and everything I've suffered through will make it that much sweeter.....or I will kill myself with anticlimax.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.


I just wonder what makes a Sox fan click on a Cubs vs. Astros thread at the end of July when your team is in 1st



I think I know the answer. I've had several women tell me that they would rather be hated and treated horribly than ignored, I see the same thought pattern in White Sox fans with respect to their relationship with Cub fans. As far as the Average Cub fan is concerned the White Sox don't exist and that's the part that angers Sox fans the most. It's almost as if there is a sort of inferiority complex expressed in the feeling that they're not even worth enough to be hated by Cub fans. Dunno, If the Cubs were in 1st the last place I would be is in a Sox thread, just sayin'.

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How do you stick with this team, Cubs fans? Honestly, what is the draw to these guys? They are not even entertaining more than 50% of my lifetime. It seems they constantly choke in pressure situations and every little glimpse of light is just a train in the distance.

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What do you get for your love as a Cubs fan.


what did i get for my love as a saints fan until early this year? do you truly not understand what fandom is?


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What do you get for your love as a Cubs fan.


what did i get for my love as a saints fan until early this year? do you truly not understand what fandom is?


This has been a good year for suffering fandoms. Look at what the Hawks did to a few of us on the board in the last couple of months alone.

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This has been a good year for suffering fandoms. Look at what the Hawks did to a few of us on the board in the last couple of months alone.


we can all say...with respect to their fanbase, at least we're not in cleveland.

btw, can they stop throwing fuckin howry out there in games for god's sake? jesus.


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we can all say...with respect to their fanbase, at least we're not in cleveland.



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Its not the fandom that gets me, its the sense of perpetual hope and "this is the year" each and every Spring Training.

If it didn't happen in 2003 or 2008, its not gonna.

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Its not the fandom that gets me, its the sense of perpetual hope and "this is the year" each and every Spring Training.

If it didn't happen in 2003 or 2008, its not gonna.

That perpetual hope thing is a fucking myth reserved for nuns, grandmothers, kibitzing Sock fans and Elmhurst Steve.

We elected Hope POTUS in 2008, how has that worked out so far? Give it a rest.

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Its not the fandom that gets me, its the sense of perpetual hope and "this is the year" each and every Spring Training.


Can you tell me one Cub fan around here who has stated that this is the year? Not even superfan ES thought that.

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A lot of it is meatballs and media hype, and most of you guys here (because you are smart fans) weren't like that. But in 2009 most of you were.

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A lot of it is meatballs and media hype, and most of you guys here (because you are smart fans) weren't like that. But in 2009 most of you were.

I certainly did not fall into that category. I said in spring training 2009 Hendry put together a lousy roster. May I also point out, I was also one of the few who said they would have trouble with the Dodgers in 2008.
I have been wanting Hendry fired since 2006.

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