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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:57 am 
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Season is over so onto one of our "championships" (other being draft).

Jeff Samardzija
Jason Hammel
Luis Valbuena
Emilio Bonifacio
James Russell
Darwin Barney
Nasty Nate
Edwin Jackson (a man can dream)

Everything under Hammel is just flotsam but maybe you can build a bullpen outta the developmental/reclaimation arms you'll get.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:02 am 
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Samarzija, Hammel and Bonaficio should get interest. Maybe Valbuena.


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Travis Wood should garner interest too.

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What a joke. keep building towards the end of the rainbow that no one will ever see.


Only someone as arrogant as Theo thinks it's ok to flush 3 seasons down the shitter.

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Do NOT speak of Travis Wood leaving.

No one is trading for Barney.....at least not until right before rosters expand. You can't keep a guy hitting .104 on your roster regardless of his defense. .104 blows even for a pitcher.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Do NOT speak of Travis Wood leaving.

No one is trading for Barney.....at least not until right before rosters expand. You can't keep a guy hitting .104 on your roster regardless of his defense. .104 blows even for a pitcher.



BUT HE HIT A HOMER!

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Do NOT speak of Travis Wood leaving.

No one is trading for Barney.....at least not until right before rosters expand. You can't keep a guy hitting .104 on your roster regardless of his defense. .104 blows even for a pitcher.



BUT HE HIT A HOMER!

That was probably his only hit. I think Boni has more hits from opening day than Barney has all season.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:02 am 
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how good would hammels look in the Sox rotation now? Jedtheo is great at scrounging the $2 bins.

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Baseball fans are terrible at spelling surnames correctly.

Samardzija, Hammel, and Bonifacio.

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I don't even try smajarda

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i don't think id deal samardzija or bonafacio if i could help it. both of these guys are good enough and young enough to contribute to a winning team. guys like hammel, schierholz, valbuena, those are the guys i would try to deal. if there is a plan in place for this team to win in the next couple years (for the sake of argument) , why would the cubs trade the potentially long-term assets now just so you have to re-acquire replacements for them next year?

for the record i have not been a big believer in samardzija as a top-tier starting pitcher, but i have to admit that perhaps i was wrong about him. he looks awfully good. im starting to think that if they can work something out for somewhat reasonable money he may be a keeper. if it is clear to ownership that he wants nothing short of top-tier money and will settle or nothing less, i guess you have to deal him and get something in return.


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FavreFan wrote:
Travis Wood should garner interest too.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:21 pm 
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i don't think id deal samardzija or bonafacio if i could help it. both of these guys are good enough and young enough to contribute to a winning team. guys like hammel, schierholz, valbuena, those are the guys i would try to deal. if there is a plan in place for this team to win in the next couple years (for the sake of argument) , why would the cubs trade the potentially long-term assets now just so you have to re-acquire replacements for them next year?

for the record i have not been a big believer in samardzija as a top-tier starting pitcher, but i have to admit that perhaps i was wrong about him. he looks awfully good. im starting to think that if they can work something out for somewhat reasonable money he may be a keeper. if it is clear to ownership that he wants nothing short of top-tier money and will settle or nothing less, i guess you have to deal him and get something in return.

I waver on Samardzija. He just turned 29 and this will only be his 3rd season of being a starting pitcher. Sure he's breaking out so far this spring but he's faded in his previous two years of pitching. Plus, he's an asshole union man through and through. The cat has been catered to and his favor is to stick it to the Cubs for the sake of future MLBPA members. Fuck him.


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With the explosion in Tommy John surgeries and Shark taking the mantle as Chicago's ace I'm shifting towards not trading Shark and giving him an extension. Although he's playing the dick union man, he offers comfort and reliability as he's never had arm troubles. Just having a guy that can that spin the ball every 5 days appears to becoming rarer and rarer.


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Kirkwood wrote:
With the explosion in Tommy John surgeries and Shark taking the mantle as Chicago's ace I'm shifting towards not trading Shark and giving him an extension. Although he's playing the dick union man, he offers comfort and reliability as he's never had arm troubles. Just having a guy that can that spin the ball every 5 days appears to becoming rarer and rarer.

No one gets injured until they get injured for the first time.

And while he does not have as many innings as a lot of starters his age...he is also 29 already. The 30's may not be nice to him.

Hard to say what I'd do. He has been more or less reliable and pitching Cy Young caliber.

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Veras DFA'd. Castillo to DL.


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Cubs sign C Yorvit Torrealba to minor league deal.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Cubs sign C Yorvit Torrealba to minor league deal.

I yorv it.

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The Jason Hammel love is outstanding. Could the guy get more than Feldman and Maholm combined? Everyone appears to be scared by Shark demands and looking at Hammel. Bidding war for Hammel and then consolation prize is Shark. :lol:


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Kirkwood wrote:
The Jason Hammel love is outstanding. Could the guy get more than Feldman and Maholm combined? Everyone appears to be scared by Shark demands and looking at Hammel. Bidding war for Hammel and then consolation prize is Shark. :lol:


I wish they would trade Shark already. This guys is really starting to suck.


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I think they have to wait until after David Price gets dealt. He's obviously the biggest trade chip on the market.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
I think they have to wait until after David Price gets dealt. He's obviously the biggest trade chip on the market.


I think that would be a bad move.


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Twitter abuzz with Cubs-A's trade talk: Shark &/or Hammel. A potential blockbuster with maybe top 3 A's prospects back to Cubs maybe including Barney and/or Valbuena too.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Cubs, Athletics In Serious Talks On Hammel And/Or Samardzija
By Jeff Todd [July 4, 2014 at 8:02pm CDT]

The Cubs and Athletics are in serious discussions regarding a major swap that would deliver Chicago starters Jason Hammel “and/or” Jeff Samardzija to Oakland, report Ken Rosenthal and Jon Morosi of FOX Sports (Twitter links). Top Oakland prospect Addison Russell has been discussed, according to the report.

Needless to say, a deal involving both Hammel and Samardzija would represent a stunning early turn in the market. The pair of Cubs hurlers has long been rumored to be among the best arms likely to change hands over the summer. But both were expected to have many suitors, some (but not all) of which would likely overlap.

Hammel is a sturdy option to bolster a rotation down the stretch. Signed to a one-year, $6MM contract entering the season, he owns a solid 2.98 ERA with 8.5 K/9 against 1.8 BB/9 through 102 2/3 frames. At this point, it seems reasonable to say that he is the most attractive, mid-level, pure rental arm available.

Samardzija, on the other hand, represents a possible mid or even long-term piece. He is earning a modest $5.35MM in his second (and second-to-last) season of arbitration eligibility. Though his excellent 2.83 ERA (8.6 K/9 and 2.6 BB/9) through 108 frames will warrant a significant raise next year, he surely projects to deliver significant excess value over his contract potential. And a team acquiring Samardzija may well make a run at an extension.

Though Hammel is expected to bring back some value, there is little doubt that Russell would only be involved if Samardzija was also on his way to Oakland. The 20-year-old shortstop is far and away the A’s best-regarded prospect, with a wide consensus that he is one of the twenty best pre-MLB players in the game. ESPN.com’s Keith Law (Insider link) ranked him as the third-best overall prospect coming into the season, lauding his outstanding across-the-board tools, projectable power, elite hands and arm at short, and overall feel for the game.

Indeed, it is arguable that Russell would be too great a return even for Samardzija. On the other hand, it is difficult to see the A’s landing Samardzija (or any other starter at or above his level) without including Russell. The fall-off in the A’s system comes fairly quickly. Billy McKinney is the team’s consensus second-best prospect, but he (like much of the rest of the organization’s best talent) has yet to advance above High-A ball and does not rate amongst the game’s best-rated young players.

For the A’s, the addition of at least one starter makes a good deal of sense. While the club has cruised to a league-best .616 winning percentage, backed by a +129 run differential that is far and away the best in baseball, it is being chased by two clubs (the Angels and Mariners) that rank 2nd and 3rd in the game in run differential. Though the rotation has delivered a stellar 3.34 ERA, its peripherals (3.90 FIP, 3.84 xFIP) paint a somewhat different picture. More importantly, perhaps, are some details on the team’s current slate of arms. Consider its top three hurlers this year: staff ace Sonny Gray is up to 111 innings but has never thrown more than 182 1/3 in a season as a pro; Jesse Chavez (103 innings) is about to pass his career high in innings pitched; and Scott Kazmir has a well-documented injury history.

It would not be surprising, for that matter, to see Oakland pursue two rotation additions. Looking further down the line at the club’s present options, Tommy Milone has a relatively low ceiling and has outperformed his peripherals this year, Dan Straily‘s minor league numbers largely match the ones that got him demoted, Drew Pomeranz is injured, and Josh Lindblom has just six big league starts to his credit at age 27.

Of course, Oakland could also stand to upgrade its options at second base. As Dave Cameron of Fangraphs notes on Twitter, that is another area where the Cubs could potentially add value in a hypothetical deal. Indeed, Luis Valbuena, Emilio Bonifacio, and Darwin Barney are all capable of manning the keystone. And it is not inconceivable that a deal could deliver a somewhat lesser prospect (or prospects) back to Oakland, in order to balance out the A’s sacrifice of future value.


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I'm on vacation with my family but I made calls + am being told Cubs/A's talks are real. 1 source: "Deal could + I repeat could be stunning"


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Source: #Cubs Triple-A infielder Arismendy Alcantara is involved in the trade discussions as well.

I want to keep this guy. Potential star or invaluable super sub.


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Source: #Cubs Triple-A infielder Arismendy Alcantara is involved in the trade discussions as well.

I want to keep this guy. Potential star or invaluable super sub.


Agree. That's seems to be a little much. What else would the A's be giving up?


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Peoria Matt wrote:
cpguy wrote:
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Robert Murray ‏@RobertMurrayMLB 3m

Source: #Cubs Triple-A infielder Arismendy Alcantara is involved in the trade discussions as well.

I want to keep this guy. Potential star or invaluable super sub.


Agree. That's seems to be a little much. What else would the A's be giving up?


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What the... Russell to a third team? So we have no idea yet who the Cubs could be getting. Settle in folks. We're in for a long one.

Remember Hammel was pulled today after only 92 pitches.


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I hope Theo gets raped so I can stop hearing about flipping.

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I hope Theo gets raped so I can stop hearing about flipping.


Wow.....Mike, some of us Cub fans like Abreu. It's OK.


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They have landed some nice talent in trades. Let's hope next year they are adding talent however.


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