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DAC

Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:08 am

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

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pittmike wrote:

I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.

Since Jake had about as good a run as any Cub in recent history not named Ferguson Jenkins, I would say that is an optimistic slant.

I trust the Cub's assessment that Darvish will be the better pitcher moving forward.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:25 am

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DAC wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

pittmike wrote:

I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.

Since Jake had about as good a run as any Cub in recent history not named Ferguson Jenkins, I would say that is an optimistic slant.

I trust the Cub's assessment that Darvish will be the better pitcher moving forward.

You would be foolish to defer to "in Theo we trust" when handing out big FA contracts

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:27 am

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

pittmike wrote:

I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.

Closer is still a chink in their armour

That is something that will be easy to acquire at the deadline, if it proves to be needed. Teams out of the playoff hunt have greater need for a decent prospect than a closer for a team going nowhere. Maddon has lots of new arms to choose from, it will be interesting to see how the bullpen shakes out.

who are the cubbie decent prospects?

If you had decent prospects you would have Chris Archer instead of Yu Darvish

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:30 am

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And dolphin would then be criticizing them for the trade.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:34 am

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RFDC wrote:

And dolphin would then be criticizing them for the trade.

Ron Coomer had a fabulous interview on the Score this morning proclaiming that Lester was going to have a career year at age 34. Check it out. You'd totally love it dude!

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:35 am

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good dolphin wrote:

If you had decent prospects you would have Chris Archer instead of Yu Darvish

Archer is 51-63 in his career. I heard that isn't acceptable. Especially to give up top prospects for.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:36 am

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spanky wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

If you had decent prospects you would have Chris Archer instead of Yu Darvish

Archer is 51-63 in his career. I heard that isn't acceptable. Especially to give up top prospects for.

Losing pitcher

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:37 am

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good dolphin wrote:

Ron Coomer had a fabulous interview on the Score this morning

Was he on because he's the Score Paczki expert?
I bet he downed a 6-pack during the interview alone.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:39 am

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spanky wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

If you had decent prospects you would have Chris Archer instead of Yu Darvish

Archer is 51-63 in his career. I heard that isn't acceptable. Especially to give up top prospects for.

About 7 months ago,your team traded one of the very top prospects in all of baseball along with their best pitching prospect for a starting pitcher that was 50-54.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:42 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

spanky wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

If you had decent prospects you would have Chris Archer instead of Yu Darvish

Archer is 51-63 in his career. I heard that isn't acceptable. Especially to give up top prospects for.

About 7 months ago,your team traded one of the very top prospects in all of baseball along with their best pitching prospect for a starting pitcher that was 50-54.

You may not get it, but we're referencing the same thing.

And to think....that guy was a #2 on an AL team! Imagine how nice it is to have that same guy as a #4 on an NL team! :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:16 am

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spanky wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Ron Coomer had a fabulous interview on the Score this morning

Was he on because he's the Score Paczki expert?
I bet he downed a 6-pack during the interview alone.

Coomer does not sound like the name of a person who would know about paczki

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:25 am

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good dolphin wrote:

spanky wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Ron Coomer had a fabulous interview on the Score this morning

Was he on because he's the Score Paczki expert?
I bet he downed a 6-pack during the interview alone.

Coomer does not sound like the name of a person who would know about paczki

Tomorrow he will just be the Score donut expert.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:31 pm

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Here's the breakdown of the deal:

2018- $25M
2019- $20M
2020- $22M
2021- $22M
2022- $19M
2023- $18M

Full no-trade for the first 4 years. To opt out after year 2 he has to do better than 4yr/$81M (+ incentives) at age 33.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:10 pm

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Keyser Soze wrote:

Not a bad deal if he stays healthy.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:26 pm

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Wonder what a creative 8 yr deal looks like?

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Yu Darvish had several 6-year offers, and also a creative 8-year proposal, before accepting his 6-year contract with the #Cubs

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:31 pm

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RFDC wrote:

I'll give you $100M for the next 4 years and another $100M 2038-2042

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:38 pm

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This was very exciting news when I read about it. I think the guy will be very good for us. He was good last year until game 7. I am very excited about the season now. It's just they need to find a real leadoff hitter. That's the only thing holding them back from getting back to the WS.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:14 pm

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Darvish misstepped on a entrance to the spring training clubhouse. Broken ankle. Expected to miss 4 months.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:44 pm

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Doubtful he ever opts out of this deal.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:38 pm

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This is a $124m retirement package. He is done.

This is what you get for forsaking Arrieta.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:44 pm

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Yu will make a Scwarber like return during the World Series to lead the Cubs to victory. Or not.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:56 pm

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America wrote:

This is a $124m retirement package. He is done.

This is what you get for forsaking Arrieta.

yep.

why u would have no interest in signing a core guy is beyond me.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:10 pm

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Nas wrote:

I love this deal!

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:20 pm

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Don Tiny wrote:

Hatchetman wrote:

I’d rather start James Shields in a playoff game.

Early contender for 'Dumbest Baseball Thought of the Year'.

At least Sheilds will be able to physically throw a baseball in October.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:23 pm

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If he retires due to injury i wonder if they can put in a claim and have their insurance pay for the rest of his contract. They would be fucked with the luxury tax but getting all that money back would more than cover it. I vote for retirement.

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America

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:33 pm

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He's not retiring.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:58 pm

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Nas wrote:

I love this deal!

U dick

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

I love this deal!

Still has more years remaining.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:07 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

I love this deal!

Still has more years remaining.

I believe this is what has so many people worried.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:20 pm

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America wrote:

Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

I love this deal!

Still has more years remaining.

I believe this is what has so many people worried.

He's injured. Injuries eventually heal.

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