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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Javy says Goodbye to Chicago in a letter

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:21 pm

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IMU wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Man, I really hate to agree with Steve, but he is right about Javy's defense. It has been great as usual. Also fielding % is a horrible metric.

Which one of your 10 bobbles this season is your favorite?

UZR still loves Javy this year. My Eye Test still loves Javy this year. All that matters.

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TurdFerguson

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:33 pm

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Javy picking fights over sign stealing...

https://deadspin.com/javier-baez-came-u ... 1825465919

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Darkside

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TurdFerguson wrote:

Javy picking fights over sign stealing...

https://deadspin.com/javier-baez-came-u ... 1825465919

Boy those Rockies announcers dont like getting called out for stealing signs.

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TurdFerguson

Post subject: Re: Javy says Goodbye to Chicago in a letter

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:10 pm

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Darkside wrote:

TurdFerguson wrote:

Javy picking fights over sign stealing...

https://deadspin.com/javier-baez-came-u ... 1825465919

Boy those Rockies announcers dont like getting called out for stealing signs.

Yeah, they seemed a bit butthurt when there is nothing in the rules to prevent Javy from harassing a base runner.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:51 pm

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

We were all burned by Brooks Kieshnek.

Not as much as by Corey Patterson.

It was easy to avoid getting burned by Patterson, just keep the flames at his eye level and he'd miss it every time.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:24 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

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SirTinkleButton wrote:

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That’s what makes some Cubs fans insufferable.

Every fan base has these fans. Kind of like proclaiming this is the year of Giolitto's CY Young run

I’m still waiting for Bryan LaHair’s induction into Cooperstown

He is already there, right next to Gordon Beckham

Now we're comparing guys who had a cup of coffee in the big leagues to ten year veterans?

Their HOF case is the same no matter how long either played.

Come on JORR, you can do better

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Javy says Goodbye to Chicago in a letter

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:26 pm

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Nobody predicted the Hall of Fame or any type of greatness for Bryan LaHair. Some pointed out that he had a great first half one year and earned an All Star selection...which is true.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:31 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Nobody predicted the Hall of Fame or any type of greatness for Bryan LaHair.

I'm reasonably sure there were Cubs fans here who wanted LaHair over Konerko on their team. That isn't HOF, but its definitely assuming some greatness.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Javy says Goodbye to Chicago in a letter

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:34 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Nobody predicted the Hall of Fame or any type of greatness for Bryan LaHair.

I'm reasonably sure there were Cubs fans here who wanted LaHair over Konerko on their team. That isn't HOF, but its definitely assuming some greatness.

No, you're remembering it wrong or Soxing it up.

We were arguing the all city team. Some writer picked LaHair because he WAS better than Konerko in that first half. Numbers don't lie and it wasnt about going forward. It was who had the best first half.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:28 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Nobody predicted the Hall of Fame or any type of greatness for Bryan LaHair.

I'm reasonably sure there were Cubs fans here who wanted LaHair over Konerko on their team. That isn't HOF, but its definitely assuming some greatness.

I stand by the bold statement. It wasn't all, or even MANY, but there were some for sure who assumed that LaHair > Konerko.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:31 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Nobody predicted the Hall of Fame or any type of greatness for Bryan LaHair.

I'm reasonably sure there were Cubs fans here who wanted LaHair over Konerko on their team. That isn't HOF, but its definitely assuming some greatness.

I stand by the bold statement. It wasn't all, or even MANY, but there were some for sure who assumed that LaHair > Konerko.

I wanted LaHair versus Konerko on my track team.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:43 pm

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Darkside wrote:

TurdFerguson wrote:

Javy picking fights over sign stealing...

https://deadspin.com/javier-baez-came-u ... 1825465919

Boy those Rockies announcers dont like getting called out for stealing signs.

That was tremendous.

The lack of self-awareness from the announcers made it twice as good.

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TurdFerguson

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:52 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Nobody predicted the Hall of Fame or any type of greatness for Bryan LaHair.

I'm reasonably sure there were Cubs fans here who wanted LaHair over Konerko on their team. That isn't HOF, but its definitely assuming some greatness.

I stand by the bold statement. It wasn't all, or even MANY, but there were some for sure who assumed that LaHair > Konerko.

You won't get an argument that both fan bases have idiots.

I guess this validates Dan Fouts over Tom Brady cause someone said it.

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FavreFan

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:19 pm

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RPB is just salty cuz he’s one of the Cub fans who wanted LaHair over Konerko going forward.

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:00 pm

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I think he is just legit really good now. Took 2.5 years of ML service time, but he has developed.

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Javier Baez update: .301/.370/.753 (193 wRC+).

That slash line ranks seventh best in baseball ... one spot ahead of Mike Trout.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:53 am

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IMU wrote:

I think he is just legit really good now. Took 2.5 years of ML service time, but he has developed.

Exactly why anybody who says Moncada is a bust should be castrated, drawn, and quartered. Sometimes, it simply takes guys some time to figure things out.

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Post subject: Re: Javy says Goodbye to Chicago in a letter

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

I think he is just legit really good now. Took 2.5 years of ML service time, but he has developed.

Exactly why anybody who says Moncada is a bust should be castrated, drawn, and quartered. Sometimes, it simply takes guys some time to figure things out.

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rogers park bryan

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:07 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

RPB is just salty cuz he’s one of the Cub fans who wanted LaHair over Konerko going forward.

Bryan's with a Y have to stick together.

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IMU

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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 7:55 pm

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

IMU wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

IMU wrote:

He has not played phenomenal defense this season.

Sure he has. But to get the very best of Javy, he should be at SS and Russell (who has a weaker arm) should be moved to 2B.. Russell is going to have more issues with his shoulder. You can see how he strains to make some throws and playing 2nd would allow him to make shorter, easier throws and make him less likely to have more shoulder problems.

No, he has not.

He played SS yesterday and had another error. He has a .937 FLD% in the middle infield this season. He is good defensively, normally. But he hasn't been yet this season.

He should be there every game. Just as Almora should be in CF every game. the 2 most important positions on the field.

Caller Bob wrote:

IMU wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Man, I really hate to agree with Steve, but he is right about Javy's defense. It has been great as usual. Also fielding % is a horrible metric.

Which one of your 10 bobbles this season is your favorite?

UZR still loves Javy this year. My Eye Test still loves Javy this year. All that matters.

8 errors now.

Baez has a negative UZR. Starlin Castro's defensive numbers are significantly better than Baez's

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IMU

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:16 pm

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IMU wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

IMU wrote:

He has not played phenomenal defense this season.

No, he has not.

He played SS yesterday and had another error. He has a .937 FLD% in the middle infield this season. He is good defensively, normally. But he hasn't been yet this season.

Bump.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:38 pm

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That error today was absolutely terrible. Major league players don't make that type of mistake. I'm wondering if he's been spending so much time learning how to swing at every single pitch thrown at him that he's neglecting defense.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:57 am

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

He's the same as always, he makes some amazing plays but boots the routine ones too often. Addy has always been our best glove.. Keep Javy at 2nd.

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Elmhurst Steve

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:32 pm

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With Javy you take the good with the bad and there is plenty more good.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

With Javy you take the good with the bad and there is plenty more good.

You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life.

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Jaw Breaker

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OBP dropping like a rock...seems like he's guessing on every pitch.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:

OBP dropping like a rock...seems like he's guessing on every pitch.

Yeap. Not seeing the ball at all. Just guessing and guessing wrong.

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:46 am

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Javy doesn't handle success well. He's such an arrogant douche that mild praise puts him back to the mindset of "fuck it, I'm going deep" on every pitch.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

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denisdman wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

OBP dropping like a rock...seems like he's guessing on every pitch.

Yeap. Not seeing the ball at all. Just guessing and guessing wrong.

Its not guessing. He is literally swinging at every pitch no matter what. I told you this would happen as soon as it warms up and the balls started cutting away like they should.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

denisdman wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

OBP dropping like a rock...seems like he's guessing on every pitch.

Yeap. Not seeing the ball at all. Just guessing and guessing wrong.

Its not guessing. He is literally swinging at every pitch no matter what. I told you this would happen as soon as it warms up and the balls started cutting away like they should.

He is not a disciplined hitter and never was so you are right. Some can improve than and others not. This really the part of the job that is hardest on a GM and the fans as well. Especially after you have gotten some rewards from a player.

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