I was comparing to Lillys entire run on the Cubs.

I think he's doing well for having to pitch on a .500 team

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And men have lost their reason.

More or less confident than you were that "Cubbie occurrences" would prevent the Cubs from ever winning the World Series?

He's got all his bases covered, Quintana can do no good..he will always be right about him being a bum ass .500 pitcher..even if he isn't.

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I'll say they overpaid for him. Now let me be clear.....Chris Sale is one of the top 5 pitchers from April through August. But when September rolls around, you can stick a fork in him......he's done. He has blown at least 2 Cy Young awards because of it and the trend continued in Boston last year. I said in 2016 when he got off to an unbelievable start to the season and started the All-Star game, that he would wear down and his ERA would be at least a run to a run and a half higher in the second half and he would not win the Cy Young. That was exactly what happened. He will help a team to win their division (providing it's a good team) and be their ace and dominate till September. But if he's a lesser version of himself when it all matters the most, is he really a guy you want to pitch in the big games?

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No. He's a .500 pitcher because he's a .500 pitcher.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Loving his start today, 2 IP, 50+ pitches thrown and 4 ER thus far (and counting!)

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Brutal outing. No excuses.

and he just got yanked at 2.1 IP with 4 ER and the bases loaded

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Presently, the Cubs are a bad team and Quintana is a mediocre pitcher.

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Can't argue with the facts.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Not concerned. Crappy day.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

The Braves are playing in the same weather.

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8.16 ERA is mediocre?

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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I know. And if the Cubs were up 10-2, I wouldn't judge the Braves based on it either.

Starting from the Ozzie Albies HR, you knew shit was going to be weird today.

Reminds me of this "game": https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/2/ ... ay-11-2003

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Keep digging for excuses with Quintana. Soon enough you will pull a 180 on him like I did.

Now, the Cubs (on paper) are much better than the Sox with Quintana, but still let me give you from friendly advice. Temper your expectations with Jose Quintana.

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He's just not a very good pitcher from what I've seen. He nibbles all the time and doesn't have a consistent "out" pitch. I'm not sure how he put up the numbers he did with the Sox, but he hasn't impressed me at all.

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Hello....wins don't matter

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He's a fucking bum. They could have had Verlander for 1/2 the cost.

Wow, Quintana pitched great today. Dueled the Braves starter pitch for pitch. Excellent outing.

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I feel like when Quintana goes out there, it doesn't even matter if he's on or not, the Cubs are going to win that game.

He's transcendent.

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I just had to look to see which section this thread was in.

I guessed wrong.

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They sure don’t!

Of course they do. They show Quintana to be who he is. If Theo understood how much W/L record matters he never would have traded what he did for him. Now he's got a .500 pitcher. I'm sure that's not what he thought he was getting. But we can discuss it later when it's in the books. I'm sure you'll have another reason why he didn't perform the way you thought he would because you valued K/BB ratio more than W/L record.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

I don't care about wins but his 4.80 FIP sucks major dick. Either way the trade sucks for the Cubs.

He has no heart. His other numbers are going to be whatever they need to be to get him to a record that is close to .500. You have a 190 game sample that illustrates that, which is exactly why W/L record matters. Of course, teams can keep giving away the farm for Quintanas and Samardzijas and when they produce the same records they always have guys like Keyser Soze will explain why they are actually better than those records.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

His " sample size" with one of the shittiest teams in baseball is skewed.. He's been fine as a cub last year and he will be fine this year.. Every year away from the Sox will tell a different story.

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