Arismendy Alcanthitra

America · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:59 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

America wrote:

I was predicting that his power would decline. You disagreed with my premise. Then his power declined, as I predicted.

Drawing conclusions on what if's is a dumb ass way to analyze baseball. You're dumb.

You're not right about much. You contradict yourself constantly and seem like an angry individual with obsessive tendencies about a baseball team that you dont like. Kinda weird.

It wasn't a what if. He had a HR/FB rate that was extraordinary and I said it would correct itself (THE EXACT SAME WAY JOSE ABREU'S CORRECTED ITSELF KIND YOU) and then voila! it corrected. You tried saying I was going to be wrong because Alcantara went from mediocre to average power as a minor leaguer.

Then I was right. And you were wrong.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

America wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

America spins all thing Cub negatively and most things Sox positively.

I dont even think he'd disagree

I wrote a lengthy post in the White Sox forum about the state of the Sox system in which I described 5 prospects who declined. Thats 5 more than I have ever seen a Cubs fan say are losing major steam. I made a post saying Andy Wilkins is worthless. I loathe John Danks. Stop making shit up.

You fucking touted Marcus Semien as a good prospect and Kris Bryant as a likely bust in the same week. That alone is proof enough. Its indefensible idiocy.

And you're flat out wrong about the Cub fan prospect posts. There's a thread here with plenty of posts (literally in the hundreds) about Cub prospects regressing (Baez, Almora, Soler, Vitters, Jackson)

I could post 6 of them right now and prove you wrong. Or do you want to just admit what we both know?

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

America wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

America wrote:

I was predicting that his power would decline. You disagreed with my premise. Then his power declined, as I predicted.

Drawing conclusions on what if's is a dumb ass way to analyze baseball. You're dumb.

You're not right about much. You contradict yourself constantly and seem like an angry individual with obsessive tendencies about a baseball team that you dont like. Kinda weird.

It wasn't a what if. He had a HR/FB rate that was extraordinary and I said it would correct itself (THE EXACT SAME WAY JOSE ABREU'S CORRECTED ITSELF KIND YOU) and then voila! it corrected. You tried saying I was going to be wrong because Alcantara went from mediocre to average power as a minor leaguer.

So you're just a liar now?

I never said you were wrong about anything. I said you had a faulty premise (true) and you were selective in your reasoning (true)

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:01 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Can someone tell me what a star utility player is?

Mark DeRosa?

Wrigley gave him a standing O upon his return. :lol:

The list of players who Cubs fans love and who they hate may be the most bizarre in all of sports.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

immessedup17 wrote:

Alcantara is a versatile, up and coming star utility player. Semien is a career minor leaguer.

Alcantara is a versatile fielder.

Semien will be a major leaguer

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:03 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

Alcantara is a versatile, up and coming star utility player. Semien is a career minor leaguer.

Alcantara is a versatile fielder.

Semien will be a major leaguer

Good to see America is here to keep your irrational exuberance in check.

America · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:03 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

America wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

America spins all thing Cub negatively and most things Sox positively.

I dont even think he'd disagree

I wrote a lengthy post in the White Sox forum about the state of the Sox system in which I described 5 prospects who declined. Thats 5 more than I have ever seen a Cubs fan say are losing major steam. I made a post saying Andy Wilkins is worthless. I loathe John Danks. Stop making shit up.

You fucking touted Marcus Semien as a good prospect and Kris Bryant as a likely bust in the same week. That alone is proof enough. Its indefensible idiocy.

And you're flat out wrong about the Cub fan prospect posts. There's a thread here with plenty of posts (literally in the hundreds) about Cub prospects regressing (Baez, Almora, Soler, Vitters, Jackson)

I could post 6 of them right now and prove you wrong. Or do you want to just admit what we both know?

Let's hear the 6.

America · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:04 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Can someone tell me what a star utility player is?

Mark DeRosa?

Wrigley gave him a standing O upon his return. :lol:

The list of players who Cubs fans love and who they hate may be the most bizarre in all of sports.

There's a pretty obvious way it's determined. Everyone knows.

City of Fools · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:06 pm

America wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Can someone tell me what a star utility player is?

Mark DeRosa?

Wrigley gave him a standing O upon his return. :lol:

The list of players who Cubs fans love and who they hate may be the most bizarre in all of sports.

There's a pretty obvious way it's determined. Everyone knows.

and yet, strangely enough the Cubs did worse without DeRosa. He fit well on that team.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

America wrote:

Let's hear the 6.

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=2050727#p2050727
Almora struggling

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=2021519#p2021519
BA questioned about not downgrading Baez

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=2064638#p2064638
Never been a Baez guy, k's irritate me

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=2002704#p2002704
Soler and Baez might not even be Major leaguers

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=2034118#p2034118
Alcantara's K rate is bad and he will struggle

viewtopic.php?p=2067732#p2067732
Not impressed with Alcantara. Half these guys will bust like Pie, Patterson

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Can someone tell me what a star utility player is?

Mark DeRosa?

Wrigley gave him a standing O upon his return. :lol:

The list of players who Cubs fans love and who they hate may be the most bizarre in all of sports.

Well most teams just go with guys that were with the team in Great/Championship years

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

So, its clear I was right. That's six examples right there.

Ill take America's apology whenever he's ready.

America · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:46 pm

Then why were you so convinced Alcantara's little power bump in July was for real?

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

America wrote:

Then why were you so convinced Alcantara's little power bump in July was for real?

I wasnt.

For the third time. You chose to use his minor league stats from last year instead of this year. That is selective reasoning.

America · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:06 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

America wrote:

Then why were you so convinced Alcantara's little power bump in July was for real?

I wasnt.

For the third time. You chose to use his minor league stats from last year instead of this year. That is selective reasoning.

So now you're claiming to just be stuck arguing semantics, when I pulled his full season of MiLB stats instead of this year's half season, when you ultimately agreed with the core (lol) of my argument?

Ok. Whatever you have to tell yourself.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43552

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Can someone tell me what a star utility player is?

Mark DeRosa?

Wrigley gave him a standing O upon his return. :lol:

The list of players who Cubs fans love and who they hate may be the most bizarre in all of sports.

This would be a fantastic thread.

Rod · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:21 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Can someone tell me what a star utility player is? It sounds like an oxymoron.

If you are a star, wouldn't you just play your best position?

I once read an article in an old Baseball Digest about Jerry Lynch. It said he was "too good to play everyday." :lol:

City of Fools · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:24 pm

I think the real question is, does America think that the Cubs will be contenders by 2016?

Chus · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:41 pm

immessedup17 wrote:

He may finish with...36 or 37 HR? When he was at 25 HR...some Sox fans pegged him for a guaranteed 50.

I never heard anybody say that.

Hank Scorpio · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:03 pm

Chus wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

He may finish with...36 or 37 HR? When he was at 25 HR...some Sox fans pegged him for a guaranteed 50.

I never heard anybody say that.

Not guaranteed.... From the Abreu-o-Meter thread.

newper wrote:

Lookie here now.... McGwire hit 49 as a rookie in Oakland. We may have a challenger.

FavreFan wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Yeah this kid is awesome to watch hit. Gives me a reason to tune in thats for sure. Fuck , he may go 40 and 120 this year. :shock:

60 and 150.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:04 pm

Hank Scorpio wrote:

Chus wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

He may finish with...36 or 37 HR? When he was at 25 HR...some Sox fans pegged him for a guaranteed 50.

I never heard anybody say that.

Not guaranteed.... From the Abreu-o-Meter thread.

newper wrote:

Lookie here now.... McGwire hit 49 as a rookie in Oakland. We may have a challenger.

FavreFan wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Yeah this kid is awesome to watch hit. Gives me a reason to tune in thats for sure. Fuck , he may go 40 and 120 this year. :shock:

60 and 150.

You should be suspended for 8 weeks.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

America wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

America wrote:

Then why were you so convinced Alcantara's little power bump in July was for real?

I wasnt.

For the third time. You chose to use his minor league stats from last year instead of this year. That is selective reasoning.

So now you're claiming to just be stuck arguing semantics, when I pulled his full season of MiLB stats instead of this year's half season, when you ultimately agreed with the core (lol) of my argument?

Ok. Whatever you have to tell yourself.

No, thats wrong, you still dont get it. You're a little slow.

All good. Enjoy your hatred!

Chus · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:15 pm

Hank Scorpio wrote:

Chus wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

He may finish with...36 or 37 HR? When he was at 25 HR...some Sox fans pegged him for a guaranteed 50.

I never heard anybody say that.

Not guaranteed.... From the Abreu-o-Meter thread.

newper wrote:

Lookie here now.... McGwire hit 49 as a rookie in Oakland. We may have a challenger.

FavreFan wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Yeah this kid is awesome to watch hit. Gives me a reason to tune in thats for sure. Fuck , he may go 40 and 120 this year. :shock:

60 and 150.

Newper said he may challenge the mark of 49 set by McGwire, and FF was clearly joking.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:06 pm

ALCANTARA DOIN BIG THANGS

THE INQUISITOR · **Posted:** Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:27 am

OK guys watch how both topics Alcantara's power and Abreu's 50 home run discussion are tied up in one neat little package.

Second half stats

Abreu 48 games 206 PA 4 HR
Alcantra 53 games 228 PA 8 HR

Alcantara using Steve Stone's words "FAR SUPERIOR"

Brick · **Posted:** Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:28 am

THE INQUISITOR wrote:

OK guys watch how both topics Alcantara's power and Abreu's 50 home run discussion are tied up in one neat little package.

Second half stats

Abreu 48 games 206 PA 4 HR
Alcantra 53 games 228 PA 8 HR

Alcantara using Steve Stone's words "FAR SUPERIOR"

You should be suspended for 8 weeks.

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