Was this Ricketts or Theo who brought the same idea to Boston?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I just love how I used to constantly hear from people in my pre-CSFMB/CFMB days how awesome Wrigley was because it was just about the baseball, there were almost no advertisements, no fireworks, no video board, and it was like you were watching a game as it has been done for the past 100 years.

Now, it's all about a "Starbucks Reserve Bar"!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I'm still upset they added lights!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I am not certain of more modern renovations or monetizing but I recall it being well before Theo. My first trip to Fenway was in 1989? And they closed the street and owned the stores across the street then.

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Elections have consequences.

Ya, because no one on here ever talked about wanting video boards, and no one on here ever talked about wanting better facilities, and no one on here ever said "screw chicago & the politics" and go build a new wrigley field in rosemont / the burbs. ya, that never happened. It was all about keeping wrigley "pristine".

Keep creating your own narratives!

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

Here's a narrative. The Cubs used to be special losers with a special ballpark. You're not special anymore but you want to act like you still are.

https://youtu.be/3sWTnsemkIs

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Kash, and Don

Scorehead did.

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Ya...you've been trying to sell that one for a few years now huh? Now Cubs fans aren't special anymore because their team finally won a world series? Ha fucking ha. You are a dumb fuck. Told you before and I'll tell you again...it was always about hope..not about the losing. I'll make a wager that every true Cubs fan HOPES their team wins it all again this year....and next...and next. I remember your stupid analogy about dog races and chasing the rabbit and what happens when the dog catches the rabbit? Guess what....when they release the next rabbit, the dogs will chase that one as well and try to catch it just the same. Being a Cubs fan and part of a Cubs family has always been special to me and it always will be. I would assume it is the same for Sox fans, and fans of other teams too...but frankly I don't give a shit about that.

Jealous Jorr is back baby!!!

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

That's my point! There were other who weren't against it either. I didn't care..but I wanted upgrades / video boards, etc...

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

Are you saying no one ever said those things? Maybe you thought Wrigley was bad because it didn't have ads all over the place, no video board, and didn't have an outdoor park for wine festivals and folk music but in my experience a lot of people did.

Did you think Wrigley sucked in 2005?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You posted that "nobody ever said..." and then you agreed with me that there were people who did think it was all about the ballpark. Talk about false narratives...

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Yeah the Red Sox are nothing now after winning the WS. In fact, I rarely even hear about them.

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I think Frank's sarcasm meter is broken.

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Not really. You can never tell what the hell is going on with walkrman.

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Do you hear anymore stories about them being lovable or darlings? Or do you hear about them being stone cold baseball business killers?

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Elections have consequences.

Are you under the impression that the fans enjoyed being lovable losers? I want to be talked about like the Yankees and Red Sox. Those are 'special' franchises. I don't need the Cubs to be called loveable anything.

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My point I am trying to make...albeit badly I guess....is that there were Cubs fans on both sides of the issue. Those that said leave it be...no signs, no video boards...day games only, etc....and then there were those who said fix up wrigley with video boards ads, whatever...and also those who said screw wrigley & chicago and just move.

Personally I didn't care about Wrigley Field and what they did with it or without it. I wanted some upgrades, video boards, etc...but most of my Cubs life has been spent wanting a better team.

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

Seriously? I think I'm a pretty easy read. I am getting older though so who knows...

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

There's no doubt the Red Sox fan base has lost something though. They are no longer the noble losers who came so close time and time again only to have their hearts broken. Now they're just another team trying to build a legacy like the Yankees have which is something they will never do.

There will be no more tortured prose about the trials of Red Sox fans and Cub fans. Unless you really think those franchises have some inherent greatness that people appreciate. Now the Cubs don't even have the special ballpark. We'll see what happens when they have a shitty team. Although I'm sure most of you think that will never happen.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Kash, and Don

Then you absolutely should not have posted phrases like, "no that never happened", "nobody here ever said", and "false narratives"

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It was literally clear to everyone but you what he was driving at.

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First off, comparing the Red Sox to the Yankees is silly. Where is stoneroses when you need him?

But no, I wouldn't say you enjoyed being a lovable loser, but it was your special identity that has now disappeared. Now you're like a Marlins fan. Congratulations!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Kash, and Don

hence the sarcasm. sorry you missed it.

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

White Sux fans sure know about being irrelevant. We shall see in ten years, when the current young core has moved on.

It is possible that in 25 years I will be fishing in my retirement pond and many will be talking about these Cubs like the 85 Bears are discussed now.

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Elections have consequences.

MANY on here argued that Game 7 was the greatest baseball game ever played based mostly on the significance of what it meant to win it.

Yeah, but they didn't lose anything by finally winning one.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Good chance. The 2005 White Sox are already approaching that. Considering they have been shit ever since, just like the 85 Bears

Seeing Caller Bob struggle for relevance is sad.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Yep. The Caller Bob Era was very short-lived.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Kash, and Don

Relevance? I'll be enjoying my 100 win team pound through another great season. Enjoy a 60 win season at arrow down park.