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When a thief whacks you on the head and takes your wallet, that's just business too.


Except this was a whack on the head and he gave him millions of dollars.
He didn't give him anything.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
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When a thief whacks you on the head and takes your wallet, that's just business too.


Except this was a whack on the head and he gave him millions of dollars.
He didn't give him anything.


What do you mean


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Bucky Chris wrote:
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When a thief whacks you on the head and takes your wallet, that's just business too.


Except this was a whack on the head and he gave him millions of dollars.
He didn't give him anything.


What do you mean
Ricky is looking at the same financial situation he was before Theo "discovered Maddon was available".

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ricky is looking at the same financial situation he was before Theo "discovered Maddon was available".


Ricky is now available to make more money, actually. And secure a longer deal. Twins are already interested. It sucks for him he has to change jobs, but it's not going to negatively affect his finances.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
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Ricky is looking at the same financial situation he was before Theo "discovered Maddon was available".


Ricky is now available to make more money, actually. And secure a longer deal. Twins are already interested. It sucks for him he has to change jobs, but it's not going to negatively affect his finances.
So Theo gave him the gift of the unemployment line? :lol:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Ricky is looking at the same financial situation he was before Theo "discovered Maddon was available".


Ricky is now available to make more money, actually. And secure a longer deal. Twins are already interested. It sucks for him he has to change jobs, but it's not going to negatively affect his finances.
So Theo gave him the gift of the unemployment line? :lol:


Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.
Not in the context of your quote that "he gave him millions of dollars".

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.
Not in the context of your quote that "he gave him millions of dollars".


He is still paying him, yes. So yea, he is.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
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Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.
Not in the context of your quote that "he gave him millions of dollars".


He is still paying him, yes. So yea, he is.

Do we know what his contract was for???

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Hawg Ass wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.
Not in the context of your quote that "he gave him millions of dollars".


He is still paying him, yes. So yea, he is.

Do we know what his contract was for???


I don't think it's public. Not positive, though.


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So, how do we know he is collecting millions?

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So, is Joe Maddon going to bat .300, hit 30 HR's and knock in 120 RBI?

No?

Well he shouldn't feel too bad because his new prospects won't be either.

Doh!


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.
Not in the context of your quote that "he gave him millions of dollars".


He is still paying him, yes. So yea, he is.
You're the worst.

He's getting paid the same either way. He wasn't given anything unless you think your bosses "give" you money every two weeks.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Sort of. But more importantly, what you said was 100% incorrect.
Not in the context of your quote that "he gave him millions of dollars".


He is still paying him, yes. So yea, he is.
You're the worst.

He's getting paid the same either way. He wasn't given anything unless you think your bosses "give" you money every two weeks.


I'm earning it though. Like, working for it. He's now getting it for not working. And he now has the opportunity to make more money. So his financial status doesn't have to be the same. It can be better.


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He'll still be paid by the Cubs and im sure he'll have another job soon. The Cubs now have 3 managers on the payroll no if Maddon signs no?

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He'll still be paid by the Cubs and im sure he'll have another job soon. The Cubs now have 3 managers on the payroll no if Maddon signs no?

Yes, they are still paying Sveum also.

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He'll still be paid by the Cubs and im sure he'll have another job soon. The Cubs now have 3 managers on the payroll no if Maddon signs no?


I would guess the contract includes language that he can't keep collecting Cub money if he gets another managing job.

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Seems there won't be tampering either.



Statement from #Cubs Theo Epstein on the firing of Rick Renteria:

Today we made the difficult decision to replace Rick Renteria as manager of the Chicago Cubs. On behalf of Tom Ricketts and Jed Hoyer, I thank Rick for his dedication and commitment, and for making the Cubs a better organization.

Rick’s sterling reputation should only be enhanced by his season as Cubs manager. We challenged Rick to create an environment in which our young players could develop and thrive at the big league level, and he succeeded. Working with the youngest team in the league and an imperfect roster, Rick had the club playing hard and improving throughout the season. His passion, character, optimism and work ethic showed up every single day.

Rick deserved to come back for another season as Cubs manager, and we said as much when we announced that he would be returning in 2015. We met with Rick two weeks ago for a long end-of-season evaluation and discussed plans for next season. We praised Rick to the media and to our season ticket holders. These actions were made in good faith.

Last Thursday, we learned that Joe Maddon – who may be as well suited as anyone in the industry to manage the challenges that lie ahead of us – had become a free agent. We confirmed the news with Major League Baseball, and it became public knowledge the next day. We saw it as a unique opportunity and faced a clear dilemma: be loyal to Rick or be loyal to the organization. In this business of trying to win a world championship for the first time in 107 years, the organization has priority over any one individual. We decided to pursue Joe.

While there was no clear playbook for how to handle this type of situation, we knew we had to be transparent with Rick before engaging with Joe. Jed flew to San Diego last Friday and told Rick in person of our intention to talk to Joe about the managerial job. Subsequently, Jed and I provided updates to Rick via telephone and today informed him that we will indeed make a change.

We offered Rick a choice of other positions with the Cubs, but he is of course free to leave the organization and pursue opportunities elsewhere. Armed with the experience of a successful season and all the qualities that made him our choice a year ago, Rick will no doubt make an excellent major league manager when given his next chance.

Rick often said he was the beneficiary of the hard work of others who came before him. Now, in the young players he helped, we reap the benefits of his hard work as we move forward. He deserved better and we wish him nothing but the best.

We have clung to two important ideals during our three years in Chicago. The first is to always be loyal to our mission of building the Cubs into a championship organization that can sustain success. The second is to be transparent with our fans. As painful as the last week was at times, we believe we stayed true to these two ideals in handling a sensitive situation. To our fans: we hope you understand, and we appreciate your continued support of the Cubs.

Theo Epstein is clearly the best front office guy in the game.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
I'm earning it though. Like, working for it. He's now getting it for not working. And he now has the opportunity to make more money. So his financial status doesn't have to be the same. It can be better.
He earned it just as much as you did.

It's a contract. It is his job to operate under the terms of it.

I can't believe I'm having this conversation.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
Seems there won't be tampering either.



Statement from #Cubs Theo Epstein on the firing of Rick Renteria:

Today we made the difficult decision to replace Rick Renteria as manager of the Chicago Cubs. On behalf of Tom Ricketts and Jed Hoyer, I thank Rick for his dedication and commitment, and for making the Cubs a better organization.

Rick’s sterling reputation should only be enhanced by his season as Cubs manager. We challenged Rick to create an environment in which our young players could develop and thrive at the big league level, and he succeeded. Working with the youngest team in the league and an imperfect roster, Rick had the club playing hard and improving throughout the season. His passion, character, optimism and work ethic showed up every single day.

Rick deserved to come back for another season as Cubs manager, and we said as much when we announced that he would be returning in 2015. We met with Rick two weeks ago for a long end-of-season evaluation and discussed plans for next season. We praised Rick to the media and to our season ticket holders. These actions were made in good faith.

Last Thursday, we learned that Joe Maddon – who may be as well suited as anyone in the industry to manage the challenges that lie ahead of us – had become a free agent. We confirmed the news with Major League Baseball, and it became public knowledge the next day. We saw it as a unique opportunity and faced a clear dilemma: be loyal to Rick or be loyal to the organization. In this business of trying to win a world championship for the first time in 107 years, the organization has priority over any one individual. We decided to pursue Joe.

While there was no clear playbook for how to handle this type of situation, we knew we had to be transparent with Rick before engaging with Joe. Jed flew to San Diego last Friday and told Rick in person of our intention to talk to Joe about the managerial job. Subsequently, Jed and I provided updates to Rick via telephone and today informed him that we will indeed make a change.

We offered Rick a choice of other positions with the Cubs, but he is of course free to leave the organization and pursue opportunities elsewhere. Armed with the experience of a successful season and all the qualities that made him our choice a year ago, Rick will no doubt make an excellent major league manager when given his next chance.

Rick often said he was the beneficiary of the hard work of others who came before him. Now, in the young players he helped, we reap the benefits of his hard work as we move forward. He deserved better and we wish him nothing but the best.

We have clung to two important ideals during our three years in Chicago. The first is to always be loyal to our mission of building the Cubs into a championship organization that can sustain success. The second is to be transparent with our fans. As painful as the last week was at times, we believe we stayed true to these two ideals in handling a sensitive situation. To our fans: we hope you understand, and we appreciate your continued support of the Cubs.

Theo Epstein is clearly the best front office guy in the game.

I agree, for going thru managers.

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From twitter feed of @BNightengale:
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 2 hours ago
Terry Ryan, the #Twins GM, is now considering whether to bring in Rick Renteria for an interview for their managerial opening.


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Terry Ryan is a an underrated very smart baseball guy

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Theo not only gave a great manager an employment opportunity that will make the Cubs better; he gave the current guy his continued money while allowing him to make more money elsewhere (with Ricketts money).

I'd call him a combination of Robin Hood and Jesus if it weren't insulting to him!

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Theo Epstein is clearly the best front office guy in the game.


Have you ever heard of Brian Sabean?

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Regular Reader wrote:
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Theo Epstein is clearly the best front office guy in the game.


Have you ever heard of Brian Sabean?


Is he an assistant to Theo?

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I'd call him a combination of Robin Hood and Jesus if it weren't insulting to him!


Funny, I think of him as a combination of Jeff Sheldrake and Milo Minderbinder.

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Theo Epstein is clearly the best front office guy in the game.


Have you ever heard of Brian Sabean?


Is he an assistant to Theo?


No, but he's spent 15+ years trying to show Theo's thick headed god Billy Beane how to actually win something in the Bay Area.

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Theo Epstein is clearly the best front office guy in the game.


Have you ever heard of Brian Sabean?


Is he an assistant to Theo?


No, but he's spent 15+ years trying to show Theo's thick headed god Billy Beane how to actually win something in the Bay Area.


So he will be Theo's assistant within a year or two. Gotcha.

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