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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:19 am 
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Tomlin for sure. But Jake? I know Maddon has to win Game 6 before the Cubs can play Game 7, but I do not believe he can use Chapman for 6-8 outs tonite and then expect him to be effective for 3-4 outs tomorrow. At best you would probably hope that Chapman can cover 8 outs between these two games.


Maddon can't afford to let Arrieta walk the bases full in a one run game in the fourth or fifth inning. He's gonna be on a short leash by necessity. That's my point. In the regular season you'd let him go and maybe get out of it himself. It's going to be hard to do that tonight.

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Both pitchers will have incredibly short leashes. Issue is the Indians have the horses in the BP to close out the game while Cubs BP is banged up.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:26 am 
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Both pitchers will have incredibly short leashes. Issue is the Indians have the horses in the BP to close out the game while Cubs BP is banged up.


The difference is that I suspect Francona is planning to pull Tomlin early the way he did on Friday night, regardless of how he looks. With Arrieta it's probably going to depend on what he's doing out there.

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Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?

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Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?


Before the series started Maddon set Arietta as number two rather than Hendricks for some reason.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Both pitchers will have incredibly short leashes. Issue is the Indians have the horses in the BP to close out the game while Cubs BP is banged up.


The difference is that I suspect Francona is planning to pull Tomlin early the way he did on Friday night, regardless of how he looks. With Arrieta it's probably going to depend on what he's doing out there.
I'd say 5 is the most for Tomlin regardless. The Cubs need to get to him for 2 or 3 and let Francona scramble a bit to fill out the rest .

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Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?


Before the series started Maddon set Arietta as number two rather than Hendricks for some reason.



He obviously wanted Hendricks at home where he has been nearly unbeatable.

At this point you have to win both games. Better to keep everyone on normal rest.

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Both pitchers will have incredibly short leashes. Issue is the Indians have the horses in the BP to close out the game while Cubs BP is banged up.


The difference is that I suspect Francona is planning to pull Tomlin early the way he did on Friday night, regardless of how he looks. With Arrieta it's probably going to depend on what he's doing out there.
I'd say 5 is the most for Tomlin regardless. The Cubs need to get to him for 2 or 3 and let Francona scramble a bit to fill out the rest .

I'd be surprised if Tomlin goes more than 3.


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My fear is we already got our 1 good start out of Jake and he'll revert to his usual Lackeyesque stat line tonight . 5IP 3 runs , 3 hits, 3 walks. I did hear where having West behind the plate is advantage Cubs as he doesn't tend to give borderline pitches to the the pitcher and Tonkin lives on the corners more than Jake .

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Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?
Why isn't Lester going thrice?

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Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?
Why isn't Lester going thrice?

Because Theo didn't trade for Miller!!

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badrogue17 wrote:
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Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?
Why isn't Lester going thrice?

Because Theo didn't trade for Miller!!
Well, that probably is true.

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badrogue17 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?
Why isn't Lester going thrice?

Because Theo didn't trade for Miller!!


True

The series would be over if he had traded for Miller.

I'm sure Schwarber will be the direct cause for them winning several more in the future so it is an appropriate tradeoff

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Cubs 5

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Jake is solid, 7 IP 2 runs...Schwarber goes deep, Tomlin gets yanked in the 4th.



Aww Geez...the kiss of death.


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I'm confident in Jake tonight.

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Lester is available today and tomorrow.



I think when you're down to an elimination game, everybody is available.

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I expect Maddon to stay the course until at least the second part of a game 7. He previously said he has a bullpen and they work fine in the way they are used. I would not expect him to put an unrested pitcher in as a gamble.

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good dolphin wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?
Why isn't Lester going thrice?

Because Theo didn't trade for Miller!!


True

The series would be over if he had traded for Miller.

I'm sure Schwarber will be the direct cause for them winning several more in the future so it is an appropriate tradeoff

how does Miller help them hit, exactly? They've scored 0,0, and 2 runs in the losses. This is quite the troll.

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City of Fools wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Dumb question: why isn't Hendricks going tonight?
Why isn't Lester going thrice?

Because Theo didn't trade for Miller!!


True

The series would be over if he had traded for Miller.

I'm sure Schwarber will be the direct cause for them winning several more in the future so it is an appropriate tradeoff

how does Miller help them hit, exactly? They've scored 0,0, and 2 runs in the losses. This is quite the troll.


Also, if the Cubs trade for Miller they would be playing the Red Sox or the Blue Jays right now, not the Indians.


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Also, if the Cubs trade for Miller they would be playing the Red Sox or the Blue Jays right now, not the Indians.
Barring a collapse by the Indians wouldn't that have been better?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Also, if the Cubs trade for Miller they would be playing the Red Sox or the Blue Jays right now, not the Indians.
Barring a collapse by the Indians wouldn't that have been better?


No.

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Rizzo tells us on ESPN 1000 that he'll bat 4th tonight. Schwarber will bat 2nd, Bryant 3. Zobrist is batting 5th.

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Looks like going top heavy and swinging for the fences tonight.

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Also, if the Cubs trade for Miller they would be playing the Red Sox or the Blue Jays right now, not the Indians.
Barring a collapse by the Indians wouldn't that have been better?


No.
Yeah, who wants to play a worse team!

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Maddon sounded like he might hit Schwarber in the 2 hole.

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Maddon sounded like he might hit Schwarber in the 2 hole.


Rizzo confirmed Schwarbs is batting 2nd on ESPN 1000.

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Maddon himself said it on Goff and Spiegs.

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pittmike wrote:
Maddon himself said it on Goff and Spiegs.


They asked if it was possible and he said yes. I didn't think he confirmed it.

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