Yes, but it's all about identifying the right player and projecting how they will do in the future if you acquire them. Hell, in free agency it's easier, as you don't have to try to figure out who is available or not and who might want what you are offering up or not. It's just who do we want amongst the group and what will it cost? He loved the big strikeout totals and the 7 pitches of Darvish, but failed to look at who delivers best in the most important games. Losing 3 early season games (Darvish) and looking bad in 4 of 6 starts is not a crisis. But if he pitches like this in the playoffs (and I fear he very well may) it will be a real problem.

Yes, but it's all about identifying the right player and projecting how they will do in the future if you acquire them. Hell, in free agency it's easier, as you don't have to try to figure out who is available or not and who might want what you are offering up or not. It's just who do we want amongst the group and what will it cost? He loved the big strikeout totals and the 7 pitches of Darvish, but failed to look at who delivers best in the most important games. Losing 3 early season games (Darvish) and looking bad in 4 of 6 starts is not a crisis. But if he pitches like this in the playoffs (and I fear he very well may) it will be a real problem.

What player wss passed on that has been pitching like a #2 or better?

What player wss passed on that has been pitching like a #2 or better?

Theo offered him 120 million over 6 years. I think that is far from insulting. That Theo made it a take it, or leave it offer was perhaps a bit insulting. But the numbers were not insulting.

Theo offered him 120 million over 6 years. I think that is far from insulting. That Theo made it a take it, or leave it offer was perhaps a bit insulting. But the numbers were not insulting.

Huffing paint thinner again? Offers that good should be "take it or leave it" propositions...otherwise it proves that management is willing to let the inmates run the asylum...I would think that as a business owner, you'd appreciate management having a firm hand...I mean it's not the same as you going to Home Depot to hire migrant illegals, but, whatever. You know what I mean.

Huffing paint thinner again? Offers that good should be "take it or leave it" propositions...otherwise it proves that management is willing to let the inmates run the asylum...I would think that as a business owner, you'd appreciate management having a firm hand...I mean it's not the same as you going to Home Depot to hire migrant illegals, but, whatever. You know what I mean.

With a guy that had accomplished as much as Jake had with the Cubs, to say that there was no room to negotiate was a mistake in my opinion. Had Theo really wated him, why not offer 110 million and negotiate up to 120 and then say that is a far as I can go? To just say that this is it, take it or move on, is a bit insulting I think.

They are going to have to call up his caddy, Gimenez from AAA to see if that will help.

Yeah hes never won anything has he?
Idiot.

Minus the two Milwaukee starts, he’s got a 12.21 ERA. It’s weird they signed Gimenez before Darvish, then sent him down to AAA. Darvish has a lot of different pitches. Maybe he and Contreras aren’t on the same page. Make the guy comfortable.

Learn humanity Neanderthal.

Agreed. It worked for Lester.

The Cubs should carry five catchers.

He is only guaranteed 3 years (25 million per) with the Phillies, but has incentives in the contract that if reached extend the contract up to 6 years 135 million. Had the Cubs offered that kind of deal, you get the next couple years to win a championship or two and no real risk, as the deal would be up after 3 years unless he pitches great, in which case you want him to stick around longer.

They are going to have to call up his caddy, Gimenez from AAA to see if that will help.

Was the 6 year offer from the Cubs fully guaranteed? Or at least guaranteed more than 3 years? If so, he took the risk to see if he could do better, and didn't.