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If you think partnering with Sinclair is wrong
It's not just "partnering with Sinclair."

It's everything;
Frank Coztansa wrote:
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-Family member raises bigtime dollars for Trump
-Cash cow has questionable (at best) racial thoughts
-Align with far right wing media group for the team's own network

....B..B..B..But JERRY! The Sox!!
Taking Russell out of it since he really doesn't pertain to this...But when you have all these things happening, and a family member who is an elected Republican official, we are just supposed to assume that baseball is baseball and that the Rickets are not trying to advance any their political agenda thru the Cubs? "But JERRY!" is the only response Cubs fans have?

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks, it's a duck. And the Ricketts and Cubs have quacked MANY times this offseason.

MANY.

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The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?


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The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?

False.

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I’m in business with Sinclair , but it’s not my business .

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The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?

False.


Folding in Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group’s American Sports Network, Stadium was born last summer.

Try again.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
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The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?

False.


Folding in Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group’s American Sports Network, Stadium was born last summer.

Try again.
Your problem is you said the owners of the Sox. Jerry owns roughly 19% of the White Sox.

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So now we are at the point where leasing space in a building is the same thing?

You literally took issue with me saying it was all over the United Center.

I post that they set up their network headquarters at the United Center!!


You should take this as an opportunity to admit you are wrong for the first time ever on the board. It's getting ridiculous.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
If you think partnering with Sinclair is wrong
It's not just "partnering with Sinclair."

It's everything;
Frank Coztansa wrote:
-...
-Family member raises bigtime dollars for Trump
-Cash cow has questionable (at best) racial thoughts
-Align with far right wing media group for the team's own network

....B..B..B..But JERRY! The Sox!!
Taking Russell out of it since he really doesn't pertain to this...But when you have all these things happening, and a family member who is an elected Republican official, we are just supposed to assume that baseball is baseball and that the Rickets are not trying to advance any their political agenda thru the Cubs? "But JERRY!" is the only response Cubs fans have?

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks, it's a duck. And the Ricketts and Cubs have quacked MANY times this offseason.

MANY.

So you have no issue with Sinclair. That's odd considering all your posts.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?

False.


Folding in Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group’s American Sports Network, Stadium was born last summer.

Try again.
Your problem is you said the owners of the Sox. Jerry owns roughly 19% of the White Sox.

This is as close as Rick can get to admitting he is wrong.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
If you think partnering with Sinclair is wrong
It's not just "partnering with Sinclair."

It's everything;
Frank Coztansa wrote:
-...
-Family member raises bigtime dollars for Trump
-Cash cow has questionable (at best) racial thoughts
-Align with far right wing media group for the team's own network

....B..B..B..But JERRY! The Sox!!
Taking Russell out of it since he really doesn't pertain to this...But when you have all these things happening, and a family member who is an elected Republican official, we are just supposed to assume that baseball is baseball and that the Rickets are not trying to advance any their political agenda thru the Cubs? "But JERRY!" is the only response Cubs fans have?

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks, it's a duck. And the Ricketts and Cubs have quacked MANY times this offseason.

MANY.

So you have no issue with Sinclair. That's odd considering all your posts.
Whats odd is you ignoring all the valid points I made in this post. But since it doesn't fit your agenda, I can see why you would do that.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?

False.


Folding in Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group’s American Sports Network, Stadium was born last summer.

Try again.
Your problem is you said the owners of the Sox. Jerry owns roughly 19% of the White Sox.


So he is a White Sox owner?


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
If you think partnering with Sinclair is wrong
It's not just "partnering with Sinclair."

It's everything;
Frank Coztansa wrote:
-...
-Family member raises bigtime dollars for Trump
-Cash cow has questionable (at best) racial thoughts
-Align with far right wing media group for the team's own network

....B..B..B..But JERRY! The Sox!!
Taking Russell out of it since he really doesn't pertain to this...But when you have all these things happening, and a family member who is an elected Republican official, we are just supposed to assume that baseball is baseball and that the Rickets are not trying to advance any their political agenda thru the Cubs? "But JERRY!" is the only response Cubs fans have?

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks, it's a duck. And the Ricketts and Cubs have quacked MANY times this offseason.

MANY.

So you have no issue with Sinclair. That's odd considering all your posts.
Whats odd is you ignoring all the valid points I made in this post. But since it doesn't fit your agenda, I can see why you would do that.

None of those are valid to the Sinclair discussion. That is the one were having. Also, you assume that I would take issue with pushing Trump or a right wing agenda. I've never said or posted anything indicating that.

I understand why you are going out of your way to avoid this but you either think partnering with Sinclair is bad or you dont. Pick one and we'll go from there.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:

So now we are at the point where leasing space in a building is the same thing?

You literally took issue with me saying it was all over the United Center.

I post that they set up their network headquarters at the United Center!!


You should take this as an opportunity to admit you are wrong for the first time ever on the board. It's getting ridiculous.
You keep on moving the goalposts. Now, it's leasing space in an office building in the United Center.

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RPB this discussion would be a lot smoother if you would just admit the obvious already (that as a Cub fan you are essentially no different than Richard Spencer)

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rogers park bryan wrote:
None of those are valid to the Sinclair discussion.
:lol: Holy cow...

Frank Coztansa wrote:
It's not just "partnering with Sinclair."

It's everything;
There is literally nothing else I can say. You either get it or you don't.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The owners of the Cubs and Sox are partners with Sinclair. True or False?

False.


Folding in Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group’s American Sports Network, Stadium was born last summer.

Try again.
Your problem is you said the owners of the Sox. Jerry owns roughly 19% of the White Sox.


So he is a White Sox owner?
He is one of them. Up to 81% of White Sox ownership is not involved in Stadium. Do you see the major difference here?

I'm sure much of that 81% owns or invests in other businesses too. Are those businesses all partners with the Sox? Are all the things the Ricketts family also invest in also partners with the Cubs?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:

So now we are at the point where leasing space in a building is the same thing?

You literally took issue with me saying it was all over the United Center.

I post that they set up their network headquarters at the United Center!!


You should take this as an opportunity to admit you are wrong for the first time ever on the board. It's getting ridiculous.
You keep on moving the goalposts. Now, it's leasing space in an office building in the United Center.

Yes, having headquarters in the united center would qualify as being at the united center

I believe they will be shown on all the tv's too, but Im not sure if it's ALL the TVS all the time.


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I think Rick settled it.

Sox fans = 1/5th Nazi
Cub fans = FULL Nazi

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A Cubs/Sox debate that's completely stupid, what are the odds?


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Thread summary

good dolphin: Cubs are partnering with Sinclair

Sox fan: that's disgusting

Cub fan: So are the Sox

Sox fan: That's different

Cub Fan: Why?

Sox fan: Because we like the Sox!


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:

So now we are at the point where leasing space in a building is the same thing?

You literally took issue with me saying it was all over the United Center.

I post that they set up their network headquarters at the United Center!!


You should take this as an opportunity to admit you are wrong for the first time ever on the board. It's getting ridiculous.
You keep on moving the goalposts. Now, it's leasing space in an office building in the United Center.

Yes, having headquarters in the united center would qualify as being at the united center

I believe they will be shown on all the tv's too, but Im not sure if it's ALL the TVS all the time.

Showing highlights on the televisions in the stadium = Covering every game and splitting the profits and broadcasting it nationwide. Got it.

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Yeah, it'll be hard to spin this.
Roughly seven hours later, the spinning in this thread has been quite amazing.

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good dolphin: Cubs are partnering with Sinclair

Sox fan: that's disgusting

Cub fan: So are the Sox

Sox fan: That's different

Cub Fan: Why?

Sox fan: Because we like the Sox!

You're inexplicably getting worse at these as you go

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good dolphin: Cubs are partnering with Sinclair

Sox fan: that's disgusting

Cub fan: So are the Sox

Sox fan: That's different

Cub Fan: Why?

Sox fan: Because we like the Sox!
Are you saying that the partnerships aren't different? Why are you unwilling to even acknowledge that Sinclair and the Cubs are far more connected than the White Sox and Sinclair are?

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In Stadium, Jerry Reinsdorf building something else for future — to view today
Phil Rosenthal Phil RosenthalContact Reporter
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Jerry Reinsdorf has built a new Stadium in Chicago.

Its capacity is unknown, even to him.

“The potential is unlimited, I think,” said Reinsdorf, chairman of the Bulls and White Sox. “I don’t know how fast it will grow, but I really think we have a great group of partners and there’s so much synergy here.”

Stadium is a multi-platform national sports channel. It is 10 months old, employs 120 or so people on Chicago’s West Side and is out to reach sports fans however — and wherever — it can.

Stadium already can be found several places online, including watchstadium.com as well as Facebook, Twitter and Twitch. Depending on where one lives, it is also available on over-the-air TV and/or cable. In some locales, it’s seen at gas pumps, bus stops and in elevators.

The reach of its game coverage and other programming is poised to grow as it aligns with more broadcast stations and cuts deals with more online platforms.

It’s a matter of time before Stadium offers audio content via podcasts and/or satellite radio. So coming across its live sports, studio shows, interview programs, vintage content or clips at some point is likely; many people may already have.

Those who attend a Sox game at Guaranteed Rate Field will find Stadium presenting baseball highlights on the video board in center field.

That basketball game in November when Alabama had to finish against Minnesota with only three players because of ejections, fouls and an injury? The Crimson Tide’s 89-84 loss to the Gophers was on Stadium.

Stadium carries basketball and football, along with lacrosse, wrestling, hockey, soccer, volleyball, water polo and even offbeat stuff such as Ultimate on occasion. It is positioning itself to appeal to the underserved with its coverage by making inroads into 21st century media with its multiple platforms and potential revenue streams.

“Brooks Boyer, who’s our marketing guy, came to me a few years ago and told me he had this friend, Jason Coyle, who had an idea,” Reinsdorf recalled, tracing the roots of Stadium to the launch of Silver Chalice, the Sox’s forward-thinking digital media venture.

“The idea was obviously digital sports, that there was nobody in the field. So we got involved and it just grew.”

The foundation of Stadium was Silver Chalice’s 2014 launch of 120 Sports, a digital sports media outlet headquartered at Oprah Winfrey’s Harpo Studios campus, then Campus Insiders, which mined the passion for college athletics.

Folding in Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group’s American Sports Network, Stadium was born last summer. Other partners include Major League Baseball, the NHL and the PGA Tour.

The move of Stadium a few blocks from the Harpo compound to the building on the east end of the new United Center atrium came earlier this year. But Stadium already was planted firmly in the nation’s middle in contrast to its would-be sports media rivals — Fox Sports 1 based on the West Coast, ESPN in the East — and not just geographically.

“We’re trying to counter-program the major networks with news and analysis,” said Coyle, Stadium’s CEO. “We feel the other networks are very similar in terms of their look, their approach, their story selection.

“We’re actually not big into opinionists and hot takes; we’re going with insiders. We go with information. We go with news. We like to go with local sources, put them on camera, hear what’s actually happening. … Then if there’s emotion, it’s because it’s actually impacting that market, those teams and people there, rather than manufactured outrage from one of the coasts.”

Right now, Stadium is available in parts of the Chicago area as a secondary digital TV channel over the air via suburban WRJK. But if Sinclair completes its deal for control of Tribune Broadcasting, which includes WGN-9 among its assets, Stadium’s local availability is expected to get a major upgrade.

“They’re already the largest owner of TV stations, and not only can they carry our stuff on a linear basis, they can promote it,” Reinsdorf said of Sinclair.

Anyone coming to the United Center in recent months for a game or concert or to buy souvenirs may have noticed Stadium’s ground-floor studio, which opens out into the atrium with the Michael Jordan statue.

“I love being in the center of the national sports scene,” Coyle said. “And we’re the only ones immersed in a live venue, where we have actual fans going to and from events, the energy and excitement of people coming in and out of the United Center hundreds of times a year.”

Said Reinsdorf: “That location is going to help the programming because the interview potential is terrific. We have all these basketball and hockey teams coming through and it’s easy to get guys to just walk over, so that helps. We can develop some nice programming that way.”

More than just speak with athletes and to fans, Stadium wants to avail itself of the interactivity many of its platforms offer. That makes it possible for viewers to alert the on-site crew to the botched pronunciation of a player’s name or have an announcer own his premature dismissal of a losing team just before it rallies.

It also can mean a proud dad serving in the army overseas gaining momentum for #interviewcheerleadersidney during a Wyoming-Texas State football telecast on Facebook. The result: Stadium’s sideline reporter talked to the man’s daughter during breaks in the action — and the emotion welled up.

As it grows accustomed to being a 24/7 outlet, Stadium intends to produce and present occasional documentaries. Among them this fall will be “Pooh,” an inside look at the arc of former Bulls star Derrick Rose’s career that promises behind-the-scenes video shot over the years by those around him that Rose and his agent, B.J. Armstrong, amassed and turned over to producers at the channel.

Without question, the type of content is all important.

What makes Stadium a media player to watch, however, is the many ways it can be seen, from the mobile phone in one’s hand to a big-screen plasma at home, with or without ads, with or without running fan commentary, live or not. There’s even a premium subscription add-on available through some platforms.

“We can go direct to the consumer or we can go through all these other online sites and have all these live games,” Reinsdorf said. “So we have content we can shoot through any number of outlets.”

Like Reinsdorf’s Bulls and White Sox, his Stadium is being built for the future.

“I think it’s going to be a powerhouse,” he said.


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Showing highlights on the televisions in the stadium = Covering every game and splitting the profits and broadcasting it nationwide. Got it.

This may be your worst thread ever. It just keeps getting worse.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
Yeah, it'll be hard to spin this.
Roughly seven hours later, the spinning in this thread has been quite amazing.

The part where you realized Jerry was also partnered with Sinclair was a highlight. I was happy to bring that to your attention.

Let me know if you need any other info on White Sox business.


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good dolphin: Cubs are partnering with Sinclair

Sox fan: that's disgusting

Cub fan: So are the Sox

Sox fan: That's different

Cub Fan: Why?

Sox fan: Because we like the Sox!
Are you saying that the partnerships aren't different? Why are you unwilling to even acknowledge that Sinclair and the Cubs are far more connected than the White Sox and Sinclair are?

"More connected" :lol:

Is that a technical term?

The White Sox owner is a partner with Sinclair on a sports network and a big proponent of what they bring to the table as a partner.

The Cubs games will be on a Sinclair network and they also seem to be a big proponent of Sinclair as a partner.


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This may be your worst thread ever. It just keeps getting worse.
I had to double check that JLN wasn't doing this response.

How about this question. Are the Cubs and the Orlando Magic partnered? The DeVos family has a minority ownership stake in the Cubs. It may not be 19% but it certainly is a good portion. Does that link make them partners?

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good dolphin: Cubs are partnering with Sinclair

Sox fan: that's disgusting

Cub fan: So are the Sox

Sox fan: That's different

Cub Fan: Why?

Sox fan: Because we like the Sox!
Are you saying that the partnerships aren't different? Why are you unwilling to even acknowledge that Sinclair and the Cubs are far more connected than the White Sox and Sinclair are?

"More connected" :lol:

Is that a technical term?

The White Sox owner is a partner with Sinclair on a sports network and a big proponent of what they bring to the table as a partner.

The Cubs games will be on a Sinclair network and also seem to be a big proponent of Sinclair as a partner.

Do you not understand the concept of different levels of connection between organizations?

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