After listening to Theo on the Score today it definitely sounds like everything is on the table as far as changes go. He said standing pat was not an option this year and there will be moves made.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Here's all I'll say. If I accept everything Cub fans said about Maddon when he was hired, there is ZERO doubt the Cubs will be downgrading at manager when he leaves. And if the stuff you said when he was hired isn't true, why not just shut the fuck up when it comes to managers?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Now we both know that is not going to happen.

The only time fans around here get quiet is when they predict a player to be an elite hitter and then they cannot hit the ball to save their lives

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Palka will be fine.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Not true. IMU has been swinging and missing on his baseball thoughts more than Palka at the plate, yet has been as vocal as ever.

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There are always exceptions Frank

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Here's all I'll say. Theo better hire a catcher if he fires the catcher.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

Fans strongly support Joe still. Theo most know if he fires Joe there will be blowback.

It will be interesting if Joe goes in full panic mode.

I don't think that will happen. Joe has made his money and knows someone will hire him when he leaves the Cubs. No need for him to panic.

I think this pretty much nails it. The new manager of choice is either a front office guy that has come downstairs to manage, or someone who is just going to be an errand boy for the front office. Therefore, I don't think they're likely to hire Ross if they fire Maddon. Epstein is just going to find someone who will do everything Epstein wants to do, exactly when Epstein wants it done. I'm not a Cubs fan but put me down as Nay for firing Maddon.

This team needs Billy Martin

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I'd say there is a 60% chance they down grade, Maddon got alot out of this crew. Most successful decade in Cubs history. I trust Epstein to hire a competent replacement and learn from his mistakes.

Lemaheiu, Lastella, Darvish, Heyward, Jackson, Descalso, Morrow, Quintana, Arrietta, Schwarber, Happ, Verlander, Machado etc

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Never happen, he's a cool n calm MFer, too cool n calm IMO. This team needs a kick in the ass.

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Yeah there is no concern whatsoever that Maddon goes into panic mode.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Genius hires a manager then waves of talent fizzle out then streams of revenue withheld. Gorilla suit is ready and now we only wait for the Bernsie to turn back into a Sox licker.

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Elections have consequences.

Hire Ozzie. Closest thing you’ll get to Billy today.

But the players this generation may be too sensitive and start crying on the field when Ozzie rips them a new one for not legging out a double

They would probably beat off and spunk all over him instead. Wasted energy.

Umm. He is dead.

He was being figurative

Best manager not managing is none other than....Jim Riggleman. I would do it right now. Why not? Feel free to respond with why not.

Blow a fig burrito

If they don't intend to bring him back, fire him now. It might just light a desperately needed fire under this team and given the team's failure to play to a level expected of them the past 2 season's, I can't see how there would be tremendous opposition to the move. This team is playing worse on defense, running the bases poorly and just making too many errors of all kinds. time for a new voice. Not Loretta either. A new voice like Girardi or perhaps an old one that people listened to like David Ross.

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Go Cubs!!!!

I'd like to see core players like Bryant be where he should be, 3rd base. Move Bote all over the place. Quit jacking with the batting order constantly. Don't overuse the bullpen using 8 pitchers in low scoring, 9 inning games. Let healthy starters go 120 pitches. Don't put scrapheap retreads pitchers in crucial situations because the staff is overused. Don't plug in guys like Descalso in the starting lineup when he's struggling big time. Stop breaking hot batting streaks because data says so. It's been a wild ride with Joe at the helm. I'm sure Theo calls a lot of the stategical moves too. Joe takes a lot of the enjoyment out of a great game with his poor in-game decisions, stubbornness, and unwillingness to address issues in a upfront manner, but be a bs artist. If he survives to still manage the rest of the year, he still has a good group, even with Theo's blunders, and will be under a microscope all year.

I think you received some insight into how Joe will react from the time he was questioned about his WS moves.

Joe Cool certainly wasn't very cool as spring training 2017 started.

I also am of the opinion that Joe dying his hair was in reaction to the lack of security he felt in his job.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

He should have been removed this off season under your reasoning (with which I agree, by the way). However, I don't think he should be fired mid season unless there is an indication he lost the clubhouse. I don't think there is. I also don't think this team will change because of a manager move. I don't think they are average because of lack of effort. I think they are average because, as PECOTA predicted before the season, they are average in key areas.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

If Joe survives, and in the playoff hunt down the stretch, it will fascinating. He has a history of panic mode in post season, as mentioned. Or does he man up, knowing it's too late in the season say late August and say fuck Theo, I'm doing everything my way ala Buddy Ryan vs Ditka?

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

You gotta love his ballsiness. He was that close to being the biggest goat in the history of Chicago sports if his players didn't bale him out of his game 7 mismanaging. Barry Rozner crucified him on the score that night driving home.

You were 100 percent full of shit.

Getting rid of Maddon would be a huge mistake. I wish their was a robot JORR poster.

Someone make a bot.