This attempt at a gotcha is laughable.

Ill help you get to your non point.

Cub fan: Yes, some veteran players who wanted to win with the Cubs or love Wrigley have reportedly taken less

Rick: So how do you know Bryant wouldnt have taken less?

Cub fan: Because he's an MVP type represented by Scott Boras who could literally end up getting the largest contract in pro sports and it will be his first time as an unrestricted free agent. It's entirely unreasonable to expect that type of player to take less than he's worth

Rick: So what, Boras is just an employee and has no control over his players?

Cub fan: Me and everyone else who has followed baseball and Boras would tell you that is laughable

Rick: No it's not!

Cub fan: Ok





Fin

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

The standard end to a rpb baseball argument.

What? No it isn't. They work for the player. The player still makes the decisions. This is just you trying to explain a way a decision made by Kris Bryant using the standard "That Boras guy!" excuse.

It's still hilarious you think that Boras controls Bryant. I understand it probably makes you feel better to blame Boras for stuff but Bryant could fire Boras tomorrow if Boras told him he had to do anything he didn't want.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Bryant will do whatever is best for him financially. No one gives a fuck that a team did what was in their best interest to hold him as long as possible, as though that was somehow immoral. That's business. Any player worth their salt will tell you that.

Wow, you guys are getting really personal.

Bryant filed a grievance over it. Not worth his salt?

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

I'm not a huge Bryant fan.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Bryant will do whatever is best for him financially. No one gives a fuck that a team did what was in their best interest to hold him as long as possible, as though that was somehow immoral. That's business. Any player worth their salt will tell you that.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/05/how-stephen-strasburgs-175-million-extension-disproves-a-long-held-belief-about-scott-boras

It's a simple question. If other players have taken less money, including guys with mega deals like Heyward, then it could easily be a factor for Bryant. Maybe it won't be and he just wants the biggest contract possible.

Im sorry that you dont like when I point out your ignorance. I realize you believe you are smart enough to google a few things and argue about any topic intelligently but you aren't with baseball. You often show your ignorance to things everyone who follows baseball understands.

You have a hard time admitting not being an expert or even fully understanding topics.

This is honestly laughable and the part that really shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

Don King "worked" for Mike Tyson, too. Who do you think made the calls there?

Financial advisers work for players, too. Who do you think makes the decisions there?

He’ll be lucky to have the career of Eloy Jimenez

Les Grobstein's huge hog is proof that God has a sense of humor, isn't it?

How many players have fired Boras as an agent ?

This is going to follow you around the board for years. I honestly cant believe you are this naive. Im not sure if you actually believe it or are just saying it to help your very weak argument.

There are many ways to argue with someone and that is certainly one of the worst.

Don King was a boxing promoter. He was more comparable to an owner than an agent

The player? I mean, adviser is literally in the job description. They advise them on what they should do and while you should trust them to be correct it is still your decision what is done with your money.

Please do. Please make a meme out of me saying that the player is the one making the decisions rather than the agent. Everyone is going to laugh so hard at me for that.

Not even close.

I have no words for how ridiculous the bolded part is.


The second part you seem to admit without admitting who is making the decisions.

Are we all assuming Kris naturally snaps back into .300/30/100 form? He hasn't done it for a couple'a years now, no matter the reason/s. Maybe he'll never be the same again after getting hit in the head in Colorado? (SEE: Heyward, Fucking)

This is just standard purposely obtuse Rick.

Like I said, Don King worked for Tyson. Like Minnoka Meatball said (who is on your side on this) Boras definitely controls his players.

Financial advisors make the decisions.

Have you not heard stories of players losing all their money due to shady investments? Who do you think made those calls? The players?

Fantastic heavyweight fight so far this morning. Who will be left standing, Rick or Bryan?

Don King did not negotiate on behalf of Mike Tyson. Don King put on fights and negotiated AGAINST Mike Tyson on how much he would make for the fight.

Yes. The ultimate decision for those investments lay with the players. The players that get in trouble are the ones who ignore those decisions and sign off on just about anything.

False. Don King is a scumbag and screwed him but he was SUPPOSED to be Tyson's rep and negotiate in his best interests. (in addition to being a promoter)

Former undisputed World Heavyweight Boxing Champion Mike Tyson has described King, his former manager, as "ruthless, "deplorable" and "greedy." In 1998, Tyson sued King for $100 million, alleging that the boxing promoter had cheated him out of millions over more than a decade. The lawsuit was later settled out of court with Tyson receiving $14 million.

Oh, so those players do exist? So players do sometime just sign off on whatever the expert (their employee) says?

Now, we're making progress.

So, those players do exist. Im saying Bryant (pretty much all of Boras clients) is one of them.

Don King was at times his manager, but he was always a promoter putting on the fights that Tyson fought in. It's not a perfect comparison because of that but he was the one in control of the fights.

I asked this before. If Don King was negotiating for Mike Tyson, who was Don King negotiating against?
There are dumb players who ignore the financial decisions made in their name. That doesn't mean that those decisions aren't ultimately their responsibility. Let's say the financial adviser ended up not paying taxes. Does the government say "It's ok you didn't pay those taxes because you had someone else do it and they didn't"?

There are certainly cases where the agent calls the shots even thought technically he is the employee.

I'm not a huge Bryant fan, but that is driven by the union. He'd be an idiot to let it factor into his future financial decisions.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

He's property thinking like I would, you did me no favors and made a business decision to fuck me.. stick that home town discount up your (((ass)))

This would undoubtedly be a sign of a stupid player though. Correct?