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Juiced

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:13 am

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timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:22 am

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312player wrote:

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Here's all I'll say. If I accept everything Cub fans said about Maddon when he was hired, there is ZERO doubt the Cubs will be downgrading at manager when he leaves. And if the stuff you said when he was hired isn't true, why not just shut the fuck up when it comes to managers?

I'd say there is a 60% chance they down grade, Maddon got alot out of this crew. Most successful decade in Cubs history. I trust Epstein to hire a competent replacement and learn from his mistakes.

Lemaheiu, Lastella, Darvish, Heyward, Jackson, Descalso, Morrow, Quintana, Arrietta, Schwarber, Happ, Verlander, Machado etc

That's a lot of learning

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Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:37 am

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Indeed

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:38 am

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Juiced wrote:

timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

Great managers get it done in four games like real men.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:40 am

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Under Maddon the club has done real well in the second half, if he doesn't get this team hot quickly..fire his ass by late August.

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Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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IMU

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:51 am

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What is the mistake regarding Machado?

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312player

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:07 am

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Should have signed him, put him at 3rd and KB in left and trade Schwarber.

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Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:23 am

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312player wrote:

Should have signed him, put him at 3rd and KB in left and trade Schwarber.

Machado has been disappointing for the Padres.

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Nardi

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:14 am

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IMU wrote:

312player wrote:

Should have signed him, put him at 3rd and KB in left and trade Schwarber.

Machado has been disappointing for the Padres.

Maybe I'm blind but he's at his career averages, which are pretty good.

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312player

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:11 pm

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Yeah, most guys press too much the first year of a multi year deal and he'll end up with 35-40 homers, 115 ish rbi.. 275 BA and .350 obp in the best pitchers park in Mlb.

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Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:21 pm

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2.1 WAR
20 HR
58 RBI
.266 BA, .339 OBP

I'd gladly take that

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Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:23 pm

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Juiced wrote:

timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

Stop yourself. Maddon's move in that series were just awful. Like I said in an earlier post, I would have cheered if he was fired in the middle of game 7.

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Juiced

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:31 pm

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Douchebag wrote:

Juiced wrote:

timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

Stop yourself. Maddon's move in that series were just awful. Like I said in an earlier post, I would have cheered if he was fired in the middle of game 7.

I agree he seemed to let the pressure exceed the pleasure of being in the World Series but he still got them their and won despite his questionable moves.

I rather have them win it with a manager who made a couple bad moves then lose it with a manager that did everything correctly. Just can't justify the firing of the first Cubs manager in over a century who wins consistently. His overall success should be the ultimate factor in his value as a manager.

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Nardi

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:36 pm

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Juiced wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

Juiced wrote:

timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

Stop yourself. Maddon's move in that series were just awful. Like I said in an earlier post, I would have cheered if he was fired in the middle of game 7.

He runs bullpens into the ground. Most managers do. Counsell was just the latest large profile of this practice.

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IMU

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:43 pm

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wdelaney72 wrote:

2.1 WAR
20 HR
58 RBI
.266 BA, .339 OBP

I'd gladly take that

versus...

1.4 WAR
14 HR
37 RBI
.266 BA, .355 OBP

But you're all bitching that person is vastly overpaid and sucks, and yet Machado is making $10M more per season.

Put Heyward in the 3 spot like Machado is and give him an actual leadoff hitter and you'll see comparable RBI as well.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:04 pm

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Teams in first place at the break. They’re not firing him.

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Juiced

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:59 pm

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Nardi wrote:

Juiced wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

Juiced wrote:

timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

Stop yourself. Maddon's move in that series were just awful. Like I said in an earlier post, I would have cheered if he was fired in the middle of game 7.

He runs bullpens into the ground. Most managers do. Counsell was just the latest large profile of this practice.

Terry Francona made it to the World Series because he "ran his bullpen into the ground." Allen and Miller are shit because of it. Yet MANY would say he out managed Maddon in 2016. That is not a reason to fire him.

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W_Z

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:16 pm

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because starters barely last 6 innings anymore, everyone's going to run bullpens into the ground eventually.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:28 pm

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IMU wrote:

wdelaney72 wrote:

2.1 WAR
20 HR
58 RBI
.266 BA, .339 OBP

I'd gladly take that

I've seen Heyward all over the lineup, he was never a run producer. I've never seen him go deep in Petco or Sean Fran either.

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:02 pm

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Shortstop is far more vital than Right Field. Try comparing apples to apples, IMU.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Fire Maddon at All-Star Break ?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:11 pm

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Juiced wrote:

Nardi wrote:

Juiced wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

Juiced wrote:

timmyholton wrote:

if cubs had lost game 7 would he have been Grady little'd

When was the last time a Cubs manager was in a position to win game 7 of the World Series

/end thread.

Stop yourself. Maddon's move in that series were just awful. Like I said in an earlier post, I would have cheered if he was fired in the middle of game 7.

He runs bullpens into the ground. Most managers do. Counsell was just the latest large profile of this practice.

Agree wholeheartedly. Maddon's not the first nor will he be the last. Bullpens are baseball's version of "sweatshops"

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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:24 pm

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best 2nd half record in the major leagues since hes been cubs manager. by a large margin.

this thread is AIDS

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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:24 pm

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312player wrote:

IMU wrote:

wdelaney72 wrote:

2.1 WAR
20 HR
58 RBI
.266 BA, .339 OBP

I'd gladly take that

I've seen Heyward all over the lineup, he was never a run producer. I've never seen him go deep in Petco or Sean Fran either.

312 nails it. Heyward rarely produces let alone in a particular park.

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