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Rather than having it spread out in 9 different threads and since Theo, Jed , Maddon and Ronnie Woo Woo obviously don’t know what they’re doing let’s leave it to the sage collective wisdom of the CFMB to fix this team. Your suggestions here .

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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1. Fire Chilli Davis
2. Get a real leadoff hitter
3. Get rid of pimpstrut/wifebeater/impregnator
4. Trade 2/3 of Happ-Almora-Schwarber
5. Hire the best catching coach available to make contreras reach his potential.
6. Get Harper
7. Get a starting 2b (maybe find a way to dump Schwarber off to Seattle for Segura) Then he and Javy and battle for SS/2b)
8.Re-enforce the bullpen.
9. Threaten to fire whomever hired Chilli Davis
10. Fire the head athletic trainer and strength coach (one couldn't figure out what was wrong with Darvish and the other is a fat/drunk slob who wears a speedo to team stretch because somehow that is still hilarious)

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Isn't this where Theo jumps ship?

I think he is good at building a team, and the Cubs got a WS out of it. But he seems to be terrible at handing out contracts. I predict, within the next 3yrs young Theo moves on.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Trade Schwarber/Happ to KC for Whit Merrifield, 2B. This solves the leadoff spot, moves Baez to SS and allows them to move Russell.
Sign a veteran starter to fill the 4/5 spot (Anibal Sanchez, Jeremy Hellickson)
Bring in a Cody Allen or Jake Diekman on a short-term deal
Sign either Machado or Harper- Machado moves KB to LF, Harper provides that second lefty power hitter and covers for Almora/Heyward lack of power
Focus on more contact than swinging for the fences

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I think Machado is the first priority. They have to non-tender Russell, and getting Machado means that three of 2S3L are locked up with him, Baez, and Bryant.

Second, you need to get Bryant under the knife this week and ready to return at full strength by May 1. Fuck April, he's not going to hit for any kind of power when it's cold and he's still rehabbing, and Zobrist can stand there for a month.

Third, Schwarber, Happ, Almora is two guys too many. Trade them for whatever prospects you can get. Sign a RH platoon 4th OF masher type to play against lefties, and bring back Jon Jay to be the backup CF.

Fourth, decide if you can be in the market for Realmuto.

Fifth, work something out with Hamels if you have any money left.

The pitching staff is not the problem. Scoring 1 run or less as many times as the motherfucking Orioles is the problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I think Machado is the first priority. They have to non-tender Russell, and getting Machado means that three of 2S3L are locked up with him, Baez, and Bryant.

Second, you need to get Bryant under the knife this week and ready to return at full strength by May 1. Fuck April, he's not going to hit for any kind of power when it's cold and he's still rehabbing, and Zobrist can stand there for a month.

Third, Schwarber, Happ, Almora is two guys too many. Trade them for whatever prospects you can get. Sign a RH platoon 4th OF masher type to play against lefties, and bring back Jon Jay to be the backup CF.

Fourth, decide if you can be in the market for Realmuto.

Fifth, work something out with Hamels if you have any money left.

The pitching staff is not the problem. Scoring 1 run or less as many times as the motherfucking Orioles is the problem.


McCutcheon, Marwin Gonzalez, Adam Jones, and Pollock are the only RH who have power

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Trade Q for Eloy and Cease. The Cubs could use his bat


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Schwarber should be traded...for pitching. Probably won't get much. Maybe a solid bullpen arm. I don't see how they trade him into a great leadoff hitter.

Russell is likely gone, along with his weak ass bat. My infatuation with his potential has waned.

Keep Happ as the Zobrist super sub replacement.

Leave Almora alone in CF

Fix whatever is broken on KB

Catcher is fine

Get Morrow healthy

Reshuffle some arms

Machado or Harper

Change hitting coach

Push Joe away from HR or nuthin

This team can hit, they've proven. The approach also leads to extended slumps that can obviously spread thru the entire team.

Get healthy, make a few tweaks. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. They win 100+ next season.

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Would KB, Schwarbs, Happ and Strop be enough to get Trout?

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Morrow can not be counted on to be healthy. Better get another closer.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Get Bryant healthy. Problems solved.

There really is nothing else they need.

That is, of course, if you don't expect a regression from Baez, which is likely to happen if he plays a full year at SS.

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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1. Pick up Hamels option
2. Trade or cut Russell (or just demote him to AAA for the year).
3. Schwarber/Happ should be traded for something. Can't have two guys who basically do the same thing -- hit for power and suck at D. I would rather have both of them gone.
4. Assuming the above happens, try to pick up either Machado or Harper.
5. New coaching staff. I don't hate Maddon as much as everyone else, but the Cubs need something to really shake things up. Too much talent to play like they did down the stretch.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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good dolphin wrote:
Get Bryant healthy. Problems solved.

There really is nothing else they need.

That is, of course, if you don't expect a regression from Baez, which is likely to happen if he plays a full year at SS.


I dunno, right now, the Cubs have exactly 3 starting pitchers that I'd classify as "dependable" for 2019.

The rotation was a mess this year, and Darvish appears to be weak mentally and physically, the front office has some hard calls to make on what the rotation is going to look like in 2019.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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FrankDrebin wrote:
Focus on more contact than swinging for the fences

THAT is exactly what Chili Davis coached this year. It simply does not fit these players. The high OBP / patient approach with a lot of pop was perfect. Mallee got the most of these hitters.

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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IMU wrote:
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Focus on more contact than swinging for the fences

THAT is exactly what Chili Davis coached this year. It simply does not fit these players. The high OBP / patient approach with a lot of pop was perfect. Mallee got the most of these hitters.


Except last year they sucked, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Didn't they lead the NL in team batting average?

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
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FrankDrebin wrote:
Focus on more contact than swinging for the fences

THAT is exactly what Chili Davis coached this year. It simply does not fit these players. The high OBP / patient approach with a lot of pop was perfect. Mallee got the most of these hitters.


Except last year they sucked, too.

This is not true.

Last year the Cubs were 4th in MLB (2nd in NL) in runs and 6th in MLB (3rd in NL) in OPS. 822 runs and .775 OPS. They actually had more runs and a higher OPS in 2017 than in 2016.

In 2018, both numbers plunged. 761 runs, which was 9th in MLB (4th in NL) and at .744 OPS were 10th in MLB (5th in NL). Their BA was only ever so slightly higher in 2018 than 2016-17. They were 13th in SLG this season.

Only Baez and Zobrist played better than their previous years, and with Zobrist that is likely because he was getting the additional rest is old body needs.

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Didn't they lead the NL in team batting average?

They had higher batting averages and less homeruns. Guess what the result was?


Some times those Sabr nerds know what they're talking about!


I dont know if this is a Chili davis effect or not, but here are the HR totals from 2017 and 18

Rizzo- 32-25
Bryant 29-13
Schwarber 30-26
Contreras 21-10
Heyward 13-8
Zobrist 12-9

At the same time, Rizzo, Schwarber, Heyward, Baez and Zobrist all had better batting averages in 2018


As crazy as it sounds, the problem is they stopped trying to hit bombs and worked too much on contact. It was a good move for Baez but really no one else.

And I cant even blame them for the idea since it seems like October baseball requires guys to make contact. But man that shit backfired big time.


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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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Too many sluggers,but where is the stolen base guys?

For most teams today,the answer is "stuck in the 1980's."


When I was growing up,there were a bunch of guys stealing 30-120 stolen bases every year. I wonder how many MLB players had more than 30 this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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In order of priority...1-3 are required
1. Get Bryant healthy.
2. Get a closer.
3. New manager and coaching staff.
4. Bench coach or backup catcher to help Contreras.
5. Cut bait on Schwarber and Russell....Theo missed the bus on selling high with these two.

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fire Davis put Heyward in his place,fix two problems

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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McCutcheon, Marwin Gonzalez, Adam Jones, and Pollock are the only RH who have power
I'm biased because Cutch is one of my favorite non-Cub players. But i'd want him or Adam Jones on a 2-year deal without a no-trade clause. I think Cutch, Zobrist, LaStella, Caratini would make a good bench. I'd be fine with adding Bote to PH against pure fastball relievers if they could go with only 7 relievers, but I don't want him ever hitting against the other team's starting pitcher.

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1. Rent out a petting zoo.
2. Throw a animal themed onesie party at petting zoo.
3. Have Joe order enough wine to close a Binnys.
4. Invite Cheryl Scott and a sexy mime.
5. Have sexy mime perform an erotic routine with Cheryl Scott.
6. Team bonding gangbang of mime and Cheryl (Addison Russell will be forced to wear two condoms).
7.???
8. Profit

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 Post subject: Re: Fix the Cubs
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1. Don't trade Contreras. He'll be better next year.

2. Start Almora in CF.

3. Trade Schwarber. His value was never higher than at the start of the 2017 season but I think he showed enough defensively in the outfield this year for some NL teams to be interested and help raise the price a bit. Are the Phillies looking for another corner outfielder to pair with Hoskins? Miami's outfielders suck. Maybe Jeter wants a "young veteran" presence? Schwarber would have a lot of fun hitting at Chase Field. Jon Jay is walking and Souza blows.

4. Give Happ another year. It'd be great if he could work on not striking out so fucking much. I'd be cool with dealing him and Schwarber together if it gets you back something substantial.

5. Sign Harper. His OBP is ridiculous, among other things.

6. Wait and see with Russell. I watched his ex-wife's interview with WGN. She said things like, "Thank god they won Game 7 that night or else he would have come home in a bad mood!" and "The physical stuff wasn't every day or every month but this one time he broke my phone" or "I was going to post a photo of us on Instagram but he got mad at me because he wanted to post the photo first." Maybe he's just a really big asshole. I like his defense and his postseason hitting though.


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Oh and make Yu come up to Soulja Boy every at bat

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1. Don't trade Contreras. He'll be better next year.

2. Start Almora in CF.

3. Trade Schwarber. His value was never higher than at the start of the 2017 season but I think he showed enough defensively in the outfield this year for some NL teams to be interested and help raise the price a bit. Are the Phillies looking for another corner outfielder to pair with Hoskins? Miami's outfielders suck. Maybe Jeter wants a "young veteran" presence? Schwarber would have a lot of fun hitting at Chase Field. Jon Jay is walking and Souza blows.

4. Give Happ another year. It'd be great if he could work on not striking out so fucking much. I'd be cool with dealing him and Schwarber together if it gets you back something substantial.

5. Sign Harper. His OBP is ridiculous, among other things.

6. Wait and see with Russell. I watched his ex-wife's interview with WGN. She said things like, "Thank god they won Game 7 that night or else he would have come home in a bad mood!" and "The physical stuff wasn't every day or every month but this one time he broke my phone" or "I was going to post a photo of us on Instagram but he got mad at me because he wanted to post the photo first." Maybe he's just a really big asshole. I like his defense and his postseason hitting though.



Agreed. We have to get stronger arms, I can't stand having a bunch of soft tossers.. I want guys who can hit 96 plus with movement. I was watching the Yanks- A's last night.. They have 8 or 9 guys combined better than any bullpen we have.

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Cub fans (and probably Theo himself) still retain a bloated perspective of what Schwarber is as a player.

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Cub fans (and probably Theo himself) still retain a bloated perspective of what Schwarber is as a player.


I got the hint yesterday for Schwarber and a few others that is over.

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
1. Don't trade Contreras. He'll be better next year.

2. Start Almora in CF.

3. Trade Schwarber. His value was never higher than at the start of the 2017 season but I think he showed enough defensively in the outfield this year for some NL teams to be interested and help raise the price a bit. Are the Phillies looking for another corner outfielder to pair with Hoskins? Miami's outfielders suck. Maybe Jeter wants a "young veteran" presence? Schwarber would have a lot of fun hitting at Chase Field. Jon Jay is walking and Souza blows.

4. Give Happ another year. It'd be great if he could work on not striking out so fucking much. I'd be cool with dealing him and Schwarber together if it gets you back something substantial.

5. Sign Harper. His OBP is ridiculous, among other things.

6. Wait and see with Russell. I watched his ex-wife's interview with WGN. She said things like, "Thank god they won Game 7 that night or else he would have come home in a bad mood!" and "The physical stuff wasn't every day or every month but this one time he broke my phone" or "I was going to post a photo of us on Instagram but he got mad at me because he wanted to post the photo first." Maybe he's just a really big asshole. I like his defense and his postseason hitting though.



Agreed. We have to get stronger arms, I can't stand having a bunch of soft tossers.. I want guys who can hit 96 plus with movement. I was watching the Yanks- A's last night.. They have 8 or 9 guys combined better than any bullpen we have.


Yep. Forgot about some new bullpen arms :lol:


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