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Ryne Sandberg was passed over as Chicago Cubs manager last fall, but the Hall of Fame second baseman said he won't rule out a return to his former team if the position opens up in the future.


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"I just want to [manage] at the major league level so wherever that comes I would listen," Sandberg said Wednesday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000.


The Cubs chose Mike Quade, who was 24-13 as interim manager after taking over for Lou Piniella last season, over fan favorite Sandberg, who was the Pacific Coast League Manager of the Year for the Triple-A Iowa Cubs.


After losing out to Quade, Sandberg left the Cubs to join the organization that drafted him, the Philadelphia Phillies, as manager of their Triple-A affiliate, the LeHigh Valley Iron Pigs.


"I had my fingers crossed last year," Sandberg said about the Cubs job. "I feel like I'm doing what I need to do for an opportunity, and that's basically what I'm doing. I like what I'm doing now, it's very gratifying to me, but I'm also gaining experience to hopefully coach or manage at the major league level. Now it's really coming down to getting that opportunity and being ready for it."


Sandberg said he is surprised by the struggles of the Cubs, who have the second-worst record in baseball at 37-55.


"I'm not surprised at the young talent that has gone up there like Darwin Barney and Starlin Castro and there's other players on their way," Sandberg said. "I'm surprised at the struggles [the Cubs] have had. To watch that from a distance, it's there but they still have the second half. They can still rebound."


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While managing at the major league level is his ultimate goal, Sandberg has enjoyed his time with the Iron Pigs, who entered the All-Star break with the best first-half record in team history at 53-47 and in first place in the International League North.


And apparently the fans enjoy having him there as well -- Sandberg said LeHigh Valley is the top draw in the minor leagues, averaging more than 10,000 fans a game.


"It's been a great experience to see a different side of things," Sandberg said. "What I can say about the Phillies is it's very family-oriented and it's also an organization from top to bottom. They get everybody included. Everybody feels important. There's tremendous communication up and down the lines and really everybody is on the same page and has the same goals and that is to win a World Series at the major league level. That's the goal. That's what everybody talks about."


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quade the "all-star coach" will be here for years and years :lol: his bald head will live in infamy when he leads the cubs to a championship. maybe he will one day hire ryno to be his 3rd base coach. :D

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IF Sandberg is even offered the job Ricketts needs to make a public apology to the fans for taking 4 years to evaluate the situation.

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IF Sandberg is even offered the job Ricketts needs to make a public apology to the fans for taking 4 years to evaluate the situation.

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No way. He should be thanked for not letting Sandberg manage this pile of shit.

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IF Sandberg is even offered the job Ricketts needs to make a public apology to the fans for taking 4 years to evaluate the situation.

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After what the Blackhawks pulled off in repairing their relationships, it should be easy to make things right with Sandberg.

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Nothing a dump truck full of money can't solve. He'd be a fool to come here at this point though.

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Nothing a dump truck full of money can't solve. He'd be a fool to come here at this point though.


I disagree. This is a good spot for him

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Nothing a dump truck full of money can't solve. He'd be a fool to come here at this point though.


You are correct, this Cubs organization still has ZERO power in the minors and the speed is not great either.

So money will need to be spent and soon.

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If Hendry finally gets fired,maybe Steve Stone can come back too. :)

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Ugh. It's Lehigh, lowercase h, like the major thoroughfare on the northwest side. It's not from the Franglish for "The High." Proofread your goddamn copy.

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Interesting comments about how the Phillies run that organization, including the focus on winning the World Series. Sandberg is lucky he's with a real organization now.

He remains classy as always.

No surprise there.


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If Hendry finally gets fired,maybe Steve Stone can come back too. :)


Stone & Pat Hughes would be great together.

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If Hendry finally gets fired,maybe Steve Stone can come back too. :)


Stone & Pat Hughes would be great together.

Stone's not coming back.

But Stone and Hughes did the 2003 playoffs on the radio and it was very good.


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IF Sandberg is even offered the job Ricketts needs to make a public apology to the fans for taking 4 years to evaluate the situation.

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No way. He should be thanked for not letting Sandberg manage this pile of shit.

I will never ever understand the infatuation of Cub Fans with the Cubbie Alumni Association.

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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
bigfan wrote:
IF Sandberg is even offered the job Ricketts needs to make a public apology to the fans for taking 4 years to evaluate the situation.

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No way. He should be thanked for not letting Sandberg manage this pile of shit.

I will never ever understand the infatuation of Cub Fans with the Cubbie Alumni Association.

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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
I will never ever understand the infatuation of Cub Fans with the Cubbie Alumni Association.

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:lol: :lol: HOOTERVILLE!!!!!! :drunken: :drunken:

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I don't recall any posts from White Sox fans clamoring for all of these former Sox players to be on staff.
That is all Jerry Reinsdorf's doing.
Cubbie Fans want to BELIEVE St. Ryno is going to lead them to the Promised Land based upon absolutely nothing.
This is basically as idiotic as Brain Dead Bears Fans, led by Mike Murphy back when, pining for Samurai Mike Singletary to be the Head Coach because of his "fire and passion".

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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
I don't recall any posts from White Sox fans clamoring for all of these former Sox players to be on staff.
That is all Jerry Reinsdorf's doing.
Cubbie Fans want to BELIEVE St. Ryno is going to lead them to the Promised Land based upon absolutely nothing.
This is basically as idiotic as Brain Dead Bears Fans, led by Mike Murphy back when, pining for Samurai Mike Singletary to be the Head Coach because of his "fire and passion".


Bob, I have to disagree. Sandberg proved to be a good minor league manager by all accounts. That doesn't mean he would make a successful major league manager, but he deserves a chance. I recognize that very few Hall of Famers end up being successful as major league managers. But Sandberg coached in the minors for several years to learn the trade, much like a young player coming up through the system. I also think his no non-sense approach would serve this organization well after 3 terms with players' coaches. I believe he would hold players accountable for doing the little things right like hitting the cut off man, getting a bunt down, moving runners over, and playing hard. And finally I felt he knows the minor league talent having coached it and seen it first hand. That would be a benefit as these players bubble up to the big leagues. Just my opinion on the matter.

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Quade was given a poor roster to contend with. However, he has done even less with that roster than I had expected he would. I did not think he would continue to win at the pace he had during the last 5-6 weeks of 2010 but this is awful. Also, he has demonstrated on all too many occasions that he is just not a good manager. Too many poor choices like just this past Sunday when he left Ortiz in to face Walker to open the 5th....Walker hits a triple and THEN he pulls him. Anyone paying attention could see Ortiz didn't have much that day and had nothing left at that point. Too often he seems to want to please guys like Soriano rather than doing whats best for the team. Playing Soriano in the field rather than at DH in games in A.L. ballparks during the interleague schedule makes no sense. I think Sandberg deserves a chance to manage at the major league level. He's done everything asked to get that opportunity and done it very well. The GM and the manager should be given pink slips when this season concludes. Neither is the caliber needed to compete for a championship.

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Quade was given a poor roster to contend with. However, he has done even less with that roster than I had expected he would. I did not think he would continue to win at the pace he had during the last 5-6 weeks of 2010 but this is awful. Also, he has demonstrated on all too many occasions that he is just not a good manager. Too many poor choices like just this past Sunday when he left Ortiz in to face Walker to open the 5th....Walker hits a triple and THEN he pulls him. Anyone paying attention could see Ortiz didn't have much that day and had nothing left at that point. Too often he seems to want to please guys like Soriano rather than doing whats best for the team. Playing Soriano in the field rather than at DH in games in A.L. ballparks during the interleague schedule makes no sense. I think Sandberg deserves a chance to manage at the major league level. He's done everything asked to get that opportunity and done it very well. The GM and the manager should be given pink slips when this season concludes. Neither is the caliber needed to compete for a championship.


A smart businessman puts Ryno is the Managers job, not Quade. A smart Baseball Man puts Ryno in the Managers job, not Quade. The Cubs dont have a smart businessman or a smart Baseball Man.
My guess is that Rickett's probably regrets not doing just that.

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I'm not reading the whole thing, but I'm assuming that the smart businessman remark is due to the belief that people will show up to watch a guy manage a game.

I think that isn't really true, unless the manager is also starting at second base and hitting second.

No one will really pay to go see a guy come out of the dugout every day and wave his hat to the crowd.

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No one will really pay to go see a guy come out of the dugout every day and wave his hat to the crowd.

That is kinda true for most other teams. I'm not saying all the fans at Wrigley are/were there to see Ronnie or Ryno, but its certainly true for a sect of them.

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No one will really pay to go see a guy come out of the dugout every day and wave his hat to the crowd.

That is kinda true for most other teams. I'm not saying all the fans at Wrigley are/were there to see Ronnie or Ryno, but its certainly true for a sect of them.

I would hope at a bare minimum, when Ryno would argue, he would refer to the ump as a penis with a hat on.

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I'm not reading the whole thing, but I'm assuming that the smart businessman remark is due to the belief that people will show up to watch a guy manage a game.

I think that isn't really true, unless the manager is also starting at second base and hitting second.

No one will really pay to go see a guy come out of the dugout every day and wave his hat to the crowd.


I wouldn't go to a game to watch the manager. But I would go to a game to see a team that is well managed. It is really tough to watch the Cubs right now. Everytime I turn on the game, they have an error or two or three. I have seen games where multiple guys get thrown out even one game in the same inning. I see poor play all over the field. Tough for me to watch. I am a huge baseball fan, and I hate sloppy baseball.

So while Sandberg would not be a must see manager, but his teams would at least draw fans in if the team played better baseball.

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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
I don't recall any posts from White Sox fans clamoring for all of these former Sox players to be on staff.
That is all Jerry Reinsdorf's doing.
Cubbie Fans want to BELIEVE St. Ryno is going to lead them to the Promised Land based upon absolutely nothing.
This is basically as idiotic as Brain Dead Bears Fans, led by Mike Murphy back when, pining for Samurai Mike Singletary to be the Head Coach because of his "fire and passion".


Of course I'm a fan of both teams but it's not like Cub fans are wanting guy that have been complete failures. We're asking for guys that have had success in the majors or minor league managing. No one is calling for Dawson or Grace to manage. As RPB pointed out bringing back former guys isn't a bad thing.

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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
I don't recall any posts from White Sox fans clamoring for all of these former Sox players to be on staff.
That is all Jerry Reinsdorf's doing.
Cubbie Fans want to BELIEVE St. Ryno is going to lead them to the Promised Land based upon absolutely nothing.
This is basically as idiotic as Brain Dead Bears Fans, led by Mike Murphy back when, pining for Samurai Mike Singletary to be the Head Coach because of his "fire and passion".


Bob, I have to disagree. Sandberg proved to be a good minor league manager by all accounts. That doesn't mean he would make a successful major league manager, but he deserves a chance. I recognize that very few Hall of Famers end up being successful as major league managers. But Sandberg coached in the minors for several years to learn the trade, much like a young player coming up through the system. I also think his no non-sense approach would serve this organization well after 3 terms with players' coaches. I believe he would hold players accountable for doing the little things right like hitting the cut off man, getting a bunt down, moving runners over, and playing hard. And finally I felt he knows the minor league talent having coached it and seen it first hand. That would be a benefit as these players bubble up to the big leagues. Just my opinion on the matter.


They were clearly on their way to rebuilding too. These high priced guys won't be here.

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Quade was given a poor roster to contend with. However, he has done even less with that roster than I had expected he would. I did not think he would continue to win at the pace he had during the last 5-6 weeks of 2010 but this is awful. Also, he has demonstrated on all too many occasions that he is just not a good manager. Too many poor choices like just this past Sunday when he left Ortiz in to face Walker to open the 5th....Walker hits a triple and THEN he pulls him. Anyone paying attention could see Ortiz didn't have much that day and had nothing left at that point. Too often he seems to want to please guys like Soriano rather than doing whats best for the team. Playing Soriano in the field rather than at DH in games in A.L. ballparks during the interleague schedule makes no sense. I think Sandberg deserves a chance to manage at the major league level. He's done everything asked to get that opportunity and done it very well. The GM and the manager should be given pink slips when this season concludes. Neither is the caliber needed to compete for a championship.


A smart businessman puts Ryno is the Managers job, not Quade. A smart Baseball Man puts Ryno in the Managers job, not Quade. The Cubs dont have a smart businessman or a smart Baseball Man.
My guess is that Rickett's probably regrets not doing just that.


This may be a first but I agree with you. They could have easily just transitioned to rebuilding mold instead of acting like they were trying to win this year. This was more of Hendry trying to save his job than doing what's best for the organization.

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I could see why Sandberg wasnt hired last year despite 4 winning seasons in the minors, etc...

but look what he's done this year for the Phillies...he has them in first place, best record I think, and they suddenly lead the entire minors in attendance...This will solidify him as a solid major league candidate

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I could see why Sandberg wasnt hired last year despite 4 winning seasons in the minors, etc...

but look what he's done this year for the Phillies...he has them in first place, best record I think, and they suddenly lead the entire minors in attendance...This will solidify him as a solid major league candidate


I could see why if the Cubs had legit candidates ahead of him. But they had Mike Quade. And from what people have said about Brenly and his World Series, I wouldn't weant him either (i.e. not the brains of that operation). Sandberg was a good fit and gave the chance for the Cubs to go young and rebuild. That obviously didn't fit into Hendry's plans, so I understand why they hired Quade. But it was a mistake across the board, much like hiring Lou or Girardi.

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