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Kaplan said he talked to Brad Stephens and the Mayor has offered to give the Cubs 25 acres of land if they will relocate.

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The story? Nice "plant" by someone. I would just be curious to see how it would play out if the cubs ever seriously started negotiating with one of the burbs. IMO..the city would crap down their leg pretty fast and work with the cubs a hell of a lot better. Ricketts needs to grow a pair...play the game. He'd win either way.

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Yeah, go Tom Ricketts, go! Make a broke city even more broke so we can...um...have billboards blocking the side streets! You play that game, buddy! Play it to win! Subsidized commerce FTW!

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The story? Nice "plant" by someone. I would just be curious to see how it would play out if the cubs ever seriously started negotiating with one of the burbs. IMO..the city would crap down their leg pretty fast and work with the cubs a hell of a lot better. Ricketts needs to grow a pair...play the game. He'd win either way.


Bingo. Some good points in the article by the Mayor. Ricketts needs to realize that Cub fans wouldn't be against the team moving. He needs to shove this right up Tunney's ass.

Too bad Kaplan got this story. He's in all his douchey glory today. I bet it's killing him that the Hawks are preempting his shitty show tonight.


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This is nothing but a roundabout brag from Kaplan that he talked with Stevens. His saying he would give 25 acres to the Cubs is like me saying I would give my left nut to be with Kate Upton. Kaplan runs with it because he needs some way to show off a connection.

Also notice that Stevens never says the property would be given.

I imagine the Ricketts moving to Rosemont ending in a similar way to the owner of that bar in Goodfellas taking on Paul Cicero as a partner. "Hey Tommy, I wants to introduce yous to your new general manger, my little sister's oldest son Petey"

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Are there 25 acres left in Rosemont? I thought the city used the rest of its remaining space on a softball field for Jennie Finch and a lifestyle mall that sold its naming rights to a bank. Maybe the Cubs could play inside the convention center. The low ceiling (for a baseball stadium) would make for interesting ground rules.

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The story? Nice "plant" by someone. I would just be curious to see how it would play out if the cubs ever seriously started negotiating with one of the burbs. IMO..the city would crap down their leg pretty fast and work with the cubs a hell of a lot better. Ricketts needs to grow a pair...play the game. He'd win either way.


Bingo. Some good points in the article by the Mayor. Ricketts needs to realize that Cub fans wouldn't be against the team moving. He needs to shove this right up Tunney's ass.

Too bad Kaplan got this story. He's in all his douchey glory today. I bet it's killing him that the Hawks are preempting his shitty show tonight.


The negotiations have not reached this point yet.

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This is nothing but a roundabout brag from Kaplan that he talked with Stevens. His saying he would give 25 acres to the Cubs is like me saying I would give my left nut to be with Kate Upton. Kaplan runs with it because he needs some way to show off a connection.

Also notice that Stevens never says the property would be given.

I imagine the Ricketts moving to Rosemont ending in a similar way to the owner of that bar in Goodfellas taking on Paul Cicero as a partner. "Hey Tommy, I wants to introduce yous to your new general manger, my little sister's oldest son Petey"


"Mr. Stevens we have a new contract for food sales coming up and this would be a great opportunity to roll out the product from the Ricketts bison farm"

"Oh, sure Tommy. I don't know from bison but I do know that the meat needs to be driven by my teamster friends and cousin Paulie's security company will ensure it makes it from the Des Plaines border to the park without being hesited."

"Tommy before you go, I wanted to tell you to lose that Banks guy from coming around the park. Us Rosemonters are simple people with traditional values and, you know, we ain't lookin for anyone outsiders bringing their friends into our community"

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Bradley Stephens looks like every meathead son who inherited The Family Business. This type can also be seen at car dealerships and Greek restaurants.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
Ricketts needs to realize that Cub fans wouldn't be against the team moving.


Maybe a lot wouldn't. But there aren't going to be any Japanese tourists booking trips to see Ricketts Field at MB Financial Park in Rosemont.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
Ricketts needs to realize that Cub fans wouldn't be against the team moving.


Maybe a lot wouldn't. But there aren't going to be any Japanese tourists booking trips to see Ricketts Field at MB Financial Park in Rosemont.


The fact it's 10 minutes from the airport might help.

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If no deal is reached by Ricketts own Opening Day deadline, then he'd be a total idiot not to explore this, and other, options to relocate.

Fuck that museum. Get a brand spankin' new park!


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I like the idea for leverage. Fuck kap though. Worst in the business.

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From what I heard, the public reaction on 'GN today was 10-1 for the Cubs moving. If Ricketts turns this down or doesn't explore other options, this "new" Wrigley better be amazing or he has blown the 1 chance he had at getting it right.

I really want them to move.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
From what I heard, the public reaction on 'GN today was 10-1 for the Cubs moving. If Ricketts turns this down or doesn't explore other options, this "new" Wrigley better be amazing or he has blown the 1 chance he had at getting it right.

I really want them to move.


How does the public's opinion help? Most of those people being polled probably buy about a pair of tickets every three years. It's no different from the public lamenting the closing of a mom and pop store when it would still be open if they had shopped there instead of Walmart. It's just claptrap. After a year or two in Ricketts Stadium at Giancana Place the Cubs will draw like any losing team: 18,000-20,000 a game.

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Doesn't help per se but it shows that he shouldn't be worried about being the guy who left Wrigley.


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Not sure where the border is, but all along the East side of River Road are the forrest preserves.

Rosemont has an uncanny ability to annex property when needed.

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How bad a net worth hit do you take if the Cubs move?

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I don't believe for a second a move will happen. Just an attempt to play hard ball to get what they want for the current park

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I don't believe for a second a move will happen. Just an attempt to play hard ball to get what they want for the current park


That's Ricketts' problem. Nobody else believes it either.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
From what I heard, the public reaction on 'GN today was 10-1 for the Cubs moving. If Ricketts turns this down or doesn't explore other options, this "new" Wrigley better be amazing or he has blown the 1 chance he had at getting it right.

I really want them to move.


How does the public's opinion help? Most of those people being polled probably buy about a pair of tickets every three years. It's no different from the public lamenting the closing of a mom and pop store when it would still be open if they had shopped there instead of Walmart. It's just claptrap. After a year or two in Ricketts Stadium at Giancana Place the Cubs will draw like any losing team: 18,000-20,000 a game.


Please don't use Momo's name in jest. He has eyes & ears everywhere,just sayin'.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
From what I heard, the public reaction on 'GN today was 10-1 for the Cubs moving. If Ricketts turns this down or doesn't explore other options, this "new" Wrigley better be amazing or he has blown the 1 chance he had at getting it right.

I really want them to move.


How does the public's opinion help? Most of those people being polled probably buy about a pair of tickets every three years. It's no different from the public lamenting the closing of a mom and pop store when it would still be open if they had shopped there instead of Walmart. It's just claptrap. After a year or two in Ricketts Stadium at Giancana Place the Cubs will draw like any losing team: 18,000-20,000 a game.


Please don't use Momo's name in jest. He has eyes & ears everywhere,just sayin'.


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How bad a net worth hit do you take if the Cubs move?


If you get a park for free, or virtually zero cost, on an annual basis and you get to retain almost all the revenue generated by that park it is a huge bonus to your bottom line.

Wrigley upkeep is estimated at $10 mill a year, plus capital improvements, they own very few parking lots, they are limited in concessions and many people eat and drink elsewhere, before and after the game.

Your gross income if such a move occurred would most likely increase, but this would require winning on a constant basis.

Plus , you get to sell Wrigley. Land alone for development is worth about $50 mill or more based on what zoning would allow.

But, pretty stupid for Ricketts to pull this one a week before his community meeting with a group of people who dont care if he leaves tomorrow and for the most part at these community meetings, their is a small but vocal group who seem to have the aldermans ear and they treat the Cubs like they are nuisance to the area.

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bigfan, I think Darko was asking how your own vast holdings would be affected by such a move. Sounds to me like perfect spot for CSFMB Towers at Wrigleyville


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bigfan, I think Darko was asking how your own vast holdings would be affected by such a move. Sounds to me like perfect spot for CSFMB Towers at Wrigleyville
Wild Hare is opening up again. That will certainly offset any loss of value if the Cubs leave.

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Rebuild Wrigley in its current location.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Rebuild Wrigley in its current location.



I have never understood why they don't do this.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Rebuild Wrigley in its current location.



I have never understood why they don't do this.

Cause it's a landmark and you can't destroy it without city permission which is the whole point of this back and forth between Ricketts and Tunney

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pittmike wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Rebuild Wrigley in its current location.



I have never understood why they don't do this.

They'd have to play in the Cell or Miller Park for a year. But other than that I dont see the issue


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