For some reason you can't make a poll question in the cubs section.

Do they have the same,more or less wins?

I am assuming:
Jorr vote is same
Pasta I'm sure will vote more


I vote less.

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10 to 12 less.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Who?

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Manager really doesnt matter who manages a team, because eventually their stuff will wear thin on the players and then he will be fired, so doesnt really matter.


In other new, you will eventually die, so no reason to go to work today

BTW, White Sox want more latin speaking managers in the dugout...pretty funny for a team that always prided themselves all their latin culture for the last 10 years

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

This would be ridiculed in baseball circles.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

...but 5 is OK in baseball circles?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I don't vote. We have no way of knowing. That's my entire point. But if I were taking a guess, I'd say it would be +/- a game or two.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

I would like to see Maddon manage the 3 shit rosters Sveum and Renteria were given and see what magic he could create with it!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Well, 5-6 is largely considered to be the amount of games affected by a baseball manager. I see you know more about the topic than most here. But I don't buy that either. Maybe it would be 10 or 12 or even 20. Maybe 20 of the 25 players would have wanted to kill Renteria. But maybe they would have won the division with Ricky Raw Deal too. We just don't know and none of you can actually tell me what makes a good manager. It's just bullshit and good fodder for message boards.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

It would be a very strange nativity scene.

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There is absolutely no way this would have happened.

I don't think they would have won 97, but they still would likely be playing on Wednesday night if Theo's second original choice was still here.

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What player that was on the 2014 Cubs roster hit 25 HR's this season?




















Answer: Luis Valbuena hammered 25 for the Astro's.....It would have been nice to have him at 2nd this season but Fowler did an overall great job for the Cubs in CF.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Seriously, jimmy, you're not really lamenting about guys the Cubs don't have, are you? This is one of the best Cub teams in my lifetime- and yours.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Just this guy. He is the "Jim Osborne" of the Cubs. He get's let go right before they become great. After all those crap teams he was on where he was one of the better players (in 2014).


Osborne (a pretty good DT for the bears) retired in 1984.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Valbuena sucks ass

Im not so sure about that though.

What about specific changes?

Like a pitching coach (Duncan, Cooper) elevating a pitcher from mediocre to dominant. That could mean +5-6 games right there.

Renteria still speaks Spanish so the results would have been excellent

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

It's a celebratory time jimmy. Don't be that guy!

Yeah, a lot of guys said that about Phil Jackson when he was winning the titles he amassed. Maddon had a couple rough seasons with Tampa his first 2 years. Then they slowly brought more talented players up through the system and he did a great job developing and managing young talent there and the team improved dramatically. He was the right guy for this job. He just didn't have to endure the bad years, because they had talent ready to ascend to the majors. I would say he was good for an additional 8-10 wins.

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Go Cubs!!!!