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I’ve heard it’s happening too. But sort of in the same way a lot of things are “happening” but then never seem to actually get off the ground. Feels a lot like the Bears stadium where they make all these moves that seem indicative of something about to happen, but are actually just the easy part. The big differences are the Sox obviously want to do this as clandestinely as possible and I’m not sure MLB is keen on it after the Oakland fiasco.

We’ll see. I’ve basically come to terms with it. I still hope it doesn’t happen but until the Sox get some sort of definitive long-term commitment I’m assuming it will. Chicago can’t even do mega projects anymore, the grift now isn’t even in finishing the job it’s in the endless planning stage. For the Sox to get a new Chicago stadium in the next ten years seems impossible.


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They can't take 2005 from us.

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except when ESPN forgets to mention it

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It's possible, under the current system, to have success without spending like the Yankees or Dodgers. Teams like the Cubs, Phillies, etc. do spend enough to win and aren't cheap. Teams like the Rays, Pirates, Cleveland and now the White Sox are trying to win without spending in free agency or at least on upper end talent, but have built farm systems that are producing players. So...yes, can work. Doesn't mean that it will work, and doesn't mean that it will work beyond a season or two of before injuries, payroll increasing, etc.


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The current system won't be current much longer. I still think there's a lockout coming in order to get a cost-certainty model like the NHL. Reinsdorf will survive in that MLB if he can live to see it.

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The current system won't be current much longer. I still think there's a lockout coming in order to get a cost-certainty model like the NHL. Reinsdorf will survive in that MLB if he can live to see it.

And Reinsdorf won't vote for any CBA deal unless it includes that he gets the right to move to Nashville or sell to a group that moves to Nashville.

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Brick wrote:
They can't take 2005 from us.


i need to get my dvd converted to a digital format before DVD players disappear


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Curious Hair wrote:
The current system won't be current much longer. I still think there's a lockout coming in order to get a cost-certainty model like the NHL. Reinsdorf will survive in that MLB if he can live to see it.


I hope there is a very long lock-out that results in a salary cap/salary floor. The sport sucks right now.


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And people won't care. Many will pretend to care and wax nostalgically but that will fail. Baseball will come back and be worse off with the current format and rules. Too many games and it's boring as fuck.

120 games would solve a lot just on its own.

The old records can still be sacred with the right PR. Make it like the old testament and the new testament.


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They’ll introduce some sort of cap or contract limitations but grandfather in existing deals and the Dodgers will win the next 10 World Series.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
They’ll introduce some sort of cap or contract limitations but grandfather in existing deals and the Dodgers will win the next 10 World Series.


They would probably have to torch an entire season and break the union to get a cap.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
They’ll introduce some sort of cap or contract limitations but grandfather in existing deals and the Dodgers will win the next 10 World Series.


They would probably have to torch an entire season and break the union to get a cap.

I wouldn’t care at this point.

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Warren Newson wrote:
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They’ll introduce some sort of cap or contract limitations but grandfather in existing deals and the Dodgers will win the next 10 World Series.


They would probably have to torch an entire season and break the union to get a cap.


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I would assume there would also have to be a salary floor if there is a cap right?

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I think they have another year after this year to drive the game into the ground. Hopefully, they lose plenty of money and audience.


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I would assume there would also have to be a salary floor if there is a cap right?

That's what I would expect, yeah. Floor, ceiling, guaranteed contracts, but there's never going to be the hard cap that the NHL has.

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And people won't care. Many will pretend to care and wax nostalgically but that will fail. Baseball will come back and be worse off with the current format and rules. Too many games and it's boring as fuck.

120 games would solve a lot just on its own.




no it wouldn't. That would be dumb. I want 162.


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BD wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
The current system won't be current much longer. I still think there's a lockout coming in order to get a cost-certainty model like the NHL. Reinsdorf will survive in that MLB if he can live to see it.


I hope there is a very long lock-out that results in a salary cap/salary floor. The sport sucks right now.



no, we dont want salary caps.

Baseball has proven that big spenders dont always win.


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the White Sox are trying to win without spending in free agency or at least on upper end talent, but have built farm systems that are producing players.



the White Sox are producing talent?? :lol: WTF??


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Having Robert on the team feels like being in the middle of divorce and having to still live with each other. I know he has to rehab his production but he's the odd piece in this lineup.

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He’s a bust. Has played more than 100 games only once in his career and had an OPS+ of 87 last year.

Sox will probably sign him to a long term deal.

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Estes Hood wrote:
BD wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
The current system won't be current much longer. I still think there's a lockout coming in order to get a cost-certainty model like the NHL. Reinsdorf will survive in that MLB if he can live to see it.


I hope there is a very long lock-out that results in a salary cap/salary floor. The sport sucks right now.



no, we dont want salary caps.

Baseball has proven that big spenders dont always win.
There would probably be NBA-like exceptions similar to Bird rights and the mid-level exemptions.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Just heard from a client who was a partner in the Sox. Reinsdorf recently bought him out and said Nashville is a done deal.


Ironically, one of the reasons Reinsdorf and Einhorn were able to buy the Sox in 1981 was because Veeck's preferred buyer, Edward DeBartolo, was seen as an absentee owner that could move the franchise while Reinsdorf and Einhorn were considered local and were preferred by baseball hierarchy. There were probably other reasons for the Reinsdorf preference as well but the local ownership was what was talked about.


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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Just heard from a client who was a partner in the Sox. Reinsdorf recently bought him out and said Nashville is a done deal.


Ironically, one of the reasons Reinsdorf and Einhorn were able to buy the Sox in 1981 was because Veeck's preferred buyer, Edward DeBartolo, was seen as an absentee owner that could move the franchise while Reinsdorf and Einhorn were considered local and were preferred by baseball hierarchy. There were probably other reasons for the Reinsdorf preference as well but the local ownership was what was talked about.


"other reasons"

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Just heard from a client who was a partner in the Sox. Reinsdorf recently bought him out and said Nashville is a done deal.


Ironically, one of the reasons Reinsdorf and Einhorn were able to buy the Sox in 1981 was because Veeck's preferred buyer, Edward DeBartolo, was seen as an absentee owner that could move the franchise while Reinsdorf and Einhorn were considered local and were preferred by baseball hierarchy. There were probably other reasons for the Reinsdorf preference as well but the local ownership was what was talked about.


"other reasons"

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:lol:

I thought this was the real reason.

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The DeBartolos probably wouldn't have been able to hang onto the Sox through the '90s. They had to sell the Pittsburgh Penguins to get some liquidity and the Pens had just won the Stanley Cup.

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